2024

[DCHawk1]

Yes.

[jfish26]

In the last few days:

"Jeb Bush got us into the Middle East."

"Joe Biden is going to get us into World War II"

"Windmills are making whales batty."

"I'm up in the polls against Obama."

Trump confused, says Jeb Bush got us into the middle east.

All of the age and capacity stuff is a distraction - a very intentional distraction - from the central point here: the country would be substantially better off with a literal vegetable in the big chair than Trump.

From Max Boot, far from a dyed-in-the-wool commie:

Opinion If you want to save democracy in 2024, Biden is the only viable choice

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... democracy/

The prospect of another Trump term is the greatest foreseeable disaster that can befall the United States and the world. Trump is likely to be 10 times more dangerous this time around, because he won’t allow any adults in the White House to act as a check on his worst instincts — no more Jim Mattis as defense secretary, John F. Kelly as chief of staff or H.R. McMaster as national security adviser. In a second term, Trump is likely to only appoint advisers as unhinged as he is.

We can only speculate what this will mean, but the likelihood is that Trump will cut off aid to Ukraine, pull out of NATO, eviscerate the civil service and the military’s top ranks, and appoint an attorney general who will prosecute his enemies. For a start. He was eager to do all of those things in his first term but was dissuaded or blocked by the “deep state.” He’s unlikely to allow that to happen again. He has become even more radical and more authoritarian since leaving office, and he now has much more experience in getting what he wants out of the government.

The consequences will be dire enough domestically, imperiling U.S. democracy, but they will be even worse internationally. Among other alarming consequences, a Trump presidency could allow Russian leader Vladimir Putin to defeat Ukraine and remake the 21st-century global order in favor of tyrants and aggressors.

So how do we stop Trump? Biden is a feeble vessel at best, but he’s the only realistic option we have. It’s true that he is 80 years old (and would be 82 at the start of a new term), and he often stumbles rhetorically and sometimes physically. But his successful performance in office belies his doddering image.

He has managed to pass big, bipartisan bills, including infrastructure legislation that Trump only talked about. He has been even more impressive internationally, assembling a large coalition to oppose Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine and another coalition in East Asia to deter China from aggression of its own. The economy — the ultimate barometer of a president’s performance — has been doing much better than expected, with low unemployment, declining inflation and no recession in sight. That’s a record any president can be proud of. Yet the polls haven’t been giving Biden the credit he is due, possibly because perceptions of the economy still lag the reality.

[...]

We had better hope that popular perceptions of the economy improve … and that a likely Trump conviction might dissuade swing voters from supporting him … and that a third-party candidate won’t split the anti-Trump vote … and that Biden doesn’t experience any Mitch McConnell-like freeze-ups or other health scares. Otherwise, come November 2024, we might be facing the end of the world as we know it.

You can see why I’m not feeling good about the future — not when the fate of the world depends on the vitality and vigor of an octogenarian who looks his age. But it does.

[JKLivin]

In the last few days:

"Jeb Bush got us into the Middle East."

"Joe Biden is going to get us into World War II"

"Windmills are making whales batty."

"I'm up in the polls against Obama."

Trump confused, says Jeb Bush got us into the middle east.

All of the age and capacity stuff is a distraction - a very intentional distraction - from the central point here: the country would be substantially better off with a literal vegetable in the big chair than Trump.

From Max Boot, far from a dyed-in-the-wool commie:

Opinion If you want to save democracy in 2024, Biden is the only viable choice

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... democracy/

The prospect of another Trump term is the greatest foreseeable disaster that can befall the United States and the world. Trump is likely to be 10 times more dangerous this time around, because he won’t allow any adults in the White House to act as a check on his worst instincts — no more Jim Mattis as defense secretary, John F. Kelly as chief of staff or H.R. McMaster as national security adviser. In a second term, Trump is likely to only appoint advisers as unhinged as he is.

We can only speculate what this will mean, but the likelihood is that Trump will cut off aid to Ukraine, pull out of NATO, eviscerate the civil service and the military’s top ranks, and appoint an attorney general who will prosecute his enemies. For a start. He was eager to do all of those things in his first term but was dissuaded or blocked by the “deep state.” He’s unlikely to allow that to happen again. He has become even more radical and more authoritarian since leaving office, and he now has much more experience in getting what he wants out of the government.

The consequences will be dire enough domestically, imperiling U.S. democracy, but they will be even worse internationally. Among other alarming consequences, a Trump presidency could allow Russian leader Vladimir Putin to defeat Ukraine and remake the 21st-century global order in favor of tyrants and aggressors.

So how do we stop Trump? Biden is a feeble vessel at best, but he’s the only realistic option we have. It’s true that he is 80 years old (and would be 82 at the start of a new term), and he often stumbles rhetorically and sometimes physically. But his successful performance in office belies his doddering image.

He has managed to pass big, bipartisan bills, including infrastructure legislation that Trump only talked about. He has been even more impressive internationally, assembling a large coalition to oppose Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine and another coalition in East Asia to deter China from aggression of its own. The economy — the ultimate barometer of a president’s performance — has been doing much better than expected, with low unemployment, declining inflation and no recession in sight. That’s a record any president can be proud of. Yet the polls haven’t been giving Biden the credit he is due, possibly because perceptions of the economy still lag the reality.

[...]

We had better hope that popular perceptions of the economy improve … and that a likely Trump conviction might dissuade swing voters from supporting him … and that a third-party candidate won’t split the anti-Trump vote … and that Biden doesn’t experience any Mitch McConnell-like freeze-ups or other health scares. Otherwise, come November 2024, we might be facing the end of the world as we know it.

You can see why I’m not feeling good about the future — not when the fate of the world depends on the vitality and vigor of an octogenarian who looks his age. But it does.

Horseshit.

[DCHawk1]

From Max Boot, far from a dyed-in-the-wool commie:

Umm....

[jfish26]

Ideologically, anyway!

[Shirley]

From Max Boot, far from a dyed-in-the-wool commie:

Umm....

Ideologically, anyway!

Dear diary, I swear, I considered replying to jfish's "Max Boot" post not long after he made it with:

jfish26, in my experience it is problematic to be so bold as to characterize someone popularly thought of as "conservative"*, (or a variation thereof), as so here, lest you risk being corrected by the only person I know of to possess the membership list, DC.


*Names that come to mind other than Max Boot, include, but are not limited to, David Frum, and, if memory serves, David French.

[DCHawk1]

From Max Boot, far from a dyed-in-the-wool commie:

Umm....

Ideologically, anyway!

Dear diary, I swear, I considered replying to jfish's "Max Boot" post not long after he made it with:

jfish26, in my experience it is problematic to be so bold as to characterize someone popularly thought of as "conservative"*, (or a variation thereof), as so here, lest you risk being corrected by the only person I know of to possess the membership list, DC.


*Names that come to mind other than Max Boot, include, but are not limited to, David Frum, and, if memory serves, David French.

Sorry. Just noting that Boot is a neoconservative, and referring to the universally known (or nearly universally known, I guess) fact that Irving Kristol, Mrs. Irving Kristol (Gertrude Himmelfarb), Daniel Bell, and the rest of the early neoconservatives had been Trotskyists.

Sorry to confuse you.

[Shirley]

My computer times out over and over and over and over before posting...

I'm out for the night.

[DCHawk1]

But by all means, set me straight.


Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld come to mind.

A. Story of my life.
B. The two surviving members of that trio fully support your position on Ukraine. Indeed, American policy in Ukraine is very much a reinterpretation of the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Congrats.

[Shirley]

Today In: The enemy of my enemy...

or

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?'
Barbara Bush

But by all means, set me straight.


Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld come to mind.

A. Story of my life.
B. The two surviving members of that trio fully support your position on Ukraine. Indeed, American policy in Ukraine is very much a reinterpretation of the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Congrats.

[Shirley]

Too many in the media have repeated the GOP talking point that they are now the party of the working class. However, when it comes to representing and fighting for the economic interests of working class Americans, Biden's record is far superior to his Republican opponents

[Shirley]

This is the GOP.

"Does anyone see a VP in that group? I don't think so" - Donald Trump

[KUTradition]

kerry lake, come on down

[jfish26]

This is the GOP.

"Does anyone see a VP in that group? I don't think so" - Donald Trump

It would be impolite to speculate on what that says about his feelings about Haley.

[Shirley]

kerry lake, come on down

^^^

Although, she seems a little crazy, even for TFG pos.

[Shirley]

Color me not surprised:

DeSantis apparently walked up to the Univision press section after the debate last night, realized where he was, and turned around to avoid the interview. He cowered from speaking to a Spanish speaking network.

[Shirley]

VoteVets promised to keep up the heat and we’re not even CLOSE to done yet – not until Tuberville stops hurting our military and national security

[Overlander]

A large portion of the GOP is more interested in a reset that fixing anything.

They literally want to burn it to the ground and build it back to their liking.

“In His Eyes”

[Shirley]

One of these things isn't like the other

[randylahey]

One of these things isn't like the other

The amount of bias, inaccuracies, and omissions in that video this woman made is staggering

I might actually laugh out loud at the thought that of you seeing this as inspiring