Dumbfuck in charge

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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:50 am Is it true that the US is currently under 31 national emergencies? All enacted since the 70s.....10 by Obama?

Saw it on a meme. So only a 50% chance it's true. Figured the smarty pants around here would know....
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https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854638 ... ium=social

arrests for illegal border crossings at 46-year low
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twocoach wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:05 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:50 am Is it true that the US is currently under 31 national emergencies? All enacted since the 70s.....10 by Obama?

Saw it on a meme. So only a 50% chance it's true. Figured the smarty pants around here would know....
www.google.com
Put me back on ignore.
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TraditionKU wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:58 am https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854638 ... ium=social

arrests for illegal border crossings at 46-year low
We giving trump credit for this?
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:50 am Is it true that the US is currently under 31 national emergencies? All enacted since the 70s.....10 by Obama?

Saw it on a meme. So only a 50% chance it's true. Figured the smarty pants around here would know....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa ... encies_Act
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:26 am
TraditionKU wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:58 am https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854638 ... ium=social

arrests for illegal border crossings at 46-year low
We giving trump credit for this?
Theoretically, incentives matter.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:48 am The bad news: Trump is still Trump.

The good news: a judicial stop to this will set a hard precedent.
Didn't he pretty much allude to this already? I assume he's waiting for this to get to the Supreme Court and then rolling the bones?
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chiknbut wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:24 am
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:48 am The bad news: Trump is still Trump.

The good news: a judicial stop to this will set a hard precedent.
Didn't he pretty much allude to this already? I assume he's waiting for this to get to the Supreme Court and then rolling the bones?
I've been trying to make sense of this all week. What I think is going on with Trump, Coulter, etc is this: Trump doesn't care about the wall or about immigration. He likes the issue of immigration more than he does the idea of fixing the problem. This is why Coulter broke bad on him. She sees this and thinks it's shitty.

What Trump really wants is to get reelected. And someone on his staff -- maybe someone with a career's-worth of polling experience -- convinced him that if he doesn't get his funding, has to declare a state of emergency, and then is handed a defeat by the courts, ESPECIALLY the Supreme Court, then he gets to carry ALL of his top issues with him into the 2020 campaign. And the best part (for him) is that ALL the issues are now amplified because "I tried. God knows I tried. But the 'swamp' is still protecting itself. I need MORE time, MORE power, and MORE judicial nominees. Otherwise, ALL is lost."

It's pretty clever as electoral strategy, typically shitty as social, economic, and public policy.
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I don't read polls, but doesn't seem like that strategy meshes well with what happened in mid-terms.
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RussianHawk wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:28 pm I don't read polls, but doesn't seem like that strategy meshes well with what happened in mid-terms.
Midterms and presidential elections are different. Rove set the precedent in '04 and Plouffe, Axelrod, and Messina followed suit in '12, running exclusively to their base and winning on turnout strategy alone.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:02 pm
chiknbut wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:24 am
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:48 am The bad news: Trump is still Trump.

The good news: a judicial stop to this will set a hard precedent.
Didn't he pretty much allude to this already? I assume he's waiting for this to get to the Supreme Court and then rolling the bones?
I've been trying to make sense of this all week. What I think is going on with Trump, Coulter, etc is this: Trump doesn't care about the wall or about immigration. He likes the issue of immigration more than he does the idea of fixing the problem. This is why Coulter broke bad on him. She sees this and thinks it's shitty.

What Trump really wants is to get reelected. And someone on his staff -- maybe someone with a career's-worth of polling experience -- convinced him that if he doesn't get his funding, has to declare a state of emergency, and then is handed a defeat by the courts, ESPECIALLY the Supreme Court, then he gets to carry ALL of his top issues with him into the 2020 campaign. And the best part (for him) is that ALL the issues are now amplified because "I tried. God knows I tried. But the 'swamp' is still protecting itself. I need MORE time, MORE power, and MORE judicial nominees. Otherwise, ALL is lost."

It's pretty clever as electoral strategy, typically shitty as social, economic, and public policy.
My wife and I had this exact same discussion a few days ago.
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It's unreal how quickly we have fallen out of favor with our allies. If Trump wins again and maintains course I'm not sure what the European US relationship will look like. Luckily the Pacific relationships seem to be maintaining somewhat normal.
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Much of Europe has taken advanatge of us for far too long...even if he pisses them off for another term they'll be begging us to come back once we get someone new in office.
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JFC
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I wish people would read history.
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dolomite wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:12 am
Silence IS golden
Incredible pearl of wisdom right there.
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Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Leawood wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:12 pm I wish people would read history.
Anyway that we can just put history in one meme?
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