We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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Guns Are Now the Leading Cause of Accidental Death Among American Kids

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/p ... un-deaths/
So, who is it that's depressing us today? Whose turn is it? Hey, American Academy of Pediatrics, you're up, folks. From the New York Times:
But according to an analysis published on Thursday, the rate of firearm fatalities among children under 18 increased by 87 percent from 2011 through 2021 in the United States. The death rate attributable to car accidents fell by almost half, leaving firearm injuries the top cause of accidental death in children. The finding underscores additional data showing that firearm injuries are now the leading cause of death among Americans under 20, after excluding deaths of infants born prematurely or with congenital abnormalities. Some 2,590 children and teenagers under the age of 18 died of firearm injuries in 2021, up from 1,311 in 2011, according to the study, which was published in the journal Pediatrics. In other industrialized countries, guns are not even among the top three causes of death for children.
Looked at from space, this is a view of a country gone mad. Looked at from the ground, this is a view of a country without decency or shame. Firearms are now the leading cause of accidental death among the country's children. Deaths among our children from gunfire increased 87 percent over a decade during which political power was pretty much evenly divided between the two major parties, a decade bookended by one Supreme Court decision that established an individual right to arm yourself like a heavy weapons platoon and another that demolished a state's ability to restrict that ability on behalf of its citizens. And, this November, the Court will weigh in on a law that would disarm anyone subject to a restraining order based on domestic violence. A federal law to that effect was struck down by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, the funhouse mirror of the federal judiciary.

How are these even damn arguments? Of course, people forbidden to contact the spouse they've beaten shouldn't have a gun. Of course, a state has the right to protect its citizens from lethal weaponry. Of course, the Constitution doesn't bless the idea of an unlimited right to an individual arsenal. No Constitution devised by thinking human beings would permit that. No Constitution devised by thinking human beings would prevent its government from acting in the face of statistics like these. Nor would it envision a national legislature paralyzed by money and intimidation. The Constitution isn't a suicide pact, but it's not supposed to be a homicide pact either.
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the logic disconnect between gun control and abortion is hilariously sad
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 1:21 pm the logic disconnect between gun control and abortion is hilariously sad
Or the border, or the death penalty. Or for that matter, healthcare or any number of things.

It leads one to conclude that it’s not life that matters.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:22 pm this shit is dangerous

https://www.newsweek.com/matt-gaetz-for ... on-1819355
I have read a few columns suggesting that several of the House bomb-throwers are apprehensive of possible charges in some of the speculated yet-to-come Trump actions. And thus there is some urgency to get into positions of power/insulation.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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“Hoisted by their own petard” comes to mind.
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:14 pm wait, what?

https://www.businessinsider.com/rnc-mcd ... 023-10?amp
smh

The first thing I did was look up and confirm you'd linked The Onion.

They have no shame. They are utterly bereft of any self-respect. Zero. None.
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The guy they encouraged to run runs over those who encouraged him to run over there.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Today In: Mitt Unleashed!

"Don't it always seem to go
that you don't know what you've got
'till it's gone..."

The Utah Senator and one-time GOP presidential nominee today says he is no longer at home within a Republican Party dominated by Donald Trump. Mitt Romney talks with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell about why he feels a large portion of his party doesn't believe in the Constitution, and about his reaction to the violence of January 6. He also discusses the example set by his father, George Romney, a former governor of Michigan; and revelations from McKay Coppins' new biography, "Romney: A Reckoning."

Mitt Romney on today's Republican Party
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It is worth noting that Romney is saying all of this at personal risk.

It should not be lost on anyone that around 100 House Rs were opposed to Jordan but afraid to say it out loud. I do not think the calculus there was solely political.
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Shirley wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:00 am Today In: Mitt Unleashed!

"Don't it always seem to go
that you don't know what you've got
'till it's gone..."

The Utah Senator and one-time GOP presidential nominee today says he is no longer at home within a Republican Party dominated by Donald Trump. Mitt Romney talks with CBS News' Norah O'Donnell about why he feels a large portion of his party doesn't believe in the Constitution, and about his reaction to the violence of January 6. He also discusses the example set by his father, George Romney, a former governor of Michigan; and revelations from McKay Coppins' new biography, "Romney: A Reckoning."

Mitt Romney on today's Republican Party
we watched; was a good interview (a good episode all around, really)

i’m torn on mittens, generally. he’s currently fighting land conservation efforts in wyoming so that resource extraction remains a possibility. to me, that runs counter to “stewardship” responsibility he has as part of mormonism
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jfish26 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:04 am It is worth noting that Romney is saying all of this at personal risk.

It should not be lost on anyone that around 100 House Rs were opposed to Jordan but afraid to say it out loud. I do not think the calculus there was solely political.
I've thought about mentioning that, too. Greater than four times as many rep reps were against Jordan when they could vote secretly, than were willing to publicly. And gee, who can blame them because... they don't want to incur Trump's wrath and:

- Be primaried

- Be treated just like democrats, public servants, poll workers, etc., etc., who are threatened with violence constantly.

First they came for the democrats, but I wasn't a democrat, so I said nothing, much?

Co. rep Representative Ken Buck got death threats and an eviction notice from the landlord of his office in Co., because he didn't vote for Jordan.

Don Bacon, rep Rep from Nebraska, a former Brigadier Gen in the Air Force, threatening texts to his wife!

We're living in the Twilight Zone.
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In Soviet Russia….letter goes to widow.

How far are we from this happening?
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Jailing Trump will be a great next step to corralling the crazies. We will have no more of this, young man.
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what in the absolute fuck is wrong with (certain parts of) this country?

Lubbock County becomes latest to approve “abortion travel ban”

Lubbock is now the fourth, and largest, county to pass the ordinance which would punish people through civil lawsuits for aiding pregnant women seeking abortions outside of Texas.

Three county commissioners approved an ordinance Monday that would bar pregnant Texas women from traveling through Lubbock County for an abortion in another state...
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KUTradition wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:58 pm what in the absolute fuck is wrong with (certain parts of) this country?

Lubbock County becomes latest to approve “abortion travel ban”

Lubbock is now the fourth, and largest, county to pass the ordinance which would punish people through civil lawsuits for aiding pregnant women seeking abortions outside of Texas.

Three county commissioners approved an ordinance Monday that would bar pregnant Texas women from traveling through Lubbock County for an abortion in another state...
The amount of hatred it must take to spend this much goddamn time, money and physical/mental/emotional energy fussing about what other people do with their bodies is incomprehensible to me.
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:38 pm
KUTradition wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:58 pm what in the absolute fuck is wrong with (certain parts of) this country?

Lubbock County becomes latest to approve “abortion travel ban”

Lubbock is now the fourth, and largest, county to pass the ordinance which would punish people through civil lawsuits for aiding pregnant women seeking abortions outside of Texas.

Three county commissioners approved an ordinance Monday that would bar pregnant Texas women from traveling through Lubbock County for an abortion in another state...
The amount of hatred it must take to spend this much goddamn time, money and physical/mental/emotional energy fussing about what other people do with their bodies is incomprehensible to me.
Shouldn't this be in "The Republican War On Women" thread?



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