Another mass shooting

[twocoach]

The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

[randylahey]

By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

Restricting access to military style assault rifles and high capacity magazines is intended to try to reduce mass shooting incidents where large amounts of people uninvolved in an incident are targeted to be murdered.
Restricting access to any weapons, be they handguns or long guns, by people with known mental health issues or documented domestic violence cases/situations is intended to cut down on the total volume of deaths by guns, including those by handguns.

This just isn't that complicated to understand. Putting seatbelts in cars wasn't about controlling the public. Nor are speed limits. Not are drunk driving restrictions, etc... it is an effort to address a problem where citizens are proving unable to control or avoid the problems themselves.

Handguns are responsible for significantly more gun deaths and more mass shootings. Fact check it. Significantly more.

It's not about logic or safety. It's about control. Just consider that.

If our government cared about our safety, we wouldn't sell food with preservatives that are banned in other countries

[randylahey]

The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

Do you not know how this country was made?

[KUTradition]

is there a bigger pos?

(maybe the NRA, maybe)

[twocoach]

By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

Restricting access to military style assault rifles and high capacity magazines is intended to try to reduce mass shooting incidents where large amounts of people uninvolved in an incident are targeted to be murdered.
Restricting access to any weapons, be they handguns or long guns, by people with known mental health issues or documented domestic violence cases/situations is intended to cut down on the total volume of deaths by guns, including those by handguns.

This just isn't that complicated to understand. Putting seatbelts in cars wasn't about controlling the public. Nor are speed limits. Not are drunk driving restrictions, etc... it is an effort to address a problem where citizens are proving unable to control or avoid the problems themselves.

Handguns are responsible for significantly more gun deaths and more mass shootings. Fact check it. Significantly more.

It's not about logic or safety. It's about control. Just consider that.

If our government cared about our safety, we wouldn't sell food with preservatives that are banned in other countries

You completely ignored what I wrote.

Do you think that laws that restricted access to weapons, including handguns, for mentally ill people or people with documented domestic violence charges or restraining orders would reduce the number of gun deaths by handguns?

YES

Do you think that laws that required better safety training and storage for all gun owners would reduce the number of accidental deaths/suicides by all guns, including handguns?

ALSO YES

[twocoach]

The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

Do you not know how this country was made?

Do you not realize that the capabilities of our current US military are a bit more advanced than that of the British Army in 17 fucking 76 ?

[jfish26]

Now you're just backpedaling. AR is short for armalite. Not assault rifle. No gun is actually named assault rifle. Your "in the name" comment was wrong. That's just a generic term used to scare people. Propaganda

Over and over again, your leading argument in support of unfettered access to assault rifles is your opinion that people should not call them assault rifles.

[KUTradition]

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

Do you not know how this country was made?

Do you not realize that the capabilities of our current US military are a bit more advanced than that of the British Army in 17 fucking 76 ?

nope

randi’s with their ARs are all that’s keeping us from a vlad or kim attack

it’s so obvious lol

[jfish26]

The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

The Pacific and Atlantic oceans say hello.

[twocoach]

Do you not know how this country was made?

Do you not realize that the capabilities of our current US military are a bit more advanced than that of the British Army in 17 fucking 76 ?

nope

randi’s with their ARs are all that’s keeping us from a vlad or kim attack

it’s so obvious lol

Meanwhile some 19 year old Army kids are sitting in a room in the desert plucking off invaders using drones like a video game while MICH's militia is fumbling around trying to figure how to pull their tactical gear on over their beer bellies.

[twocoach]

The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

The Pacific and Atlantic oceans say hello.

I almost shot Dr. Pepper out of my nose laughing at this so thanks for that.

[MICHHAWK]

we could solve almost all of our most pressing issues/problems i.e. gun violence, southern border lunacy

if we cut in half. uncles budget for war mongoring around the world. just cut it in half. and use those funds here.

[twocoach]

we could solve almost all of our most pressing issues/problems i.e. gun violence, southern border lunacy

if we cut in half. uncles budget for war mongoring around the world. just cut it in half. and use those funds here.

What's sad is that you A) believe that's true and B) believe that funding is what is preventing GOP politicians from voting for gun legislation.

[MICHHAWK]

i went with gun violence and southern border lunacy because they are the top two topics of interest today in the pols forum.

[twocoach]

i went with gun violence and southern border lunacy because they are the top two topics of interest today in the pols forum.

Next time you should put some actual thought into your post instead of just trolling to argue.

[MICHHAWK]

this is a college basketball chat forum. i put exactly the amount of thought and care into it. that this site deserves.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Now you're just backpedaling. AR is short for armalite. Not assault rifle. No gun is actually named assault rifle. Your "in the name" comment was wrong. That's just a generic term used to scare people. Propaganda

JFC you're a moron.
AR is not short for "armalite". It's short for ArmaLite RIFLE.
Some guns are classified as being assault rifles.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

JFC!

You're a moron!

Let me ask you a question. I walk in to your house. You have 50 guests in your house. I want to shoot and kill you and all 50 of your guests.
I have a handgun with 12 bullets/rounds and I have a "higher powered gun" with 100 bullets/rounds.
Which do you think you and your 50 guests stand a better chance of surviving?

[twocoach]

By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

JFC!

You're a moron!

Let me ask you a question. I walk in to your house. You have 50 guests in your house. I want to shoot and kill you and all 50 of your guests.
I have a handgun with 12 bullets/rounds and I have a "higher powered gun" with 100 bullets/rounds.
Which do you think you and your 50 guests stand a better chance of surviving?

Dontcha know? You're just brainwashed for pretending to care if those people live or die as they are all gonna die eventually anyways...

[jfish26]

By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

JFC!

You're a moron!

Let me ask you a question. I walk in to your house. You have 50 guests in your house. I want to shoot and kill you and all 50 of your guests.
I have a handgun with 12 bullets/rounds and I have a "higher powered gun" with 100 bullets/rounds.
Which do you think you and your 50 guests stand a better chance of surviving?

Depends, how would you rate your mental health? Are there good guys with guns? Why didn't they harden the entrances? Don't you know there are retired veterans who need jobs?

There are so many questions and variables, I think we should just do nothing.