Vick

[Deleted User 75]

Exhibit A of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ of why I wouldn't take one iota of advice from you on arguing a point:

"He's a 1,000pt scorer.
I stand by the statement that he's helped us more than he's hurt us. Even relative to average scholarship players. We've had a lot of guys not do shit, or transfer, or get forced out, etc."

Not sure your point there.

I said and stand by that he has helped us more than he hurt us...that's over his entire career...not just this year....and probably when he started hurting more than helping is when he got kicked off the team.

[Deleted User 62]

Exhibit A of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ of why I wouldn't take one iota of advice from you on arguing a point:

"He's a 1,000pt scorer.
I stand by the statement that he's helped us more than he's hurt us. Even relative to average scholarship players. We've had a lot of guys not do shit, or transfer, or get forced out, etc."

when he got kicked off the team.

Just stop

[Deleted User 75]

Exhibit A of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ of why I wouldn't take one iota of advice from you on arguing a point:

"He's a 1,000pt scorer.
I stand by the statement that he's helped us more than he's hurt us. Even relative to average scholarship players. We've had a lot of guys not do shit, or transfer, or get forced out, etc."

when he got kicked off the team.

Just stop

Suck on it slow Plano.

[Deleted User 62]

when he got kicked off the team.

Just stop

Suck on it slow Plano.

Pretty manly retort.

[Deleted User 75]

Just stop

Suck on it slow Plano.

Pretty manly retort.

Seems a little closed minded of you to think a man letting another man suck on his penis slowly excludes him from being "manly"...but you're a Texan...so there's that.

[Lonestarjayhawk]

illy going illy...

[Deleted User 75]

I'm not the one who said men who let men suck on their penis can't be manly.


Also lonestar, keep the commentary out of the GTS threads. Tia.

[twocoach]

The university concluded that. Not me. Talk to them about it.

How come Landen Lucas never got accused of that stuff? Evan Manning? Mitch Lightfoot?

Sorry that I don't believe there was some conspiracy against Vick that lead to the university deeming it was more than likely true it happened.

We have no idea whether they were or not because those investigations are SUPPOSED to be confidential.

I can safely say, with complete confidence, that Landen or Evan never kicked a girl in the face. Same with Mitch. Same with the majority of our players over the years. The highest of character guys aren't accused of doing things like this because they don't put themselves in these situations.

You're making giant speculative assumptions and back filling them as some sort of factual knowledge. You didnt know Vick wasn't a high character guy until the incident was uncovered by a newspaper digging for dirt. He was just a player with great hops and an infectious smile until the KC Star dug up that old report so spare me your faux confidence.

You assume you know who is a high character guy. Ultimately, we dont really know.

[pdub]

Remember when you were in elementary school, say kindergarten or 1st grade, and you got a report like excellent, satisfactory etc on how you did that week, or maybe a star if you did well or simply just behaved?

I don't think Illy got many of those stars.

[TDub]

Pdub is the reason we need a "play hard chart" then maybe we could quantify, on paper -in boxscore form, the subtleties of basketball that seem lost. Perhaps then we can resume the conversation.

[pdub]

call bruce up.
he knows the play hard chart well.
typically didn't get his guys wins but at least he was happy with them.

[Deleted User 75]

Remember when you were in elementary school, say kindergarten or 1st grade, and you got a report like excellent, satisfactory etc on how you did that week, or maybe a star if you did well or simply just behaved?

I don't think Illy got many of those stars.

Swing and a miss.

I was well behaved and did wonderful in school until about 8th grade. Then the fun started!

[NDballer13]

call bruce up.
he knows the play hard chart well.
typically didn't get his guys wins but at least he was happy with them.

I mean, it's got a less talented team in first place.

[pdub]

"wonderful in school"

wonderfully

[Deleted User 75]

"wonderful in school"

wonderfully

Exactly.

They taught that in 8th grade I bet!

[TDub]

call bruce up.
he knows the play hard chart well.
typically didn't get his guys wins but at least he was happy with them.

Im not the one who has dug a hole so deep that i have to ignore basic basketball knowledge to continue to defend my island

[Deleted User 75]

Also....a big LOL to the grammar police. More like mall cop.

"TOP FLIGHT SECURITY OF THE WORLD CRAIG!!!!"

[Deleted User 62]

Remember when you were in elementary school, say kindergarten or 1st grade, and you got a report like excellent, satisfactory etc on how you did that week, or maybe a star if you did well or simply just behaved?

I don't think Illy got many of those stars.

Swing and a miss.

I was well behaved and did wonderful in school until about 8th grade. Then the fun started!

Penis in the mouth?

[Deleted User 75]

Remember when you were in elementary school, say kindergarten or 1st grade, and you got a report like excellent, satisfactory etc on how you did that week, or maybe a star if you did well or simply just behaved?

I don't think Illy got many of those stars.

Swing and a miss.

I was well behaved and did wonderful in school until about 8th grade. Then the fun started!

Penis in the mouth?

Only occasionally. Never looked em in the eye so it's not gay.

[Deleted User 89]

I don't view shooting people as a joke out of a window with a bb gun is even nearly as bad as violently kicking a girl in the face...but I'm only speaking for myself. Maybe you guys think that's super bad. But they weren't trying to hurt anyone. It wasn't violent. It was just immature.

except for the whole permanent blindness (if not worse) possibility

and now the kick to the face was "violent"? i don't know, wasn't there, but it could just as easily be a case similar to Bragg's, where the girl initiated the physicality (maybe while vick was laying on his back on a couch or bed) and he resorted to using his legs to get her off of him...a leg slips and she catches a foot to the face.