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So B12 title out of grasp.
I don’t care about the B12 tournament except for helping our seeding.
We won’t do anything in the tournament without McCullar so you sit him til he’s 100 percent or til we play our 13/14 seed.
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i kinda figured that was the plan all along
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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randylahey wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 pm Harris was terrible at running anything that looked like good offense in the second half. So much for the benefit of having such a great PG.
Harris wasn't the problem.
We just held an opponent to under 40% shooting for the game and lost at home in a game we led by 12 in the 2nd half. No, he wasn't THE problem. Our offense was the problem and the PG runs the offense.
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pdub wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:33 pm So B12 title out of grasp.
I don’t care about the B12 tournament except for helping our seeding.
We won’t do anything in the tournament without McCullar so you sit him til he’s 100 percent or til we play our 13/14 seed.
Self's comments don't make it sound like it is the coaches holding McCullar out.
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Hunter celebrating like he won the title everytimenhe does even the most basic things is really starting to grind my gears.....particularly when hes soft as satin
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twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:39 pm
randylahey wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 pm Harris was terrible at running anything that looked like good offense in the second half. So much for the benefit of having such a great PG.
Harris wasn't the problem.
We just held an opponent to under 40% shooting for the game and lost at home in a game we led by 12 in the 2nd half. No, he wasn't THE problem. Our offense was the problem and the PG runs the offense.
12 pts on 4/9 shooting. 6 assists. Don't know what you expect from him. He had some turnovers early but was steady and tried to put us in our usual spots.

Not dajuans fault that hunter was missing free throws and everybody was missing shots
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twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:41 pm
pdub wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:33 pm So B12 title out of grasp.
I don’t care about the B12 tournament except for helping our seeding.
We won’t do anything in the tournament without McCullar so you sit him til he’s 100 percent or til we play our 13/14 seed.
Self's comments don't make it sound like it is the coaches holding McCullar out.
Watching this texas/Texas tech game with our boy Fran commentating, and he said he thinks mccullar could be done for the year

He didn't elaborate, and doesn't necessarily know what he's talking about, but he did say it in on live TV
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twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:41 pm
pdub wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:33 pm So B12 title out of grasp.
I don’t care about the B12 tournament except for helping our seeding.
We won’t do anything in the tournament without McCullar so you sit him til he’s 100 percent or til we play our 13/14 seed.
Self's comments don't make it sound like it is the coaches holding McCullar out.
What specifically makes you believe that?

I heard him say they are preparing as if Kevin will be out indefinitely.

If there’s actual truth to that ( he’s holding himself out to protect draft status ) boy would this true full throttle NIL season be exactly what I expected.
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so, the refs didn't lost this game for us, we should've won goin away.

However, BYU coach dickface gets a Technical and complains about fouls at the 7:50 mark.

BYU doesn't get called for another foul until 25 seconds left in the game. Kansas has 9. Take away 2 for fouling on on purpose and it's still 7 in that time frame.
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we woulda missed the free throws anyway
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:00 pm we woulda missed the free throws anyway
changes the whole momentum of the game though, and strategy.

again, the refs didn't cost us the game. Just a comment
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I don't like this "mccullar is holding himself out" conversation. I don't think it's true. In the recent games he did play in, you could clearly tell he was playing injured and playing through pain
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There's... A lot wrong with this team.

It's a testament to Bill that they'll be a top 4 seed.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:39 pm
randylahey wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 pm Harris was terrible at running anything that looked like good offense in the second half. So much for the benefit of having such a great PG.
Harris wasn't the problem.
We just held an opponent to under 40% shooting for the game and lost at home in a game we led by 12 in the 2nd half. No, he wasn't THE problem. Our offense was the problem and the PG runs the offense.
He ran the offense fine.

He's had a lot of bad games this year. This was not one of them.

Sadly he was probably our best player tonight.
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They had 3 players with 4 fouls and none of them fouled out. Can’t remember the last time I saw that. WTF? Aside from KJ, this team is soft, they may not win another game this season. Can’t shoot the three, can’t guard the three.
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I'll take that bet.
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I don't have ESPN+, sometimes that pisses me off.

Tonight I was OK with that.
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Jayhawkerr wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:22 pm They had 3 players with 4 fouls and none of them fouled out. Can’t remember the last time I saw that. WTF? Aside from KJ, this team is soft, they may not win another game this season. Can’t shoot the three, can’t guard the three.
Hate to say it... But when it comes to the defensive glass, KJ is soft too. He just doesn't go after defensive boards at all.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:39 pm
randylahey wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 pm Harris was terrible at running anything that looked like good offense in the second half. So much for the benefit of having such a great PG.
Harris wasn't the problem.
We just held an opponent to under 40% shooting for the game and lost at home in a game we led by 12 in the 2nd half. No, he wasn't THE problem. Our offense was the problem and the PG runs the offense.
LOL

it's always DHs fault.

Unbelievable.

We don't have our best player. We were outscored by 30 from 3pt.

I know Self likes to defend inside out, but you can't get outscored by 30 from 3pt and win very often.
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mjl2 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:12 pm There's... A lot wrong with this team.

It's a testament to Bill that they'll be a top 4 seed.
Yep, I agree there is a lot wrong with this team and that's/it's "a testament to Bill Self".
They will be.... "A top 4 seed"?
Meaning? A 1, 2, 3, or 4 seed - or one of the top 4 teams?
Sorry, valid excuses or not, I'm not giving Self praise for a loaded pre-season #1 team - being 21-7 and being 9-6 in conference including a 29 point loss to Texas Tech, a loss at home to BYU, and loses to 3 garbage teams - Kansas State, West Virginia, and UCF.

When we rightfully blow Self for all the successes he's had, I feel if times are tough we should realize Self bears SOME responsibility - for the personnel he brought in and how they are performing. Good or bad.

Let's do a quick review on this team.
* Let's start with he has two players who are the two best players in a stacked conference. Not a team in the country that wouldn't love to have Dickinson and McCullar. Yes, McCullar has been injured but he played in 23 out of 28 games.
* He has a guy who last season was Pre-season 1st team Big 12, DPOY last season, and this season was a Pre-season Wooden top 50 player.
* He has a guy who was a 2 time first team CAA who is averaging less than 5 points a game this season.
* He has a McDonalds All-American - who is only averaging 4 points a game.
* He has a guy who was the Big 12 Most Improved Player last season. Top 50 player coming out of High School.
* He has Furphy (who last night went from super star in the 1st half to not much better than Gutter in the 2nd half) a guy who some "experts" feel will/would be a first round draft pick.

Post is perhaps deserving of a


but that's the reality of all of it in my eyes and brain.
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