Crimscores 2023

[DeletedUser]

If you were a 1 and done frehsman PG why would you come to KU? That's the 1 position we almost never have a freshman thrive in during their 1st year under Self.

[pdub]

"And at least one of those two hats (or maybe both) isn't fitting right in terms of freshman guards."

Hi, my name is Gradey Dick, I play(ish) for the Toronto Raptors now but played for you last season and was 2nd team AllB12. Did you already forget me?

[DeletedUser]

Yes. Probably have to distinguish between guard and point guard. It hasn't always been that way, but it has been like that in a few years in recent memory.

[jfish26]

"And at least one of those two hats (or maybe both) isn't fitting right in terms of freshman guards."

Hi, my name is Gradey Dick, I play(ish) for the Toronto Raptors now but played for you last season and was 2nd team AllB12. Did you already forget me?

In my head, I have Gradey as a wing.

[DeletedUser]

I consider Gradey a shooting guard.

[pdub]

He's both.
The small forward is kind of a mush position in most offenses now.

[jfish26]

He's off-ball.

Our problem has been with guys who are (or should be) on-ball.

[DeletedUser]

The top 1 and done PGs go to Kentucky. Calipari has a ton of success with them (indivudally, not team success necessarily)...UK focuses on individual success (draft position) a lot more than KU does.

Take a look around the NBA and there are a shitload of former Calipari PGs and SGs.


And yet Self and KU are way better at winning CBB games than Calipari and UK.

[pdub]

Elmarko was a top 5 PG in his class - even as high as 3rd as a 5 star depending on where you look.

[DeletedUser]

Elmarko was a top 5 PG in his class - even as high as 3rd as a 5 star depending on where you look.

Has to be one of our highest rated PG recruits in the Self era, right?

I think Elmarko will be really good if he stays at KU. But I don't like freshman PGs in a Bill Self offense.

[pdub]

Dotson was up there too.
Higher depending on which source.

Chalmers was considered a point and probably is also one of the highest ranked we've had I'd think.

But the highest would be Selby. Dude was no. 1 overall not just no. 1 PG.

[jfish26]

Dotson was up there too.
Higher depending on which source.

Chalmers was considered a point and probably is also one of the highest ranked we've had I'd think.

But the highest would be Selby. Dude was no. 1 overall not just no. 1 PG.

(And of course he was really not very good at all - just gets bailed out, reputation-wise, by a hot-shooting start.)

[pdub]

Final 2024 Crimscores:

Diamond Boi Dickinson .772
Kevin Draft Stock McCullar .707
KJ Adams .549
Dajuan Harris .433
Johnny Furphy .376
Nicolas Timberlake .194
Elmarko Jackson .191
Parker Braun .167
Jamari McDowell .109

[pdub]

Diamond Boi finishes 4th in Crimscore under Bill Self all time.
McCullar 9th all time.

The 6th man Crimscore ( Timberlake .194 ) is the 2nd lowest ever under Self 2nd only to Bryce Thompson 2021 ( .186 ).

Diamond Boi's blocks per 40 comes in 44th under Bill Self for players over 7 minutes a game.

[pdub]

Dajuan's Crimscore decreases from 2023 to 2024 - .471 to .433.

McCullar has the biggest jump from .507 to .707.
KJ jumps from .473 to .549.

[pdub]

McCullar is the 4th player since the 3 point line was established to average 18+ points and 4+ assists at Kansas for a season ( he is the only one from that group to average 5+ rebounds making him the only player to do so - 18+ ppg, 4+ apg, 5+ rpg ).

Can you name the other 3?

[DeletedUser]

Frank Sherron Devonte?

[ousdahl]

Without looking I think Devon did it

[pdub]

Teamwork.
Vonte averaged just over 17 ppg in 2018.

[MICHHAWK]

i don't know what a crimscore is. but isn't it just some made up bull$#!t somebody made up.