I promise I don’t mean to misrepresent.KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 8:56 am there ya go again, deliberately misrepresenting because you’re incapable
can’t believe i’m actually humoring you, but…
define “kids”
i put at least some blame on anyone who did, and most certainly those who still do, support hamas…that would certainly include 15, 16, 17 year old “kids”, and probably those a bit younger
at that age i knew right from wrong, i knew the kkk was a piece of shit organization, and i knew what terrorism was
i blame trump supporters for the level of power/influence he has, and any damage he does to our country
i blame anyone who deep down knows better, but chooses to do nothing for the sake of “power”
But fwiw, I was 17 when W announced we were invading Iraq. I was skeptical of the move at the time, even critical, tho I also recall voting for him in our mock elections in high school social studies class. I guess that’s to say, I hope you don’t blame my 17 year old self for the Iraq war.
Bear in mind tho, you and I both grew up in decidedly better situation than pretty much any kid in Gaza.
One big reason I quit much of my social media feed, and quit the Israel/Palestine thread (besides just being annoying) is, I was so tempted to oblige mjl’s call to “document everything,” and even post it in that thread.
Of course, the shit I saw documented didn’t support mjl’s views. It still haunts me.
There was one little kid, maybe 7 years old or so, digging thru rubble while holding an arm. Like a severed arm, Saving Private Ryan style, but instead of Spielberg it was real life. And a fucking 7 year old kid! It was apparently his brother’s arm, and he looked determined to find the rest of his bro in that rubble, as if he was gonna put him back together.
And that’s maybe not even the most fucked up shit I saw.
There was another girl, again maybe 7 or so, who was bleeding from the eyes. Like both eyes and both eyeballs and both entire eye sockets full of blood. Apparently it’s a symptom of crush trauma. Israeli forces rolled a tank over her house, over and over and over again, with her entire family trapped inside. They rolled until they no longer heard screams. She was the only one who was recovered alive, but who knows if she made it.
And even THAT might not be the most fucked up shit I saw!
The most fucked up goes to the Israeli soldiers and the shit they’d shamelessly post on social media. They’d see a Gazan family, shoot a bazooka at them, and then cheer and high 5 each other. They’re posting mocking reels like, “look at me with water to drink and food to eat!” They’re posting themselves going thru Gaza residences, waving around Palestinian women’s undergarments like some sorta checkered flag. They’ll congratulate each other for shooting down civilians like they might as well be at the satellite shack playing big buck hunter.
That’s all to say, they’re documenting their war crimes in real time!
I just couldn’t take it any more.
And, I’m also very cognizant of the fact that maybe that shit isn’t even real. Maybe it’s from some other conflict yet, or maybe it’s just AI generated clips from a Russian troll farm.
Point is, I’m pretty sure there really is more than enough evidence to indicate entire generations of Palestinians have grown up in apartheid conditions. Gaza has been operated like an open air prison, for fuck’s sake! They don’t even control their own food or water or energy or anything!
When the Nazis did this to the Jewish people, it was overwhelmingly recognized as not OK.
So how do we shrug it off when Israelis are doing it to Palestinians?
Or would you like to articulate why some 15yo growing up in an open air prison should recognize the folks who confined him and his fam and whole community there and has systemically deprived and brutalized all of them, are actually the good guys?
