We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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Shirley wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 2:08 pm
japhy wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 1:34 pm The first two minutes are stunning! Her refusal to answer the question is impressive. South Dakota must be soooo proud of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THiQN7psSBo
As card carrying members of the He-Man, Woman Haters Club, aren't we supposed to like women who have no shame?

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Shameless, sure. But she appears to be soulless.

That, I can not abide.
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Definitely "pretty obvious"....
Republican National Committee (RNC) Co-chair Lara Trump said that it is “pretty obvious” that her father-in-law, former President Trump, accepts presidential election results.

Trump made the comment when she was asked if recent remarks by former and current leaders of the Democratic Party, like former President Obama and President Biden that Trump, will not accept the results of the 2024 general election, are all “coordinated.”

“I think, isn’t it all coordinated?” she told host Eric Bolling during her Thursday appearance on Newsmax’s show “The Balance,” highlighted by Mediaite.

“Isn’t all of this stuff coming from one place? It’s pretty obvious that Donald Trump does accept election results even despite the fact that it was a very questionable election in 2020 because Joe Biden is, unfortunately, sitting in the Oval Office today,” she said.

And if he didn't accept the election results, Joe Biden wouldn't be sitting in the Oval Office?

The Party of the Rubes has gotten blatherpandering down to an art form.
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Where has the craftsmanship, the nuance, the attention to detail, the pride gone?

They're not even bothering to sugarcoat anything anymore. It's just straight, uncut, weapons-grade lies.
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how about a National Registry of Pregnant Women?

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I couldn't believe this was real at first, but apparently Melania did call Stormy a "hooker".

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Is this where we should thank the pious "Family Values" Republican party for selling themselves and our country out by promoting this walking, talking piece of white trash, Donald Trump, for president, because they're willing to do anything, anything, for power?

Pro tip, Melania: Your problem is with the guy you married in order to immigrate to the US, who then screwed around on you numerous times, not Stormy Daniels. This isn't a fight you want to get into with a woman as savvy, confident, and comfortable in her skin as Stormy.

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Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
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Evil walks among us.
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May 12, 2024

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/may-12-2024
I write a lot about how the Biden-Harris administration is working to restore the principles of the period between 1933 and 1981, when members of both political parties widely shared the belief that the government should regulate business, provide a basic social safety net, promote infrastructure, and protect civil rights. And I write about how that so-called liberal consensus broke down as extremists used the Reconstruction-era image of the American cowboy—who, according to myth, wanted nothing from the government but to be left alone—to stand against what they insisted was creeping socialism that stole tax dollars from hardworking white men in order to give handouts to lazy minorities and women.

But five major stories over the past several days made me realize that I’ve never written about how Trump and his loyalists have distorted the cowboy image until it has become a poisonous caricature of the values its recent defenders have claimed to champion.

The cowboy myth originated during the Reconstruction era as a response to the idea that a government that defended Black rights was “socialist” and that the tax dollars required to pay bureaucrats and army officers would break hardworking white men.

This weekend, on Saturday, May 11, Paul Kiel of ProPublica and Russ Buettner of the New York Times teamed up to deliver a deep investigation into what Trump was talking about when he insisted that he must break tradition and refuse to release his tax returns when he ran for office in 2016 and 2020, citing an audit.

The New York Times had already reported that one of the reasons the Internal Revenue Service was auditing Trump’s taxes was that, beginning in 2010, he began to claim a $72.9 million tax refund because of huge losses from his failing casinos.

Kiel and Buettner followed the convoluted web of Trump’s finances to find another issue with his tax history. They concluded that Trump’s Chicago skyscraper, his last major construction project, was “a vast money loser.” He claimed losses as high as $651 million on it in 2008. But then he appears to have moved ownership of the building in 2010 from one entity to a new one—the authors describe it as “like moving coins from one pocket to another”—and used that move to claim another $168 million in losses, thereby double-dipping.

The experts the authors consulted said that if he loses the audit battle, Trump could owe the IRS more than $100 million. University of Baltimore law professor Walter Schwidetzky, who is an expert on partnership taxation, told the authors: “I think he ripped off the tax system.”

The cowboy myth emphasized dominance over the Indigenous Americans and Mexicans allegedly attacking white settlers from the East. On Friday an impressive piece of reporting from Jude Joffe-Block at NPR untangled the origins of a story pushed by Republicans that Democrats were encouraging asylum seekers to vote illegally for President Joe Biden in 2024, revealing that the story was entirely made up.

The story broke on X, formerly Twitter, on April 15, when the investigative arm of the right-wing Heritage Foundation, which promises to provide “aggressive oversight” of the Biden administration, posted photos of what it claimed were flyers from inside portable toilets at a migrant camp in Matamoros, Mexico, that said in broken Spanish: “Reminder to vote for President Biden when you are in the United States. We need another four years of his term to stay open.” The tweet thread got more than 9 million views and was boosted by Elon Musk, X’s owner.

But the story was fabricated. The flyer used the name of a small organization that helps asylum seekers, along with the name of the woman who runs the organization. She is a U.S. citizen and told Joffe-Block that her organization has “never encouraged people to vote for anyone.” Indeed, it has never come up because everyone knows noncitizens are not eligible to vote. The flyer had outdated phone numbers and addresses, and its Spanish was full of errors. Migrants who are staying at the encampment as they wait for their appointments to enter the U.S. say they have never seen such flyers, and no one has urged them to vote for Biden.

Digging showed that the flyer was “discovered” by the right-wing video site Muckraker, which specializes in “undercover” escapades. The founder of Muckraker, Anthony Rubin, and his brother, Joshua Rubin, had shown up at the organization’s headquarters in Matamoros asking to become volunteers for the organization; they and their conversation were captured on video, and signs point to the conclusion that they planted the flyers.

Nonetheless, Republicans ran with the story. Within 12 hours after the fake flyer appeared on X, Republican representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Dan Bishop (R-NC) brought posters of it to Congress, and Republicans made it a centerpiece of their insistence that Congress must pass a new law against noncitizen voting. Rather than being protected by modern-day cowboys, the woman who ran the organization that helps asylum seekers got death threats.

The cowboy image emphasized the masculinity of the independent men it championed, but the testimony of Stephanie Clifford, the adult film actress also known as Stormy Daniels, in Trump’s criminal trial for falsifying business records to cover up his payments to Clifford to keep her story of their sexual encounter secret before the 2016 election, turns Trump’s aggressive dominance into sad weakness. Covering Clifford’s testimony, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times yesterday wrote that “Trump came across as a loser in her account—a narcissist, cheater, sad Hugh Hefner wannabe, trading his satin pajamas for a dress shirt and trousers (and, later, boxers) as soon as Stormy mocked him.”

In the literature of the cowboy myth, the young champion of the underdog is eventually supposed to settle down and take care of his family, who adore him. But the news of the past week has caricatured that shift, too. On Wednesday, May 8, the Republican Party of Florida announced that it had picked Trump’s youngest son, 18-year-old Barron, as one of the state’s at-large delegates to the Republican National Convention, along with Trump’s other sons, Eric and Donald Jr.; Don Jr.’s fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle; and Trump’s second daughter, Tiffany, and her husband.

On Friday, May 10, Trump’s current wife and Barron’s mother, former first lady Melania Trump, issued a statement saying: “While Barron is honored to have been chosen as a delegate by the Florida Republican Party, he regretfully declines to participate due to prior commitments.” It is hard not to interpret this extraordinary snub from his own wife and son as a chilly response to the past month of testimony about his extramarital escapades while Barron was an infant.

Finally, there was the eye-popping story broken by Josh Dawsey and Maxine Joselow in the Washington Post on Thursday, revealing that last month, at a private meeting with about two dozen top oil executives at Mar-a-Lago, Trump offered to reverse President Joe Biden’s environmental rules designed to combat climate change and to stop any new ones from being enacted in exchange for a $1 billion donation.

Trump has promised his supporters that he would be an outsider, using his knowledge of business to defend ordinary Americans against those elites who don’t care about them. Now he has been revealed as being willing to sell us out—to sell humanity out—for the bargain basement price of $1 billion (with about 8 billion people in the world, this would make us each worth about 12 and a half cents).

Chief White House ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush administration Richard Painter wrote: “This is called bribery. It’s a felony.” He followed up with “Even a candidate who loses can be prosecuted for bribery. That includes the former guy asking for a billion dollars in campaign cash from oil companies in exchange for rolling back environmental laws.”

The cowboy myth was always a political image, designed to undermine the idea of a government that worked for ordinary Americans. It was powerful after the Civil War but faded into the past in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s as Americans realized that their lives depended on government regulation and a basic social safety net. The American cowboy burst back into prominence with the advent of the Marlboro Man in 1954, the year of the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision, and the idea of an individual white man who worked hard, wanted nothing from the government but to be left alone, was a sex symbol, and protected his women became a central myth in the rise of politicians determined to overturn the liberal consensus.

Now it seems the myth has come full circle, with the party led by a man whose wife rejects him and whose lovers ridicule him, who makes up stories about dangerous “others,” cheats on his taxes, solicits bribes, and tries to sell out his followers for cash—the very caricature the mythological cowboy was invented to fight.
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How do you write that much about 1981 and cowboys without mentioning this horse’s ass?

(The one on the right)

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Incorporating the relevant context, this is /endthread stuff.
🚨NEWS — @SpeakerJohnson is expected at the courthouse in NYC this morning in support of former President Donald Trump.
https://x.com/jakesherman/status/179034 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
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Congrats to him on admitting to committing multiple felonies.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:12 am Incorporating the relevant context, this is /endthread stuff.
🚨NEWS — @SpeakerJohnson is expected at the courthouse in NYC this morning in support of former President Donald Trump.
https://x.com/jakesherman/status/179034 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
He's a Republican, why would we expect him to have a spine, or any principles?
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Shirley wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:31 am
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:12 am Incorporating the relevant context, this is /endthread stuff.
🚨NEWS — @SpeakerJohnson is expected at the courthouse in NYC this morning in support of former President Donald Trump.
https://x.com/jakesherman/status/179034 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
He's a Republican, why would we expect him to have a spine, or any principles?
Does attending this particular trial cause a notification on his son’s accountability partner app?
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While the GOP pols who see fit to kiss the ring are a dubious collection of easily mocked figures, watching the “law and order” and “faith-based” party kneel before a criminal defendant in a case involving a porn star no less is another marker of how far things have fallen.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:50 am
Shirley wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:31 am
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:12 am Incorporating the relevant context, this is /endthread stuff.



https://x.com/jakesherman/status/179034 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
He's a Republican, why would we expect him to have a spine, or any principles?
Does attending this particular trial cause a notification on his son’s accountability partner app?
Excellent and hilarious question.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:50 am
Shirley wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:31 am
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:12 am Incorporating the relevant context, this is /endthread stuff.



https://x.com/jakesherman/status/179034 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
He's a Republican, why would we expect him to have a spine, or any principles?
Does attending this particular trial cause a notification on his son’s accountability partner app?
Internet.

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Overlander wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 10:58 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:50 am
Shirley wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:31 am

He's a Republican, why would we expect him to have a spine, or any principles?
Does attending this particular trial cause a notification on his son’s accountability partner app?
Internet.

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Yeah. Still chuckling
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It's not a cult!

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Shirley wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 5:58 am It's not a cult!

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It’s like they all shopped for the “Grifter” Halloween costume!
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Overlander wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:47 pm
Shirley wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 5:58 am It's not a cult!

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It’s like they all shopped for the “Grifter” Halloween costume!
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Donald Trump's 'slenderizing' fashion trick? Long ties

For anyone who’s met or seen a picture of Trump, it’s clear the president consistently heeds his own advice. The end of Trump’s tie usually falls well below his waistline. Trump then adjusts them to make the front much longer than the back, and infamously resorts to criss-crossed sticky tape to affix the stub of the back end to back of the front end …
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