"Conservative" Republican Fascists & Christo-Fascisism

[jhawks99]

I disagree with about everything HB said. Unlike some, I do not think he should be traded/cut. Rice actually hurt people and is still part of the team.

Yeah, it would seem logical to think that if Rice (and other players) can get away with being a danger to society and general assholes, what Butker did pales x 1,000 in comparison. However, ~ half the population of the country might not necessarily think so.

I think he has every right to say whatever he likes as long as he's willing to suffer the consequences, (At least he didn't take a knee!), and I haven't taken any position as far as whether he should stay or go. But I also think the Chiefs, as a privately held co., have every right, (within the constraints of their employment contracts), to do whatever they think they need to do to be successful and protect their product and brand, whether that involves Rice, Butker, or whoever.

I don't know, but I get the feeling that the billionaire oil dude shares at least some of HB's beliefs.

[jfish26]

Yeah, it would seem logical to think that if Rice (and other players) can get away with being a danger to society and general assholes, what Butker did pales x 1,000 in comparison. However, ~ half the population of the country might not necessarily think so.

I think he has every right to say whatever he likes as long as he's willing to suffer the consequences, (At least he didn't take a knee!), and I haven't taken any position as far as whether he should stay or go. But I also think the Chiefs, as a privately held co., have every right, (within the constraints of their employment contracts), to do whatever they think they need to do to be successful and protect their product and brand, whether that involves Rice, Butker, or whoever.

At some point, though, you can't have the Brady Morningstars of the world getting the DUIs.

The second (?) most famous guy on the team is dating the most famous woman (?) in the world. Who happens to be an outspoken lefty.

The fuck good does it do to have the kicker lighting brushfires that can very foreseeably turn into locker-room-melting conflagrations?

Yeah, calling Taylor and Travis out by inference in the speech seems beyond tone deaf, and like an blatant attempt to take his notoriety to another level, well above his grade.

And a delusional reading of the room. Particularly by a guy who saw his closest counterpart on the team replaced this offseason.

[jfish26]

I disagree with about everything HB said. Unlike some, I do not think he should be traded/cut. Rice actually hurt people and is still part of the team.

Yeah, it would seem logical to think that if Rice (and other players) can get away with being a danger to society and general assholes, what Butker did pales x 1,000 in comparison. However, ~ half the population of the country might not necessarily think so.

I think he has every right to say whatever he likes as long as he's willing to suffer the consequences, (At least he didn't take a knee!), and I haven't taken any position as far as whether he should stay or go. But I also think the Chiefs, as a privately held co., have every right, (within the constraints of their employment contracts), to do whatever they think they need to do to be successful and protect their product and brand, whether that involves Rice, Butker, or whoever.

I don't know, but I get the feeling that the billionaire oil dude shares at least some of HB's beliefs.

Ok, but the IQ points lie in the gap between "I get the feeling about this guy" and "that guy just said it."

[Shirley]

I disagree with about everything HB said. Unlike some, I do not think he should be traded/cut. Rice actually hurt people and is still part of the team.

Yeah, it would seem logical to think that if Rice (and other players) can get away with being a danger to society and general assholes, what Butker did pales x 1,000 in comparison. However, ~ half the population of the country might not necessarily think so.

I think he has every right to say whatever he likes as long as he's willing to suffer the consequences, (At least he didn't take a knee!), and I haven't taken any position as far as whether he should stay or go. But I also think the Chiefs, as a privately held co., have every right, (within the constraints of their employment contracts), to do whatever they think they need to do to be successful and protect their product and brand, whether that involves Rice, Butker, or whoever.

I don't know, but I get the feeling that the billionaire oil dude shares at least some of HB's beliefs.

I don't and hope to never have any reason to know, but I wouldn't doubt it.

[jhawks99]

HB made our local news.

[Shirley]

An inspiring speech. Mahomes makes KC look Good!

Video link here

[Overlander]

Just a good dude

[Sparko]

Just a good dude

Needed that. Mahomes shows how this is done

[jfish26]

Harrison Butker Overestimates His Range

https://defector.com/harrison-butker-ov ... -his-range

[...]

Before it can go away entirely, and before Butker can return to Being Unapologetic In His Masculinity in a corner of the locker room that people take great care to avoid, everyone needs to get on the record. The NFL, in response to the kicker's broadsides against diversity, reiterated its institutional dedication to inclusion. GLAAD pointed out that it was a strange choice on Butker's part to celebrate the proud graduates by treating them to a tight 20 minutes of free-associative Trad Cath boilerplate. The Benedictine Sisters of Mount St. Scholastica, the co-founding institution of Benedictine College, put a big statement on the front page of their website saying that they "do not believe that Harrison Butker’s comments in his 2024 Benedictine College commencement address represent the Catholic, Benedictine, liberal arts college that our founders envisioned and in which we have been so invested." Kansas City's official Twitter account made a point of noting that Butker does not actually live in Kansas City.

Our broader politics are not what you would call "healthy," but if you rap its knee with that little rubber mallet, some part of it will reflexively jump to support a kicker whose own teammate doesn't speak with him. Kansas City's Twitter account took its post down after Missouri's distressingly online attorney general put up a post "demanding accountability" for having "doxxed" the kicker; the city's mayor implored Butker Defense Squad members "seeking to harass, bully, and intimidate [that] have sent slurs and threats to and shared photos of women employees with no involvement with recent City posts" to "please just stop." Butker's jersey began selling briskly to people willing to entrust Fanatics with its goal of doing whatever the opposite of virtue signaling is. In acknowledgement of Butker's clammy cover version of his masculinist reactionary pablum, Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley reaffirmed their friendship by posting an alarmingly glossy photo of the two, seemingly acting as co-hosts of a show called Normal Guys Tonight.

As a text, Butker's speech does not provide much to hang your hat on. It is a trad placekicker's tremulous gripes about contraception and women working outside the home and Covid and whatever else, just a big pious blurt. He took the stage like a teapot boiling with grievance, and did not explain himself or address the graduates so much as he tipped himself over and poured himself out. This fit with the alternately goofy and vile tradition of commencement addresses, in which young people at a point of momentous transition in their lives must first pause to be upbraided by a wealthy stranger for some amount of time and on the topic of the stranger's choosing.

A sort of loneliness radiates from Butker's speech; there is the sense, in his words as in Aaron Rodgers's increasingly dire podcast riff sessions, that all of this displeasure has been bubbling away in there for quite some time without an outlet. Mostly, though, there is just disdain, not just for all the sinful things of the world but seemingly everyone and everything else in it. This routine is dull and grating when a credentialed elite careerist like Hawley does it—watch this Yale Law grad and Blackstone Legal Fellow doing his best to hit those church-in-the-mall beats on The Power Of Purpose—and it is not any more compelling when the guy who kicked the longest field goal in Super Bowl history nervously recites his grievances at a bunch of college kids from out of a three-ring binder.

As a dull provocation from a middling student of some extremely dull provocateurs, Butker's speech is at least illustrative. There is no room for anyone else in this worldview, no space for anyone to live or breathe. It's striking how Butker is unable or uninterested to connect his own faith with those of the coreligionists listening to him; this whole belief system vibrates at the frequency of cable news, and so there's nothing for him to share but a list of demands. If Butker's speech works as a commencement address, it is only as an opportunity for new graduates to learn how they will be treated by the sour and vengeful mediocrities who are also the most powerful people in the world they are joining: as a series of shadows whose only purpose is to be harangued, so that they might learn to be less displeasing. The advice Butker offered at Benedictine College is not really trying to be a part of any kind of conversation. It's just a kicker moving further and further out, to see what he can get away with.

[Overlander]

And, of course, Butker jerseys are flying off the shelves.

This country fucking sucks

[DeletedUser]

And, of course, Butker jerseys are flying off the shelves.

This country fucking sucks

It's bizarre.

[DeletedUser]

So I've skimmed the transcript now....

Basically he said he doesn't think catholics should take birth control, he thinks women should primarily be homemakers, and that the violence in our country is partly attributable to the absentee father rate.

Is there something I missed where he said something about Taylor and Travis?

[Overlander]

So I've skimmed the transcript now....

Basically he said he doesn't think catholics should take birth control, he thinks women should primarily be homemakers, and that the violence in our country is partly attributable to the absentee father rate.

Is there something I missed where he said something about Taylor and Travis?

Yes

[Sparko]

LOL. Vatican II. Pope Francis being too tolerant. Jewish people dog whistle. Kelce's girlfriend Taylor Swift mocked. LGBTQ as mortal sins. Democrats. Biden. Modern catholics. Public health rules. Vaccinations. He embraces Trump. Lauds toxic maculinity. Dismisses women and women's rights. Reproductive rights. All other religions. Destroys the tolerance upon which Jesus lived and taught.

The jersey sales are surrogate MAGA hats. Basically avoid anyone wearing one.

Fish: that essay was what I have been grasping to explain to people.

[KUTradition]

https://people.com/nuns-benedictine-col ... ch-8650171

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

So I've skimmed the transcript now....

Basically he said he doesn't think catholics should take birth control, he thinks women should primarily be homemakers, and that the violence in our country is partly attributable to the absentee father rate.

Is there something I missed where he said something about Taylor and Travis?

He said he "thinks"?

Yes, there was something(s) you missed where he said something about Taylor and Travis.
“As my teammate’s girlfriend says, Familiarity breeds contempt.”

Sparko helped you out with the other shit you seemed to have missed.

[twocoach]

And, of course, Butker jerseys are flying off the shelves.

This country fucking sucks

It's bizarre.

That describes much of the last 9 years.

[Shirley]

But, of course. Nice quote, Harrison. Large when they come right out and tell you who they are. And when they do, believe them.

Fuck Butker and the Christo-Fascists determined to impose their beliefs on the rest of us.

(If only there was another choice.)

[Shirley]

Democrats talked for over 2 straight days to protect our rights.

Let's talk about a big win for people in Missouri....

[jfish26]

Democrats talked for over 2 straight days to protect our rights.

Let's talk about a big win for people in Missouri....

Not many people - even Missouri residents - know that the state legislature has been intentionally paralyzed by religious right loons. If those loons are capable of reading and following the script (which is not a sure thing), we will soon see those loons use this specific example to bothsides the hell out of the paralysis.