Uncle Joe

[MICHHAWK]

we have more than plenty illegals to make my doritos locos tacos.

how many does it take.

[jfish26]

what SPECIFICALLY has Biden done to “enable” the cost of fast food to increase?

In consulting my FoxSpeak to English cheat sheet, I believe the answer is "when a Democrat is in the big chair, each thing I don't like is that Democrat's fault."

[jfish26]

we have more than plenty illegals to make my doritos locos tacos.

how many does it take.

In all seriousness, the number of "illegals" it takes to get food on your table is likely a multiple of what you think.

It it batshittery to be BOTH anti-immigrant and an inflation hawk.

[KUTradition]

batshittery?

that’s mich’s specialty

[KUTradition]

what SPECIFICALLY has Biden done to “enable” the cost of fast food to increase?

In consulting my FoxSpeak to English cheat sheet, I believe the answer is "when a Democrat is in the big chair, each thing I don't like is that Democrat's fault."

which is the sentiment i expect from someone like mich…not gutter

[jfish26]

Will put this here today, as we seem to house economic policy discussions here.

June 23, 2024

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-23-2024

On Thursday, Moody’s Analytics, which evaluates risk, performance, and financial modeling, compared the economic promises of President Joe Biden and presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump. Authors Mark Zandi, Brendan LaCerda, and Justin Begley concluded that while a second Biden presidency would see cooling inflation and continued economic growth of 2.1%, a Trump presidency would be an economic disaster.

Trump has promised to slash taxes on the wealthy, increase tariffs across the board, and deport at least 11 million immigrant workers. According to the analysts, these policies would trigger a recession by mid-2025. The economy would slow to an average growth of 1.3%. At the same time, tariffs and fewer immigrant workers would increase the costs of consumer goods. That inflation—reaching 3.6%—would result in 3.2 million fewer jobs and a higher unemployment rate.

Trump’s proposed tariffs would not fully offset his tax cuts, adding trillions to the national debt.

Michael Strain, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, said that Trump’s tariff policy “would be bad for workers and bad for consumers.” Chief Economist of Moody’s Analytics Mark Zandi said: “Biden’s policies are better for the economy.”

In the New York Times today, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, the president of the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute at the Yale School of Management, debunked the notion that corporate leaders support Trump. Sonnenfeld notes that he works with about 1,000 chief executives a year and speaks with business leaders almost every day. Although 60 to 70 percent of them are registered Republicans, he wrote, Trump “continues to suffer from the lowest level of corporate support in the history of the Republican Party.”

Among Fortune 100 chief executives, who lead the top 100 public and private U.S. companies ranked by revenue, Sonnenfeld notes, not one has donated to Trump this year.

While they might not be enthusiastic Biden supporters, unhappy with his push to enforce antitrust laws and rein in corporate greed, the president has produced results they like: investment in infrastructure, repair of supply chains, investment in domestic manufacturing, achievement of record corporate profits, and transformation of the U.S. into the largest producer of oil and natural gas in the world.

In contrast, they fear Trump. The populist plans that thrill supporters—like hiking tariffs and taking financial policy away from the independent Federal Reserve Board and putting it in his own hands—are red flags to business leaders. Such positions have more in common with the far left than with traditional Republican economic policies, Sonnenfeld says. Those policies reflect that Trump has surrounded himself with what Sonnenfeld calls “MAGA extremists and junior varsity opportunists,” while the more senior voices of his first term have been sidelined.

On Saturday, Trump spoke in Philadelphia with a message that The Guardian’s David Smith described as “light on facts, heavy on fear.” He appears to be trying to overwrite his own criminal conviction with the idea that Biden’s immigration policy has brought violent undocumented migrants to the United States, creating a surge of crime. He told rally attendees that murders in their city have reached their highest level in six decades, while in fact, violent crime in the city is the lowest it’s been in a decade.

In February, Trump pushed Republican lawmakers to reject a strong bipartisan border bill so he could use immigration as his primary issue in the election. That focus on immigration was key to the rise of Hungary’s Viktor Orbán to power, and it is notable that Trump’s picture of the United States echoes the rhetoric of the authoritarians hoping to overturn democracy around the world.

On Friday, during a podcast hosted by venture capitalists, Trump blamed Biden for starting Russia’s war against Ukraine by calling for Ukraine’s admission to NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization that resists Russian aggression. This statement utterly rewrites the history of Trump’s support for Russia’s annexation of the same Ukrainian regions it has now occupied: as Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort testified, the Kremlin helped Trump’s 2016 campaign in exchange for the U.S. permitting Russian incursions there.

More significant in this moment, though, is that Trump, who is running to become the leader of the United States, is siding against the United States and parroting Russian propaganda. Mark Hertling, a retired lieutenant general of the United States Army who served for 37 years and commanded U.S. Army operations in Europe and Africa, wrote: “This statement is—to put it mildly—stunningly misinformed and dangerous.”

Trump told host Sean Spicer that the U.S. is a “failing nation,” claiming that airplane flights are being delayed for four days and people are “pitching tents” because their flight is never going to happen. In reality, as Bill Kristol pointed out, with 16.3 million U.S. flights, 2023 was the busiest year in U.S. history for air travel, and the cancellation rate was below 1.2%. This was the lowest rate in a decade.

Trump is insisting at his rallies that crime is skyrocketing under Biden. In reality, crime rose rapidly at the end of Trump’s term but is now dropping. From 2022 to 2023, according to the FBI, the only crime that went up was motor vehicle theft. Murders dropped by 13.2%, rape by 12.5%, robbery by 4.7%, burglary by 9.8%. The first quarter of 2024 showed even greater drops. Compared to the same quarter in 2023, violent crime is down 15.2%, murder down 26.4%, rape down 25.7%, robbery down 17.8%, burglary down 16.7%. Even vehicle theft is down 17.3%.

Trump’s negative picture might play well to his die-hard supporters, but portraying the U.S. as a hellscape has rarely been a recipe for winning a presidential election.

President Biden and Trump are scheduled to debate on Thursday, June 27, and Trump’s team is trying to lower expectations for his performance. He became so incoherent in Philadelphia that the Fox News Channel actually cut away while he was talking. The Biden-Harris team has taken simply to posting Trump’s comments, prompting Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo to note: “It’s pretty bad when one candidates rapid response account just posts the other guys quote verbatim with no explanation at all.”

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[MICHHAWK]

legal immigration is my favorite.

it's the (il)legal immigration i can do without.

[jfish26]

legal immigration is my favorite.

it's the (il)legal immigration i can do without.

Then why in the world do you support a party that would, if it could, close the border to nearly all prospective immigrants that would work in low-paying jobs that most Americans do not want?

[KUTradition]

batshittery?

that’s mich’s specialty

^^^^^

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

what SPECIFICALLY has Biden done to “enable” the cost of fast food to increase?

I chose my words ("partially" and "helping to") carefully and still wasn't comfortable using them.
To answer your question, I'm sure I will get rebuttal, but one could argue that he was PARTIALLY responsible for HELPING to raise minimum wages and "wage growth". While that is a good thing for many people, it's not so good in regards to the costs it causes food companies, that pass those costs on to the consumer.
Again, I expect rebuttal but I will add he is PARTIALLY responsible for supply and demand, taxes, the rise in interest rates, and if people want to rightfully blame cooperate greed - then why does Biden get a free pass on allowing it to happen and why does he now feel an important need to address it and do something about it?

[MICHHAWK]

if the buck don't stop at the big boy chair. where does it.

millenial/gen z answer: "its somebody elses fault. its always somebody elses fault!"




if i wanted to payoutthenose for stuff i would go to canada.

[jfish26]

if the buck don't stop at the big boy chair. where does it.

millenial/gen z answer: "its somebody elses fault. its always somebody elses fault!"




if i wanted to payoutthenose for stuff i would go to canada.

But again, YOU support people who would make things MORE expensive HERE.

[KUTradition]

what SPECIFICALLY has Biden done to “enable” the cost of fast food to increase?

I chose my words ("partially" and "helping to") carefully and still wasn't comfortable using them.
To answer your question, I'm sure I will get rebuttal, but one could argue that he was PARTIALLY responsible for HELPING to raise minimum wages and "wage growth". While that is a good thing for many people, it's not so good in regards to the costs it causes food companies, that pass those costs on to the consumer.
Again, I expect rebuttal but I will add he is PARTIALLY responsible for supply and demand, taxes, the rise in interest rates, and if people want to rightfully blame cooperate greed - then why does Biden get a free pass on allowing it to happen and why does he now feel an important need to address it and do something about it?

specifics, please

what did he do or not do that would’ve made the current situation better?

[Overlander]

Trump made it a crime to be a low wage earner in this country.

You turn the valve down, even a little bit, on the supply of low wage earners, and low wage jobs go away.

If you bitch about how much your taco costs, after you complain about immigration….you are a twat.

Anyone here have a teenager that is preparing for his/her career making crunch wraps?

I didn’t think so

[MICHHAWK]

making crunch wraps was/is never intended to be a career. it's a part time job when you are in H.S.

if you think making crunch wraps is a career.... you are a twat.

[Overlander]

making crunch wraps was/is never intended to be a career. it's a part time job when you are in H.S.

if you think making crunch wraps is a career.... you are a twat.

Ah, but there actually IS a demographic that would be happy to make those crunch wraps. They show up when expected, they don’t spend half of the working day on social media. They buy things.

All they want in return is to be:
Left alone
Not treated like shit by folks they don’t know
Allow them to send money back to their families (who desperately need it)

You know, kind of what we all want.

[MICHHAWK]

in old uncles world. in burnie sanders world. you should be able to feed a family of 4. save for college. buy a house. take a vacation. all on a crunchwrapmakers salary.

[Sparko]

In a Christian world.

[MICHHAWK]

Ah, but there actually IS a demographic that would be happy to make those crunch wraps. They show up when expected, they don’t spend half of the working day on social media. They buy things.

All they want in return is to be:
Left alone
Not treated like shit by folks they don’t know
Allow them to send money back to their families (who desperately need it)

You know, kind of what we all want.

that is very romantic. if it were only true.

[ousdahl]

in old uncles world. in burnie sanders world. you should be able to feed a family of 4. save for college. buy a house. take a vacation. all on a crunchwrapmakers salary.

Whaddya mean, like the 1950s?