Happy Fourth of July!

[twocoach]

Gutter vent/rant for the day.

I could post some pics from last night but I will spare you.

Someone please explain this ("this" being many things I am going to type about) to me.

Weekly, all residents receive an email from our building management that includes the following.....
Roof Top Etiquette
In order for all residents to enjoy the Roof Top, please bear in mind the area is shared by Axis residents. As a courtesy reminder, please note-1) No Smoking, 2) No Glass Containers, 3) No Music/speakers.

Also, in the not so distant past, all residents received an email stating that due to people having large parties and inviting outside guests, residents have not been able to enjoy the rooftop and use the amenities. Therefore, you are not allowed to bring more than 2 guests per resident on/to the rooftop unless you reserve the party room.

On Wednesday (the 3rd) we had a shit ton of people on the rooftop to view the Navy Pier fireworks.
Many residents invited multiple (more than 2) guests. So be it, but then it became so crowded that security locked the doors so people (RESIDENTS - and guests) couldn't go from the party room out on to the rooftop - OR COME BACK IN.
HEY DUMBFUCK WHO MADE THAT DECISION - DID YOU NOT CONSIDER IT COULD BE A FIRE/EMERGENCY HAZARD TO LOCK THE DOORS - preventing the people on the rooftop from escaping if they needed to?
I could maybe understand if security was standing by the doors to easily unlock them, but security was nowhere to be found after the doors were locked. I don't know who eventually opened a side/back door (it had been locked from the outside) but for over an hour ALL the doors were locked from the inside and the outside. NOT COOL!

Here is where I could use some explanations.
Last night I went up to the rooftop. Clearly people had multiple (more than 2 guests). Ok not a big problem being that there was the ability for residents to find places to sit and stand, but.... There were a shitload of "glass containers" (BIG problem with that is we have had instances of people dropping beer and wine bottles off the ledge - that then fall 60 stories to the ground - and if someone is under them and gets hit, they die) and problems with people dropping "glass containers" on the ground on the 60th floor and people cutting themselves. No glass containers means no glass containers.
There were people smoking (cigars, cigarettes, weed, and vaping). Not a big deal to me but no smoking means no smoking.
There were people who were playing LOUD music through speakers. Not a big deal to me but sometimes it is a big deal to me when I go up to the rooftop to relax and there is shitty music blasting. No music/speakers means no music/speakers.
In other words, last night there was/were blatant violations and disregard of the rules.

So..... 3 questions.....
1. There was not a single security person on the rooftop at any point for the hour plus that I was up there last night. Why not?
2. How/why does the building make rules but then not enforce their rules - and why are there no repercussions for those who break them?
3. Two parter. It seems to be a generational thing. Many (most?) 20 something year olds feel rules don't apply to them.
a. Why not?
b. When you were 20 something years old, I assume like me, you probably weren't 100% respectful but hopefully like me, do you feel generally speaking, you were a more respectful person than many if not most 20 something year olds are today?

P.S. We have a security woman in the building named Sharon who works during the day.
She MAKES people abide by the rules and as someone put it to me perfectly about 3 or 4 weeks ago - "She doesn't play and lets it be known but I really like her, she's so nice".
The world would be a better place if every security person on this planet was a Sharon - and there were less Gutters.

1. There was not a single security person on the rooftop at any point for the hour plus that I was up there last night. Why not?

Because the company that owns the building has deemed that the expense of hiring security is larger than the expense of whatever damage is done by those breaking the rules.

2. How/why does the building make rules but then not enforce their rules - and why are there no repercussions for those who break them?

Because it saves them money not to enforce them but having provided them allows them to selectively enforce them against someone they want to get rid of.

3. Two parter. It seems to be a generational thing. Many (most?) 20 something year olds feel rules don't apply to them.
a. Why not?

Because they have spent their entire lives watching the generations above them tell them to follow the rules but then repeatedly break them for their own satisfaction.

b. When you were 20 something years old, I assume like me, you probably weren't 100% respectful but hopefully like me, do you feel generally speaking, you were a more respectful person than many if not most 20 something year olds are today?

I have no idea. Ask my parents. In general, there were MUCH less posted rules about what I could and could not do back when I was 20 than today's 20 year olds have to deal with. Yesterday's rule breaking hippies are now today's owners and landlords and suddenly they are writing all sorts of Karen rules to safeguard their investments.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Gutter vent/rant for the day.

I could post some pics from last night but I will spare you.

Someone please explain this ("this" being many things I am going to type about) to me.

Weekly, all residents receive an email from our building management that includes the following.....
Roof Top Etiquette
In order for all residents to enjoy the Roof Top, please bear in mind the area is shared by Axis residents. As a courtesy reminder, please note-1) No Smoking, 2) No Glass Containers, 3) No Music/speakers.

Also, in the not so distant past, all residents received an email stating that due to people having large parties and inviting outside guests, residents have not been able to enjoy the rooftop and use the amenities. Therefore, you are not allowed to bring more than 2 guests per resident on/to the rooftop unless you reserve the party room.

On Wednesday (the 3rd) we had a shit ton of people on the rooftop to view the Navy Pier fireworks.
Many residents invited multiple (more than 2) guests. So be it, but then it became so crowded that security locked the doors so people (RESIDENTS - and guests) couldn't go from the party room out on to the rooftop - OR COME BACK IN.
HEY DUMBFUCK WHO MADE THAT DECISION - DID YOU NOT CONSIDER IT COULD BE A FIRE/EMERGENCY HAZARD TO LOCK THE DOORS - preventing the people on the rooftop from escaping if they needed to?
I could maybe understand if security was standing by the doors to easily unlock them, but security was nowhere to be found after the doors were locked. I don't know who eventually opened a side/back door (it had been locked from the outside) but for over an hour ALL the doors were locked from the inside and the outside. NOT COOL!

Here is where I could use some explanations.
Last night I went up to the rooftop. Clearly people had multiple (more than 2 guests). Ok not a big problem being that there was the ability for residents to find places to sit and stand, but.... There were a shitload of "glass containers" (BIG problem with that is we have had instances of people dropping beer and wine bottles off the ledge - that then fall 60 stories to the ground - and if someone is under them and gets hit, they die) and problems with people dropping "glass containers" on the ground on the 60th floor and people cutting themselves. No glass containers means no glass containers.
There were people smoking (cigars, cigarettes, weed, and vaping). Not a big deal to me but no smoking means no smoking.
There were people who were playing LOUD music through speakers. Not a big deal to me but sometimes it is a big deal to me when I go up to the rooftop to relax and there is shitty music blasting. No music/speakers means no music/speakers.
In other words, last night there was/were blatant violations and disregard of the rules.

So..... 3 questions.....
1. There was not a single security person on the rooftop at any point for the hour plus that I was up there last night. Why not?
2. How/why does the building make rules but then not enforce their rules - and why are there no repercussions for those who break them?
3. Two parter. It seems to be a generational thing. Many (most?) 20 something year olds feel rules don't apply to them.
a. Why not?
b. When you were 20 something years old, I assume like me, you probably weren't 100% respectful but hopefully like me, do you feel generally speaking, you were a more respectful person than many if not most 20 something year olds are today?

P.S. We have a security woman in the building named Sharon who works during the day.
She MAKES people abide by the rules and as someone put it to me perfectly about 3 or 4 weeks ago - "She doesn't play and lets it be known but I really like her, she's so nice".
The world would be a better place if every security person on this planet was a Sharon - and there were less Gutters.

1. There was not a single security person on the rooftop at any point for the hour plus that I was up there last night. Why not?

Because the company that owns the building has deemed that the expense of hiring security is larger than the expense of whatever damage is done by those breaking the rules.

2. How/why does the building make rules but then not enforce their rules - and why are there no repercussions for those who break them?

Because it saves them money not to enforce them but having provided them allows them to selectively enforce them against someone they want to get rid of.

3. Two parter. It seems to be a generational thing. Many (most?) 20 something year olds feel rules don't apply to them.
a. Why not?

Because they have spent their entire lives watching the generations above them tell them to follow the rules but then repeatedly break them for their own satisfaction.

b. When you were 20 something years old, I assume like me, you probably weren't 100% respectful but hopefully like me, do you feel generally speaking, you were a more respectful person than many if not most 20 something year olds are today?

I have no idea. Ask my parents. In general, there were MUCH less posted rules about what I could and could not do back when I was 20 than today's 20 year olds have to deal with. Yesterday's rule breaking hippies are now today's owners and landlords and suddenly they are writing all sorts of Karen rules to safeguard their investments.

Thanks for taking the time to answer!

1. There is at least one security person on duty 24/7. Often multiple security people.
2. BINGO! At least I think that's BINGO! The rules are listed in the lease and say violating them are grounds for lease termination. Or some other similar word to "grounds". So they probably feel that legally they can do whatever the fuck they want - in regards to enforcing them or not enforcing them and the "punishment/s" they decide upon.
3. Good answer to a. I feel when rules made and aren't enforced, then people tend to skirt them/disregard/disobey them even more and see just how far they can take it. Good answer to b. Many rules aren't really rules. They are more legal protection mechanisms than rules.