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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:13 am the best we can hope for is someone or something eliminates dt. and old uncle is declared unfit unstable a menace to society and a danger to his country.

john kasich v gretchin whitmer
your party has had numerous opportunities, but has been too spineless and craven to do ANYTHING
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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What was (in January 2021) mere shortsighted cowardice becomes something altogether different now that the Supreme Court has - in very Trumpian fashion, when you think about it - filled the power vacuum created by that cowardice with...itself.
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i don't know what any of that means.

all old uncle has to do. in one rare moment of clarity. put his country first.
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All McConnell had to do, to avoid probably BOTH sides of this 2024 ticket, was give a handful of R Senators the green light to convict Trump in Impeachment II.

By failing to do so, he set everyone down the path that led to, among other things, this 2024 ticket.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:14 am i don't know what any of that means.

all old uncle has to do. in one rare moment of clarity. put his country first.
Have you EVER known what the fuck you were talking about?
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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:14 am i don't know what any of that means.

all old uncle has to do. in one rare moment of clarity. put his country first.
He seems to believe that he is putting country first by not dropping out. I doubt that replacing him at this late a juncture REDUCES the chance that Trump wins and Trump winning is definitely the worst of all the options when considering "country first".
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:24 am All McConnell had to do, to avoid probably BOTH sides of this 2024 ticket, was give a handful of R Senators the green light to convict Trump in Impeachment II.

By failing to do so, he set everyone down the path that led to, among other things, this 2024 ticket.
100% agree. The GOP is the only thing that could have flushed Trump down the toilet earlier. They chose selfish power chasing instead of "country first" and now here we are.
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I said it about dems. But now at this point, all either side would have to do do win a general election is offer up some halfway charismatic candidate under the age of 70.

But, go figure both sides are all in on two of the literally oldest and most unappealing doods to ever declare a candidacy.

It’s like both parties wanna loose.
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it's more likely that the old uncle and the good dr. are not quite ready to relinquish all the good stuff that comes with being in washington. that family has been lapping it up for 50+ years.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:24 am All McConnell had to do, to avoid probably BOTH sides of this 2024 ticket, was give a handful of R Senators the green light to convict Trump in Impeachment II.

By failing to do so, he set everyone down the path that led to, among other things, this 2024 ticket.
Merrick Garland would also like a word
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:54 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:24 am All McConnell had to do, to avoid probably BOTH sides of this 2024 ticket, was give a handful of R Senators the green light to convict Trump in Impeachment II.

By failing to do so, he set everyone down the path that led to, among other things, this 2024 ticket.
Merrick Garland would also like a word
I will say - RBG's legacy is deeply damaged by her failure to step aside until after it was apparent that her successor would be appointed by Trump.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:20 pm
KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:54 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:24 am All McConnell had to do, to avoid probably BOTH sides of this 2024 ticket, was give a handful of R Senators the green light to convict Trump in Impeachment II.

By failing to do so, he set everyone down the path that led to, among other things, this 2024 ticket.
Merrick Garland would also like a word
I will say - RBG's legacy is deeply damaged by her failure to step aside until after it was apparent that her successor would be appointed by Trump.
and of course mcconnell’s slimy hands are all over that as well
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Never voting republican again is a good start for all conservatives.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:51 am I said it about dems. But now at this point, all either side would have to do do win a general election is offer up some halfway charismatic candidate under the age of 70.

But, go figure both sides are all in on two of the literally oldest and most unappealing doods to ever declare a candidacy.

It’s like both parties wanna loose.
That's really not how it works at this point in the calendar.
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We’re 4 months out.

That’s a ton of time
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:48 pm We’re 4 months out.

That’s a ton of time
Feel free to describe in detail what it would take to replace Joe Biden AFTER the Democratic National Convention.

There isn't 4 months.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:58 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:48 pm We’re 4 months out.

That’s a ton of time
Feel free to describe in detail what it would take to replace Joe Biden AFTER the Democratic National Convention.

There isn't 4 months.
Or even now, in a manner that doesn’t restrict the Biden campaign from handing the keys to its funding and ops to another campaign.
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When do states start printing ballots?

I am sure it's not 2 weeks before voting occurs.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:58 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:48 pm We’re 4 months out.

That’s a ton of time
Feel free to describe in detail what it would take to replace Joe Biden AFTER the Democratic National Convention.

There isn't 4 months.
I’m citing Stewart’s take last night. (Didn’t gutter just share that?)

England put together an election in like 2 months. France did in less time yet.

I guess a lot of it comes down to whether dems really do try for a better candidate, or just acquiesce to Biden’s ego and sit on their thumbs (but with their fingers crossed!) for the next 4 months
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England population: 55.98 million

France population: 67.97 million

United States population: 333.3 million


JFC.
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