'merica's "Second Revolution", Project 2025

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Systemic
Propaganda
Gaslighting
Means of production

Cool words/phrases that I'm not totally sure Q understands very well.
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holy shit, trad, bitterness is not a good look for you.

ETA you neither, illy.

and fish, sure...saving democracy is an issue that transcends partisanship.

as such, and to my point - I don't think the solution to "saving democracy" is a partisan one.
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not a serious person
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Dude, trad, please chill.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:22 am

and fish, sure...saving democracy is an issue that transcends partisanship.

as such, and to my point - I don't think the solution to "saving democracy" is a partisan one.
Ok. Then you should be aware that you are on two-plus-year misinformation-amplifying crusade seeded by people who seek to divide the democracy-savers.
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More Putin parrot trolling out of fish, Allsome.

I am aware. We’ve been over this. Over and over again.

This whole save democracy thing is a lot longer than two years in the making fwiw

And speaking of misinformation, and of democracy, be aware you have very aggressively disallowed any and every bit of criticism of our own nation’s foreign policy. For over 2 years now!

And, what’s more undemocratic than disallowing criticism?
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:14 am he’s not a serious person…just trying to get laid
Here?
Defense. Rebounds.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:59 am More Putin parrot trolling out of fish, Allsome.

I am aware. We’ve been over this. Over and over again.

This whole save democracy thing is a lot longer than two years in the making fwiw

And speaking of misinformation, and of democracy, be aware you have very aggressively disallowed any and every bit of criticism of our own nation’s foreign policy. For over 2 years now!

And, what’s more undemocratic than disallowing criticism?
I am not surprised that you also fall into straw-man hyperbole and exaggeration - at no time have I done anything like what you say. I just decline to give Putin's evidenceless nonsense any weight on the basis of our own past failings and shortcomings, and I've heavily criticized you for doing that, because I think it is silly.

Evidence of the US' past failings and shortcomings is not, in and of itself, evidence supporting Putin's claims.

And what I am saying, here, is that you should be aware that you are being used to inflame divisiveness by laundering misinformation.

Is you doing that, here, going to result in the death of democracy? Of course not, that would be hyperbole and exaggeration. But the issue is that this is, by the design of those served by division, happening all over the place and on all sorts of issues.
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Yay. Another day with the boreds dominated by Oudahl providing nothing of value.
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jhawks99 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:12 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:14 am he’s not a serious person…just trying to get laid
Here?
maybe?

all i’m sayin is that’s been justification for his hot takes, by his own admission

when coupled with the overwhelming majority of his posts being sophomoric humor, it would seem a reasonable conclusion that he’s just not a serious person (or at the very least, not a persona on this board worth taking seriously)
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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I didn’t hear the RNC talking up a “Project 2025” agenda at the convention last night. I did like the speech by Amber Rose, and she effectively put to rest any Anti LGBTQ+ .
CNN commentator Van Jones described her speech as "the most dangerous speech for the Democratic coalition."

"She is describing the experience a lot of people have, feeling that maybe if you're around too many liberals, you might get criticized too much, and you might not be able to speak your mind. And she spoke to it really well. And she’s way more famous than any of us up here. I’m going to tell you that — way more famous. And so to the extent that these guys are trying to bust up our coalition, that was a bunker buster right there
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At the Republican National Convention on Monday, Amber Rose gave a nod to her past criticism At the Republican National Convention on Monday, Rose gave a nod to her past criticism of Trump. She said once she believed Trump was a racist.

But then she said she changed her mind after learning more about Trump and meeting his fans.

"People have to do their research. I watched all the rallies. And I started meeting so many of you, his red-hat-wearing supporters," she said laughing to cheers.

"And that's when it hit me: These are my people. This is where I belong," she added.

"I put the red hat on too."of Trump. She said once she believed Trump was a racist.

But then she said she changed her mind after learning more about Trump and meeting his fans.

"People have to do their research. I watched all the rallies. And I started meeting so many of you, his red-hat-wearing supporters," she said laughing to cheers.

"And that's when it hit me: These are my people. This is where I belong," she added.

"I put the red hat on too."
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:27 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:59 am More Putin parrot trolling out of fish, Allsome.

I am aware. We’ve been over this. Over and over again.

This whole save democracy thing is a lot longer than two years in the making fwiw

And speaking of misinformation, and of democracy, be aware you have very aggressively disallowed any and every bit of criticism of our own nation’s foreign policy. For over 2 years now!

And, what’s more undemocratic than disallowing criticism?
I am not surprised that you also fall into straw-man hyperbole and exaggeration - at no time have I done anything like what you say. I just decline to give Putin's evidenceless nonsense any weight on the basis of our own past failings and shortcomings, and I've heavily criticized you for doing that, because I think it is silly.

Evidence of the US' past failings and shortcomings is not, in and of itself, evidence supporting Putin's claims.

And what I am saying, here, is that you should be aware that you are being used to inflame divisiveness by laundering misinformation.

Is you doing that, here, going to result in the death of democracy? Of course not, that would be hyperbole and exaggeration. But the issue is that this is, by the design of those served by division, happening all over the place and on all sorts of issues.
You claim you’re not doing what I say, then, in the very next sentence, do what I say.

If, and I quote, “Evidence of the US' past failings and shortcomings is not, in and of itself, evidence supporting Putin's claims,” then how do you reconcile that with the way you’ve treated me?

I don’t think I’ve laundered misinformation. Rather, I’ve taken my time to verify any information I share. You just choose, very conspicuously and stubbornly, to n to ignore it, or otherwise not understand it. You’ve repeatedly admitted as much!

As for division - one of Biden’s bigger obstacles in defeating Trump is the whole perception he’s complicit in genocide. If he’s really serious about saving democracy, shouldn’t he do a little something more to reconcile the concerns about literal genocide?

But, your Putin trolling is derailing yet another thread. Let’s try to discuss Project 2025, shall we?

Cuz this one’s of particular importance to me:

What do you think of the hundreds of anti-LGBTQ+ laws passed into law while Biden’s in the big chair?

And how do we reconcile that with the Project 2025 boogeymanning?
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DeletedUser wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:34 am Yay. Another day with the boreds dominated by Oudahl providing nothing of value.
May I once again kindly suggest you ignore me.

Please?
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:00 am
jhawks99 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:12 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:14 am he’s not a serious person…just trying to get laid
Here?
maybe?

all i’m sayin is that’s been justification for his hot takes, by his own admission

when coupled with the overwhelming majority of his posts being sophomoric humor, it would seem a reasonable conclusion that he’s just not a serious person (or at the very least, not a persona on this board worth taking seriously)
What’s become of you and me really is tragic.
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Freedom! No
Not really. Crucifixion
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:14 am he’s not a serious person…just trying to get laid
I dunno. Whenever I'm 'single', I spend a decent amount of my time in some form trying to get laid. Having an in-house booty call makes this kind of thing easy to say about someone else, I suppose.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:51 am What do you think of the hundreds of anti-LGBTQ+ laws passed into law while Biden’s in the big chair?

And how do we reconcile that with the Project 2025 boogeymanning?
We reconcile it very simply: a 7/11 sandwich that is two days past its best-by date is preferable to a shit-and-cyanide sandwich. And the incessant need to compare the two, as if they are worthy of comparison, is a massive part of why we may (now, are likely to) have a shit-only diet for the foreseeable future.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:10 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:51 am What do you think of the hundreds of anti-LGBTQ+ laws passed into law while Biden’s in the big chair?

And how do we reconcile that with the Project 2025 boogeymanning?
We reconcile it very simply: a 7/11 sandwich that is two days past its best-by date is preferable to a shit-and-cyanide sandwich. And the incessant need to compare the two, as if they are worthy of comparison, is a massive part of why we may (now, are likely to) have a shit-only diet for the foreseeable future.
I do believe that Biden, does, perhaps, have enough perservatives pumped into him these days to resemble a grab n go offering from 7/11.
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Back2Lawrence wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:12 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:10 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:51 am What do you think of the hundreds of anti-LGBTQ+ laws passed into law while Biden’s in the big chair?

And how do we reconcile that with the Project 2025 boogeymanning?
We reconcile it very simply: a 7/11 sandwich that is two days past its best-by date is preferable to a shit-and-cyanide sandwich. And the incessant need to compare the two, as if they are worthy of comparison, is a massive part of why we may (now, are likely to) have a shit-only diet for the foreseeable future.
I do believe that Biden, does, perhaps, have enough perservatives pumped into him these days to resemble a grab n go offering from 7/11.
Perhaps one aspect in which the two sandwiches ARE properly comparable.
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