"Conservative" Republican Fascists & Christo-Fascisism

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Dumbfuck says what?
https://twitter.com/SpeakerJohnson/stat ... 1972473922

[KUTradition]

“truth and virtue”



if only…

[Overlander]

Dumbfuck says what?
https://twitter.com/SpeakerJohnson/stat ... 1972473922

Is anyone going to tell them that they have no fucking clue what they are talking about.

Those fucktards can find anything to be enraged about.

[zsn]

I guess the money laundering pump-and-dump operations are moving from real estate to crypto

[KUTradition]

Dumbfuck says what?
https://twitter.com/SpeakerJohnson/stat ... 1972473922

why’d you delete the other link?

i was thinking about this a bit today since there seems to be some butthurt on the right

given that Da Vinci was such a well-educated and well-traveled man during his time, i think it would be fair to assume that he would have been quite familiar with Greek mythology and “classical” literature and art, and so would have known about and even been influenced by things like Dionysus and the bacchanal. personally, i find it entirely unsurprising that The Last Supper bears a level of resemblance to depictions of the bacchanal, and find the outrage hilarious

what’s even funnier is that it’s a goddamn painting done in the 1490s, some 1450 or so years later, unless i’m mistaken…it’s merely what Da Vinci thought it should look like

so silly

[zsn]

The Right doesn’t need a lot to get butthurt! Silly is right.

Remember that these were the guys who picked a fight with a sitcom character in the 90s!! I’ve seen dog- and cat-versions of The Last Supper. What were the chances that all thirteen of the participants were lily white? Also what were the chances that the participants in a supper, last or otherwise, would sit in a row like that?

Finally, it’s a representation (a fantastic one, at that) by a gay medieval man, who experimented on corpses. I’m amazed at the straws that The Personal Responsibility and Mind Your Own Business Party grasps!!

[Shirley]

Angry veteran rants in truck about Christianity in government!

[jfish26]

It's not surprising (or unrelated to the Harris pivot) that the Ds are gaining a lot of traction by leaning away from hard-boiled policy matters and scarifying (however, in both cases, manifestly warranted), and toward basic human instinct to favor people to which we can relate.

Look At These Fucking Weirdos

https://defector.com/look-at-these-fucking-weirdos

What a weird week. Just eight(!) days ago, Joe Biden was the presumptive Democratic nominee, his party and the campaign were dead in the water, and its voters were begging for a miracle. Today, 99 days out from the election, the Kamala Harris campaign is pulling in donations hand over fist, polls have shifted to a dead heat and perhaps a slight Harris lead, her voters are energized, memes are being churned out, and the Republican Party, stripped of its one effective Bidencentric line of attack—he's old—is flailing mightily. Total shambles. No juice whatsoever.

What happened in that week to cause all of this is, put simply, that Republicans have been trying out angles of attack on Harris—a perfectly milquetoast liberal with a nice family and a big laugh and an occasional kookiness and who can be attacked much more effectively from the left than from the right, something they can't take advantage of—and all their angles of attack have been extremely fucking weird. And, this is crucial: Dems have pointed out just how weird they are.

Vice Presidential candidate J.D. Vance, the standard-bearer for odd guys you wouldn't want to hang out with, was staked to a years-old clip of him calling Harris a "childless cat lady." This would be just bad political instincts on its own, given that almost half of women in the United States don't have children, about 13 percent are stepparents like Harris, and 46 million U.S. households own cats. Vance, because he can't comprehend how normal people view normal things, doubled down when asked about his comments, saying, "I've got nothing against cats" and calling the Democrats "anti-family."

It is a weird stance to take by a weird guy—who drinks Diet Mountain Dew, let alone drafts it into a culture war joke that fell painfully flat?—but rather than being something that can be laughed off, Vance's oddity extends to policy. Harris supports an expansion of the child tax credit, an incomplete solution to the high cost of raising children; Vance wants to give parents extra votes, one for each of their kids. This is not a serious person.

A serious person doesn't support a ban on pornography, or say that women shouldn't get divorced just because they're unhappy, or oppose abortion in cases of rape and incest. But then, a serious person isn't recommended for the second-highest position in government by the most powerful grotesques of Silicon Valley: litigious vampire Peter Thiel, SPAC grifter Chamath Palihapitiya, even dumber Jason Calacanis David Sacks, and the most divorced man alive, Elon Musk, all of whom pushed Vance on Donald Trump. Vance—Yale Law, venture capitalist, obsessed with sex other people are having—resembles so many other vat-grown Thiel projects that have crashed and burned in previous elections upon voters getting the barest look at them and their values; Blake Masters really thought he could win over normal people by filming himself firing a gun in the desert and portraying his opponent, a literal astronaut, as a soyjak. (If you are not online enough to know what that is: Congratulations. The modern GOP's problem is that it's unsettlingly online.)

Is it any wonder, then, that when someone made up out of whole cloth a joke that Vance fucked a couch, everyone believed it?

People have had enough of this shit. Too many years of Donald Trump and Trump-enthralled Republicans lying and bullying their way to power, and targeting the most vulnerable to score points among their base of freaks and perverts. The When they go low, we go high counterstrategy of the Hillary Clinton era has been abandoned. It was not effective, and it was not satisfying. Now, when they say and do weird shit, Democrats simply point out, Hey, that's real weird.

+1 point to @GovTimWalz for calling Republicans weird. This is a message that should be widely adapted. Are they dangerous? Yes, but they're also fucking absurd. pic.twitter.com/v1BlwFgWmA

— Brett "Solidarity 2024" Banditelli (@banditelli) July 23, 2024
I’m telling you: these guys are weird. pic.twitter.com/fvNRNf7T7T

— Tim Walz (@Tim_Walz) July 24, 2024

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has been the foremost practitioner of the "call them weird" campaign strategy, but Harris has deployed it as well. It resonates with normal people, who just want to live their lives and keep the government out of their underwear and have Thanksgiving dinner without their weird uncle starting some weird fight about some weird Fox News talking head who is still obsessed about finishing fifth in a college swim meet many years ago.

These people are fucking weird! Vance instantly pivoted from pretending to care about rural America to sucking up to Silicon Valley reactionaries the instant he realized he could make more money that way. Trump seems to think Hannibal Lecter is real but also dead and that this is something his rally attendees want to hear him talk about. "Have you seen the guy laugh?" Walz asked of Trump. "It seems very weird to me that an adult can go through six-and-a-half years of being in the public eye and when he laughs it’s at someone—not with them.”

This, then, is the crux: It's a bad kind of weird. There's nothing inherently wrong with weirdness. I'm strange in some ways. I might bring up birds or Swedish melodic death metal in conversation. But I think you would enjoy getting a drink with me. I have opinions on light beers. We could talk about sports. I'd pick on the jukebox some things we'd both enjoy. We could be normal people, having a normal chat. Do you think there's any chance you'd have a normal evening in a bar chatting with Trump or Vance or any of their Roman-statue-head PFP followers? Absolutely not, because their weirdness is the type of weirdness that makes them unpleasant to be around. It's the type of weirdness that cedes Bud Light, Taylor Swift, and the NFL to the left because of all sorts of imagined grievances. And that weirdness, to a normal person, is the same sort of weirdness that would make them highly unpleasant as an omnipresence for the next four years. Do not underestimate the value of that to voters.

It's weird to be so obsessed with genitals, who has them, and what they do with them. It's weird to the point of fetishistic to be so concerned with people "breeding" to avoid being "replaced." It is fundamentally weird to care so much about what other people do when it doesn't affect you at all. Nobody wants to be around people like that, and we should say it.

Now, if everyone were calling me weird, do you know what I'd do? I'd ask someone I trust, "Am I being weird?" and if they said yes, I'd cut it out. That is not what Republicans are doing. They are complaining. They are throwing tantrums of imagined victimhood, which is the thing they do best:

This whole “they’re weird” argument from the Democrats is dumb & juvenile. This is a presidential election, not a high school prom queen contest. It’s also a tad ironic coming from the party that preaches “diversity & inclusion.” Win on policy if you can, but cut the crap please.

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) July 29, 2024

It's working. They're shook. It always works: When everyone tells the schoolyard bully that he's a freak and no one likes him, he loses his power. When Vivek Ramaswamy whines that the campaign should be fought over policy, everyone notices that Trump hasn't talked policy once on the campaign trail, instead rambling about sharks and trying out new nicknames for Harris.

Ramaswamy's is an ineffective counter because GOP policy is as strange as its politicians. Project 2025, an unofficial if widely embraced Conservative platform, calls to, among many other things: ban no-fault divorce; criminalize pornography; get rid of the Department of Education; ban overtime pay; institute "biblically based" interpretations of marriage and labor law, including discouraging working on "the Sabbath"; and eliminate the Department of Agriculture's dietary guidelines. The Heritage Foundation and other Conservative message-drivers have had years to come up with a platform, and it's so incredibly weird!

But the most effective aspect of the Dems' You're weird strategy is that it is an initiative. For my entire life, the Democrats have been passive campaigners, easily drawn into Republican framing of issues. It has been a mug's gambit to get suckered into arguments over where exactly means testing should begin, rather than rejecting it altogether. "Late-term abortion" is a Conservative phrase that when engaged with and adopted by Democrats, shifts the Overton window for Republicans to push for a 15-week abortion ban, which is functionally a full abortion ban. This doesn't work. You can't engage them on their terms, and let them dictate the conversation. The Dems' latest stratagem has the usefulness of both staying on the offensive, and immediately dismissing attempts to change the subject. No, you're weird, I'm not going to get into that with you.

The people crave normalcy. They want elected officials who are recognizable as human beings, with normal human interests and emotions. They want to occasionally go entire days without thinking about the President. Demonstrating that you hear and agree with them, giving them voice by pointing out the sheer weirdness of Republicans, isn't just good politics. It's basic humanity. It's not weird at all that it's working so well.

[KUTradition]

so much good stuff in there, a lot echoing the feelings i’ve had about elected dems since Al Franken fell on his sword

[Sparko]

Fish, thank you for pulling these articles. Gems

[japhy]

[jfish26]

One of my MAGA Facebook friends is testing out a “Kooky Kamala” thing, where she’s making funny faces or whatnot.

My brother in Mahomes, you don’t get it.

I saw a tweet the other day that I can’t find for attribution, but - the issue isn’t that Trump and Vance are guy dancing to music only he can hear weird, it’s that they’re don’t leave them alone with your kids weird.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

[KUTradition]

jfc

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/05/us/l ... ts-schools

[DeletedUser]

jfc

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/05/us/l ... ts-schools

So pointless. The vast majority of students will ignore them or not even see them. Feels like virtue signaling via legislation. Wasted tax dollars. Our country is in a weird place.

[jfish26]

jfc

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/05/us/l ... ts-schools

So pointless. The vast majority of students will ignore them or not even see them. Feels like virtue signaling via legislation. Wasted tax dollars. Our country is in a weird place.

It's virtue signaling, but it's also isolating and othering non-Christians.

[DeletedUser]

jfc

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/05/us/l ... ts-schools

So pointless. The vast majority of students will ignore them or not even see them. Feels like virtue signaling via legislation. Wasted tax dollars. Our country is in a weird place.

It's virtue signaling, but it's also isolating and othering non-Christians.

In theory, I agree.....but in application, I'm just not sure people really give a shit that much about a poster they may or may not see in a school? I especially don't think the students give a shit.

Totally understand your point. And also understand it's intentional on their part because some want this to be "one nation, under God". And they are hanging on as tight as they can. Maybe I am not as sensitive to it because I live in a blue state where this isn't happening.

I let the religious people be religious. Of every religion. It's just not my thing. And it's impossible to combat to an extent. Maybe that's the wrong attitude for me to have.

I do also think there is some "fuck Christians and their beliefs" that exists that doesn't exists as much for other religions by certain people. But I also understand they bring a lot of that on themselves.

Hopefully the Supreme Court shoots this stupid shit down.

If a religious school or school district wants to do it, fine. But making it a law for ALL classrooms is the definition of stupid to me. Waste of money, energy, and being done for the wrong reasons in my opinion.

[Shirley]

So pointless. The vast majority of students will ignore them or not even see them. Feels like virtue signaling via legislation. Wasted tax dollars. Our country is in a weird place.

It's virtue signaling, but it's also isolating and othering non-Christians.

In theory, I agree.....but in application, I'm just not sure people really give a shit that much about a poster they may or may not see in a school? I especially don't think the students give a shit.

Totally understand your point. And also understand it's intentional on their part because some want this to be "one nation, under God". And they are hanging on as tight as they can. Maybe I am not as sensitive to it because I live in a blue state where this isn't happening.

I let the religious people be religious. Of every religion. It's just not my thing. And it's impossible to combat to an extent. Maybe that's the wrong attitude for me to have.

I do also think there is some "fuck Christians and their beliefs" that exists that doesn't exists as much for other religions by certain people. But I also understand they bring a lot of that on themselves.

Hopefully the Supreme Court shoots this stupid shit down.

If a religious school or school district wants to do it, fine. But making it a law for ALL classrooms is the definition of stupid to me. Waste of money, energy, and being done for the wrong reasons in my opinion.

[jfish26]

To me it’s fairly simple: would those in favor of posting the Ten Commandments be willing to post equivalents from the Quran and similar texts?

[DeletedUser]

Loved her in Downton Abbey.