trumpty plumpty

[japhy]

The weird old guy making some more weird statements.

Former President Donald Trump attempted to explain what he meant when he told a crowd of Christians last Friday that, as far as voting goes, they wouldn’t “have to do it anymore” if he wins in November.

Trump spoke to Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Monday amid criticism about his remarks, which Democrats say is further evidence that he would attempt to stay in office beyond a second term. Opponents have pointed to other remarks in which he pledged to only be a dictator on “day one” of a new term and vowed to retaliate against his critics if he returns to the White House.

Ingraham afforded Trump multiple attempts to reject Democrats’ claims that he was telling supporters they wouldn’t need to vote again in the future, but Trump reiterated that Christians wouldn’t have to vote for him multiple times.

“This was a crowd that liked me a lot ... and they’re treated very badly by this administration, OK?” Trump said of his speech Friday at the faith-focused event in Florida.

“That statement is very simple,” he added. “I said, vote for me; you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true.”

“This time vote, I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore, I won’t need your vote.”

“You meant you won’t have to vote for you because you’ll have four years in office,” Ingraham pressed.

“I’m saying go out, you must vote,” Trump replied. “I said to the Christians in the room … you have to vote on Nov. 5. After that, you don’t have to worry about voting anymore — I don’t care — because we’re going to fix up, the country will be fixed and we won’t even need your vote anymore because frankly we will have such love.”

The former president added that Christians and gun owners were the key groups he was trying to appeal to, claiming they “don’t vote.” He also repeated his claim that Jewish Americans who vote for a Democrat “should have your head examined.”

Vice President Kamala Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has hit Trump in recent days after he has continued to lay groundwork to dodge the next presidential debate, in which Trump would likely face her. President Joe Biden dropped out of his reelection campaign a week ago amid fallout over his disastrous performance in the June 27 debate with Trump. Ingraham asked why Trump didn’t seem willing to appear.

“I want to do a debate, but I also can say this: Everybody knows who I am,” he told the host. “And now people know who she is. She’s a radical left lunatic.”

“Then why not debate her?” Ingraham replied.

“Well, wait, because they already know everything,” Trump replied.

We know who he is, and Kamala knows his type. All he has left is his beloved cult and his boot licking repugnican sycophants. Nothing about the late great Hannibel Lector, Fox probably cut that part of his riff.

[KUTradition]

doubling down makes it worse

[japhy]

make it worse

trumpty dumpty's new campaign slogan!

[twocoach]

In other words, "I don't care if you ever vote again after you vote for me. So long as I get what I need from you this November, I don't give a shit about you after that."

[jfish26]

doubling down makes it worse

It's certainly very odd for a two-dozen-time club champion to have a ball placed on a tee for him, only to grab the ball, throw it in a bunker, pour some ketchup on it, and then try to hit it toward the tennis courts.

[japhy]

weird old guy panics when he feels his cult shrinking at the point where his fragile ego needs a smattering of screeching crowd noise the most

Panicking Trump Picked J.D. Vance After Slip With Key Voter Group

Former President Donald Trump has a serious problem with white men: They don’t want to vote for him. At least, not the way they did in 2016.

To plug the hole in Trump’s boat, the former president brought in Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, intending to “leave him in Pennsylvania” and secure blue-collar workers across the Rust Belt—namely, white men. Trump’s advisers believe that Vance could help keep white male voters on board, according to The Washington Post.

Trump’s problem with white guys is nothing new. In April, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that the demographics that historically supported Trump have begun to shift and the groundswell of support from white male voters that Trump had experienced in 2016 was dissipating.

In 2016, Trump was able to fire up his white men without college degrees by focusing his campaign rhetoric on immigration and white grievance, or the idea that white people are the victims of discrimination, ideas that remain key among Republican voters, according to NPR.

But by 2020, it seemed that argument had already started to lose ground among white voters across the educational spectrum, who began to defect to Joe Biden’s camp. While Trump still came out on top in securing white male voters, the difference between their turnout in 2016 and 2020 was the nail in the coffin of his reelection bid.

Things only got worse from there. According to NPR, between 2020 and 2024, Biden saw a 24-point bump among white men with college degrees, a group that has historically backed Republicans.

Trump has begun to experience a slip in swing states, as well. Polling from late 2023 and early 2024 in Wisconsin, a key battleground state, showed that Trump’s net favorability rating among white men had dropped 22 points, from plus eight points to minus 14 points. Trump saw major slips with self-identified Republicans, rural men, and white men who did not attend college, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. These groups have a sizable overlap and make up a crucial part of Trump’s base.

In an effort to reclaim these voters, Trump tapped Vance to be his running mate, as someone who could theoretically appeal to both college-educated and non–college educated white men, touting his widely popularized white working-class roots alongside his degree from Yale Law School.

“You need a white guy to get the white guys we lost. The Hillbilly Elegy guy is the one to do it,” MAGA political operative Vish Burra told The Bulwark. “Trump needs Vance because he’s good on camera and he sounds right. He’s not one of these people you can dismiss as a MAGAloid or a barbarian.”

So far, it’s not totally clear that Vance is up for the task of white guy retrieval.

While there was plenty of initial excitement over Vance’s selection, a YouGov poll taken the week his nomination was announced found that Vance was viewed “very” favorably by only 18 percent of male respondents and “very” unfavorably by 28 percent. The results were identical among white respondents.

The same poll found that male respondents and white respondents were about evenly split in supporting versus disapproving of Trump picking Vance.

CNN analyst Harry Enten reported last week that Vance averaged a net favorability of negative six points across all polls, a number that was far lower than any other vice presidential nominee in history, including former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Thoughts and prayers that James Davenport Vance can be the cringe producing emotional support furniture that trumpty plumpty and the rest of his pearl clutching cult needs in these trying times.

[Sparko]

Love seat! Is a little old place they can share forever. Love seat! With apologies to the B-52s

[jfish26]

weird old guy panics when he feels his cult shrinking at the point where his fragile ego needs a smattering of screeching crowd noise the most

Panicking Trump Picked J.D. Vance After Slip With Key Voter Group

Former President Donald Trump has a serious problem with white men: They don’t want to vote for him. At least, not the way they did in 2016.

To plug the hole in Trump’s boat, the former president brought in Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, intending to “leave him in Pennsylvania” and secure blue-collar workers across the Rust Belt—namely, white men. Trump’s advisers believe that Vance could help keep white male voters on board, according to The Washington Post.

Trump’s problem with white guys is nothing new. In April, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that the demographics that historically supported Trump have begun to shift and the groundswell of support from white male voters that Trump had experienced in 2016 was dissipating.

In 2016, Trump was able to fire up his white men without college degrees by focusing his campaign rhetoric on immigration and white grievance, or the idea that white people are the victims of discrimination, ideas that remain key among Republican voters, according to NPR.

But by 2020, it seemed that argument had already started to lose ground among white voters across the educational spectrum, who began to defect to Joe Biden’s camp. While Trump still came out on top in securing white male voters, the difference between their turnout in 2016 and 2020 was the nail in the coffin of his reelection bid.

Things only got worse from there. According to NPR, between 2020 and 2024, Biden saw a 24-point bump among white men with college degrees, a group that has historically backed Republicans.

Trump has begun to experience a slip in swing states, as well. Polling from late 2023 and early 2024 in Wisconsin, a key battleground state, showed that Trump’s net favorability rating among white men had dropped 22 points, from plus eight points to minus 14 points. Trump saw major slips with self-identified Republicans, rural men, and white men who did not attend college, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. These groups have a sizable overlap and make up a crucial part of Trump’s base.

In an effort to reclaim these voters, Trump tapped Vance to be his running mate, as someone who could theoretically appeal to both college-educated and non–college educated white men, touting his widely popularized white working-class roots alongside his degree from Yale Law School.

“You need a white guy to get the white guys we lost. The Hillbilly Elegy guy is the one to do it,” MAGA political operative Vish Burra told The Bulwark. “Trump needs Vance because he’s good on camera and he sounds right. He’s not one of these people you can dismiss as a MAGAloid or a barbarian.”

So far, it’s not totally clear that Vance is up for the task of white guy retrieval.

While there was plenty of initial excitement over Vance’s selection, a YouGov poll taken the week his nomination was announced found that Vance was viewed “very” favorably by only 18 percent of male respondents and “very” unfavorably by 28 percent. The results were identical among white respondents.

The same poll found that male respondents and white respondents were about evenly split in supporting versus disapproving of Trump picking Vance.

CNN analyst Harry Enten reported last week that Vance averaged a net favorability of negative six points across all polls, a number that was far lower than any other vice presidential nominee in history, including former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Thoughts and prayers that James Davenport Vance can be the cringe producing emotional support furniture that trumpty plumpty and the rest of his pearl clutching cult needs in these trying times.

God damn it, I am SO disappointed that his middle name is not actually Davenport.

[KUTradition]

weird old guy panics when he feels his cult shrinking at the point where his fragile ego needs a smattering of screeching crowd noise the most

Panicking Trump Picked J.D. Vance After Slip With Key Voter Group

Former President Donald Trump has a serious problem with white men: They don’t want to vote for him. At least, not the way they did in 2016.

To plug the hole in Trump’s boat, the former president brought in Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, intending to “leave him in Pennsylvania” and secure blue-collar workers across the Rust Belt—namely, white men. Trump’s advisers believe that Vance could help keep white male voters on board, according to The Washington Post.

Trump’s problem with white guys is nothing new. In April, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that the demographics that historically supported Trump have begun to shift and the groundswell of support from white male voters that Trump had experienced in 2016 was dissipating.

In 2016, Trump was able to fire up his white men without college degrees by focusing his campaign rhetoric on immigration and white grievance, or the idea that white people are the victims of discrimination, ideas that remain key among Republican voters, according to NPR.

But by 2020, it seemed that argument had already started to lose ground among white voters across the educational spectrum, who began to defect to Joe Biden’s camp. While Trump still came out on top in securing white male voters, the difference between their turnout in 2016 and 2020 was the nail in the coffin of his reelection bid.

Things only got worse from there. According to NPR, between 2020 and 2024, Biden saw a 24-point bump among white men with college degrees, a group that has historically backed Republicans.

Trump has begun to experience a slip in swing states, as well. Polling from late 2023 and early 2024 in Wisconsin, a key battleground state, showed that Trump’s net favorability rating among white men had dropped 22 points, from plus eight points to minus 14 points. Trump saw major slips with self-identified Republicans, rural men, and white men who did not attend college, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. These groups have a sizable overlap and make up a crucial part of Trump’s base.

In an effort to reclaim these voters, Trump tapped Vance to be his running mate, as someone who could theoretically appeal to both college-educated and non–college educated white men, touting his widely popularized white working-class roots alongside his degree from Yale Law School.

“You need a white guy to get the white guys we lost. The Hillbilly Elegy guy is the one to do it,” MAGA political operative Vish Burra told The Bulwark. “Trump needs Vance because he’s good on camera and he sounds right. He’s not one of these people you can dismiss as a MAGAloid or a barbarian.”

So far, it’s not totally clear that Vance is up for the task of white guy retrieval.

While there was plenty of initial excitement over Vance’s selection, a YouGov poll taken the week his nomination was announced found that Vance was viewed “very” favorably by only 18 percent of male respondents and “very” unfavorably by 28 percent. The results were identical among white respondents.

The same poll found that male respondents and white respondents were about evenly split in supporting versus disapproving of Trump picking Vance.

CNN analyst Harry Enten reported last week that Vance averaged a net favorability of negative six points across all polls, a number that was far lower than any other vice presidential nominee in history, including former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Thoughts and prayers that James Davenport Vance can be the cringe producing emotional support furniture that trumpty plumpty and the rest of his pearl clutching cult needs in these trying times.

i think John Oliver drew a similar conclusion, but for different reasons

he figured vance was picked to widen the landslide victory the trump team was planning got against Biden

but then…Kamala

[jfish26]

weird old guy panics when he feels his cult shrinking at the point where his fragile ego needs a smattering of screeching crowd noise the most

Panicking Trump Picked J.D. Vance After Slip With Key Voter Group

Former President Donald Trump has a serious problem with white men: They don’t want to vote for him. At least, not the way they did in 2016.

To plug the hole in Trump’s boat, the former president brought in Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, intending to “leave him in Pennsylvania” and secure blue-collar workers across the Rust Belt—namely, white men. Trump’s advisers believe that Vance could help keep white male voters on board, according to The Washington Post.

Trump’s problem with white guys is nothing new. In April, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that the demographics that historically supported Trump have begun to shift and the groundswell of support from white male voters that Trump had experienced in 2016 was dissipating.

In 2016, Trump was able to fire up his white men without college degrees by focusing his campaign rhetoric on immigration and white grievance, or the idea that white people are the victims of discrimination, ideas that remain key among Republican voters, according to NPR.

But by 2020, it seemed that argument had already started to lose ground among white voters across the educational spectrum, who began to defect to Joe Biden’s camp. While Trump still came out on top in securing white male voters, the difference between their turnout in 2016 and 2020 was the nail in the coffin of his reelection bid.

Things only got worse from there. According to NPR, between 2020 and 2024, Biden saw a 24-point bump among white men with college degrees, a group that has historically backed Republicans.

Trump has begun to experience a slip in swing states, as well. Polling from late 2023 and early 2024 in Wisconsin, a key battleground state, showed that Trump’s net favorability rating among white men had dropped 22 points, from plus eight points to minus 14 points. Trump saw major slips with self-identified Republicans, rural men, and white men who did not attend college, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. These groups have a sizable overlap and make up a crucial part of Trump’s base.

In an effort to reclaim these voters, Trump tapped Vance to be his running mate, as someone who could theoretically appeal to both college-educated and non–college educated white men, touting his widely popularized white working-class roots alongside his degree from Yale Law School.

“You need a white guy to get the white guys we lost. The Hillbilly Elegy guy is the one to do it,” MAGA political operative Vish Burra told The Bulwark. “Trump needs Vance because he’s good on camera and he sounds right. He’s not one of these people you can dismiss as a MAGAloid or a barbarian.”

So far, it’s not totally clear that Vance is up for the task of white guy retrieval.

While there was plenty of initial excitement over Vance’s selection, a YouGov poll taken the week his nomination was announced found that Vance was viewed “very” favorably by only 18 percent of male respondents and “very” unfavorably by 28 percent. The results were identical among white respondents.

The same poll found that male respondents and white respondents were about evenly split in supporting versus disapproving of Trump picking Vance.

CNN analyst Harry Enten reported last week that Vance averaged a net favorability of negative six points across all polls, a number that was far lower than any other vice presidential nominee in history, including former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Thoughts and prayers that James Davenport Vance can be the cringe producing emotional support furniture that trumpty plumpty and the rest of his pearl clutching cult needs in these trying times.

i be think John Oliver drew a similar conclusion, but for different reasons

he figured vance was picked to widen the landslide victory the trump team was planning got against Biden

but then…Kamala

The most LOGICAL explanation for the Vance pick is the technocrat money.

[KUTradition]

weird old guy panics when he feels his cult shrinking at the point where his fragile ego needs a smattering of screeching crowd noise the most



Thoughts and prayers that James Davenport Vance can be the cringe producing emotional support furniture that trumpty plumpty and the rest of his pearl clutching cult needs in these trying times.

i be think John Oliver drew a similar conclusion, but for different reasons

he figured vance was picked to widen the landslide victory the trump team was planning got against Biden

but then…Kamala

The most LOGICAL explanation for the Vance pick is the technocrat money.

but that assumes logic is actually being used

[Back2Lawrence]

Love seat! Is a little old place they can share forever. Love seat! With apologies to the B-52s

Please don’t black light it.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Trumpty Plumpty in Chicago tomorrow. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 601913007/

Semi related side note...
Riddle me this Batman.
Lollapalooza.
People supposed to come pick up wristbands at will call tomorrow. Not going to happen around noon time.
120,000 people day congregating in the Grant Park area on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Sunday. Loud music. Street closures.
Why the fuck would the NABJ hold the convention Wednesday thru Sunday across the street from the festival?

[Overlander]

Trumpty Plumpty in Chicago tomorrow. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 601913007/

Semi related side note...
Riddle me this Batman.
Lollapalooza.
People supposed to come pick up wristbands at will call tomorrow. Not going to happen around noon time.
120,000 people day congregating in the Grant Park area on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Sunday. Loud music. Street closures.
Why the fuck would the NABJ hold the convention Wednesday thru Sunday across the street from the festival?

So Trump can claim the crowd was his?

[japhy]

They really seem to be fine tuning the message. Kamala is antisemitic and her husband is a "crappy Jew".
Good hard hitting stuff from the weird old guy. People love weird old guys who can't remember who they are yelling about. It's the sort of shitshow level stuff that makes memory care facilities such popular tourist attractions.

Donald Trump agreed with a right-wing radio host who called the Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff a “crappy Jew” during a radio show Tuesday.

The hateful comment about Kamala Harris’ husband came from Sid Rosenberg during a segment where he interviewed Trump on his New York-based show Sid & Friends In The Morning.

“Doug Emhoff, Mr. President, is Jewish,” Rosenberg said. “He’s Jewish like Bernie Sanders is Jewish. Are you kidding me? He’s a crappy Jew. He’s a horrible Jew.”

As Rosenberg spoke, Trump could be heard agreeing by saying “yes” twice, once after Emhoff was compared to Sen. Sanders (D-VT) and again after the second gentleman was referred to as a “crappy Jew.”

Trump had his own choice words for Jewish people during the segment, in which he briefly spoke as if Joe Biden remained the nominee at the top of Democrats’ presidential ticket.

“Any Jewish person that votes for Biden or a Democrat, but votes for Biden,” he said before explaining he meant to say Harris. “... should have their head examined.”

The former president later added: “If you are Jewish, regardless of Israel, if you’re Jewish, if you vote for a Democrat, you’re a fool, an absolute fool.”

Trump also claimed that Harris, whose husband of nearly 10 years is Jewish, “doesn’t like” Jewish people.

“You know it, I know it,” Trump said of his unsubstantiated claim about Harris. “Everybody knows it, and nobody wants to say it.”

Not true, trumpty dumpty wants to say it over and over again. So is that a double lie?

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

They really seem to be fine tuning the message. Kamala is antisemitic and her husband is a "crappy Jew".
Good hard hitting stuff from the weird old guy. People love weird old guys who can't remember who they are yelling about. It's the sort of shitshow level stuff that makes memory care facilities such popular tourist attractions.

Donald Trump agreed with a right-wing radio host who called the Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff a “crappy Jew” during a radio show Tuesday.

The hateful comment about Kamala Harris’ husband came from Sid Rosenberg during a segment where he interviewed Trump on his New York-based show Sid & Friends In The Morning.

“Doug Emhoff, Mr. President, is Jewish,” Rosenberg said. “He’s Jewish like Bernie Sanders is Jewish. Are you kidding me? He’s a crappy Jew. He’s a horrible Jew.”

As Rosenberg spoke, Trump could be heard agreeing by saying “yes” twice, once after Emhoff was compared to Sen. Sanders (D-VT) and again after the second gentleman was referred to as a “crappy Jew.”

Trump had his own choice words for Jewish people during the segment, in which he briefly spoke as if Joe Biden remained the nominee at the top of Democrats’ presidential ticket.

“Any Jewish person that votes for Biden or a Democrat, but votes for Biden,” he said before explaining he meant to say Harris. “... should have their head examined.”

The former president later added: “If you are Jewish, regardless of Israel, if you’re Jewish, if you vote for a Democrat, you’re a fool, an absolute fool.”

Trump also claimed that Harris, whose husband of nearly 10 years is Jewish, “doesn’t like” Jewish people.

“You know it, I know it,” Trump said of his unsubstantiated claim about Harris. “Everybody knows it, and nobody wants to say it.”

Not true, trumpty dumpty wants to say it over and over again. So is that a double lie?

She's probably not anti-Semitic.
I don't know how pro-Israel she is - or isn't.
Her husband IS a crappy Jew in some regards.
Her husband probably doesn't like some/many Jewish people. Many Jewish people don't like other Jewish people just as many Christian people don't like other Christian people.

As far as Trump spewing his shit...
I'm struggling to get his purpose. A substantial amount of MAGA heads don't like Jews.
A lot of his cultist's (the ones who are pro-Israel but anti-Jew - and anti-Muslim) heads must be spinning trying to figure out Trump's message.

[KUTradition]

care to share why you think he’s a crappy Jew?

just curious

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

care to share why you think he’s a crappy Jew?

just curious

I'll preface my response by saying I'm extremely confident I am a worse Jew than he is, and in many ways he's a very good Jew, but in some way's he's a "crappy Jew".
I'll add, these aren't reasons why I feel he's a crappy Jew. Frankly, the things I will mention don't really matter to me at all, but they do matter to other Jews - who would say he's a "crappy Jew" because of them.

A. He's a reform Jew.
B. Married a non-Jew who I don't believe converted.
C. Married a another non-Jew who definitely did not convert.
D. Didn't raise his kids Jewish, his Daughter doesn't "identify" as being Jewish, says religion was not a part of her life growing up.

[Sparko]

Appreciate the Gutter intell. But it is disturbing seeing a fascist sorting jewish folk. Good and bad is just his first winnowing.

[KUTradition]

care to share why you think he’s a crappy Jew?

just curious

I'll preface my response by saying I'm extremely confident I am a worse Jew than he is, and in many ways he's a very good Jew, but in some way's he's a "crappy Jew".
I'll add, these aren't reasons why I feel he's a crappy Jew. Frankly, the things I will mention don't really matter to me at all, but they do matter to other Jews - who would say he's a "crappy Jew" because of them.

A. He's a reform Jew.
B. Married a non-Jew who I don't believe converted.
C. Married a another non-Jew who definitely did not convert.
D. Didn't raise his kids Jewish, his Daughter doesn't "identify" as being Jewish, says religion was not a part of her life growing up.

interesting, thanks

edit: thinking about this more, i think i have more respect for him because of all those things…at face value, they indicate open-mindedness and likely an ability to compromise