Who is the GOAT

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Earl Manigault
Joe Hammond
Raymond Lewis

Honorable Mention
Lloyd Daniels
Ben Wilson
Ronnie Fields

Why is my list wrong?
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Reggie, Jay Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then Me
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DeletedUser wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:43 am
pdub wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:39 am Your list is fine.
I just think Bill wouldn’t be as good as he was if he played when athletes committed to the sport 24/7 and were playing it all over the world.

It’s subjective ( to a point ) how you judge players from other eras.
And if you transport the guys today to those old eras, they'd put up crazier numbers than the olds did.
Until they get clotheslined by Charles Oakley or Rick Mahon.
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Both Tim Duncan and Shaq were taller and bigger than both those dudes.
Oakley ain't stopping peak Lakers Shaq.
Hell LeBron is bigger than Charles Oakley.
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Overlander wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:07 pm My list:

Ewing



MJ




Wilt
Bill Russell
Bird
Kareem
Hakeem
Magic

Kobe
LeBitch
If you're going to put Ewing on your GOAT list, might as well do this
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Overlander wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:55 am
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:43 am
pdub wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:39 am Your list is fine.
I just think Bill wouldn’t be as good as he was if he played when athletes committed to the sport 24/7 and were playing it all over the world.

It’s subjective ( to a point ) how you judge players from other eras.
And if you transport the guys today to those old eras, they'd put up crazier numbers than the olds did.
Until they get clotheslined by Charles Oakley or Rick Mahon.
Haha... they'd flop before they ever got touched.
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pdub wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:09 pm
Hell LeBron is bigger than Charles Oakley.
Which would you rather fight in a dark alley?
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Sasquatch wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:59 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:07 pm My list:

Ewing



MJ




Wilt
Bill Russell
Bird
Kareem
Hakeem
Magic

Kobe
LeBitch
If you're going to put Ewing on your GOAT list, might as well do this
Ok, I admit, it was a bad move putting Ewing on my list.
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Overlander wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 4:15 pm
pdub wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:09 pm
Hell LeBron is bigger than Charles Oakley.
Which would you rather fight in a dark alley?
At their current ages, Oakley. In their primes, LeBron.
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pdub wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:09 pm Both Tim Duncan and Shaq were taller and bigger than both those dudes.
Oakley ain't stopping peak Lakers Shaq.
Hell LeBron is bigger than Charles Oakley.
an aged Oakley and a younger Shaq had some pretty intense battles
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It is easy to see the age factor in regards to our opinions of who truly great players are.

If you weren't following the NBA in the mid 80s to mid 90s, you have no real idea of just how physical the game was then.

Jordan, Bird, etc. took an absolute ass whipping every single time that the had the balls to take the ball to the hoop.
Shooters were man handled at the 3 point line like they stole something.
Rebounding was an absolute street fight.

IMO, if LeBron is this much of a whiney pussy in the current NBA, he would have been crushed in the old NBA. His physical size is not the issue...his fortitude is.

And, I am not just saying that about LeBron. Durant, Edwards, etc would not be the same players that they are today in that era. Could they get the stats? Maybe, if they had the balls.

No question that the players today are better conditioned, more skilled and polished.

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I agree the game is less physical—in fact I hated it years ago when they shifted away from hand checking and bodying.

That said LeBron is a freak of nature—body of a hefty power forward who would boss people around in the 80s and 90s — with the agility of Pippen and the vision of Stockton.

And while he might try to embellish something to get a call, he actually is incredibly tough, he’s taken huge hits that would wipe out smaller guys and played through it. Look how many games he’s played.

He’d be just fine in the 90s. He’d dominate em.
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Who started the flopping trend?
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DeletedUser wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:55 pm Who started the flopping trend?
Spurs at the mid/end of their run unfortunately.

Ginobli was like Shakespeare.
Harden was like Arthur Miller.
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pdub wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:14 pm
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:55 pm Who started the flopping trend?
Spurs at the mid/end of their run unfortunately.

Ginobli was like Shakespeare.
Harden was like Arthur Miller.
"trend"? Ok, maybe Manny and Jimmy but who is known as the originator and became the "master of deception"? https://vault.si.com/vault/1963/12/09/s ... -deception
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Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
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I have no idea when these videos are from. But two guys spitting facts.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2272591563105688

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1128761825082829


Shawn Kemp says DRod beat them. Not MJ. Maybe he feels DEFENSE wins championships?
Props to Kemp because frankly, I feel he very well may have been the best player in the series.
In order, I'll go Kemp, Jordan, Rodman, Payton, Schrempf, Pippen, Kukoc

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I think I posted this before. If not, it's a pretty good story.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/445546384945373

I think I posted this too. If not, it's a pretty good story too.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1912311902546385



I like what Van Gundy says....

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Air Jordan...

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Scottie Pippen thinking Jordan is better than LeBron.
Hot takes today.
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Steph thinks MJ is the GOAT, for whatever that’s worth
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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