Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

[zsn]

i think you nailed it

though, “stupid” is a big tent

“Stupid” is one of the variables. Downright bigotry and nihilism are other terms in the equation. David Duke was elected to public office, in the late 20th century. MTG is still an elected Representative. The Democrats have literally no chance when that is the make-up of the electorate.

Abolish the Electoral College (or implement the 270 Compact) and see how quickly we bring sanity to the Presidential election process.

[KUTradition]

i think you nailed it

though, “stupid” is a big tent

“Stupid” is one of the variables. Downright bigotry and nihilism are other terms in the equation. David Duke was elected to public office, in the late 20th century. MTG is still an elected Representative. The Democrats have literally no chance when that is the make-up of the electorate.

Abolish the Electoral College (or implement the 270 Compact) and see how quickly we bring sanity to the Presidential election process.

bigotry is definitely on my list of stupidity

[twocoach]

Nancy Mace: I’ll pronounce her [Kamala’s] name however I want…

jfc

Several years ago, I started remarking that we are so lucky that the captain at the controls of the terrifying machine the Rs had fashioned was as dumb and non-principled as Trump.

Now, whether it’s Trump or others, what fortune we have that, as far as this campaign now goes, the Rs don’t seem capable of running a two-car funeral if you spotted them the hearse.

What does that say about the Dems - that it's as close of a race as it is?
Other than people are stoopid.

I don't think it says anything good about Dems other than that there aren't enough of them comparatively. Check back in 20 years when a huge chunk of Republican boomers dies off.

[Sparko]

Boomers are supporting Kamala now too by a few percentage points. That is game over if it holds. I expect it to grow.

[Shirley]

Several years ago, I started remarking that we are so lucky that the captain at the controls of the terrifying machine the Rs had fashioned was as dumb and non-principled as Trump.

Now, whether it’s Trump or others, what fortune we have that, as far as this campaign now goes, the Rs don’t seem capable of running a two-car funeral if you spotted them the hearse.

What does that say about the Dems - that it's as close of a race as it is?
Other than people are stoopid.

I don't think it says anything good about Dems other than that there aren't enough of them comparatively. Check back in 20 years when a huge chunk of Republican boomers dies off.

Quintessential Gutter.

It's not the racists who want to keep people of color down and the religious fanatics who want to cram religion down everyone's throat while they get rid of public education and make us pay their religious schools, the good Christian men who want to keep women in their place by taking away their rights by abolishing contraception, abortion, and ending no-fault marriage. It's not the violent seditionists who can't accept they're in the minority and lose elections, so instead they suppress the rights of others to vote and when that doesn't work they cheat more, and when that doesn't work they support a guy he tried to pull off a coup when he lost in 2020 and who says he'll be a dictator and we ought to abolish the constitution. It's not the afraid-of-their-own-shadow cowards who can't feel comfortable merely co-existing in the world with everyone else unless they're carrying enough fire power to kill 50 people in one minute, the people who want to roll over and let Putin invade countries that rely on us, to bring them back under Russian control, the people who ignored the warming planet for decades, and resisted the simplest of public health measures during the pandemic on the theory it would be in the best interests of their fellow Americans, because their cult leader told them to.

But, "the Dems".

[twocoach]

"Flood the zone with shit" has made a lot of people nose blind to the stench of the GOP.

[zsn]

What does that say about the Dems - that it's as close of a race as it is?
Other than people are stoopid.

I don't think it says anything good about Dems other than that there aren't enough of them comparatively. Check back in 20 years when a huge chunk of Republican boomers dies off.

Quintessential Gutter.

It's not the racists who want to keep people of color down and the religious fanatics who want to cram religion down everyone's throat while they get rid of public education and make us pay their religious schools, the good Christian men who want to keep women in their place by taking away their rights by abolishing contraception, abortion, and ending no-fault marriage. It's not the violent seditionists who can't accept they're in the minority and lose elections, so instead they suppress the rights of others to vote and when that doesn't work they cheat more, and when that doesn't work they support a guy he tried to pull off a coup when he lost in 2020 and who says he'll be a dictator and we ought to abolish the constitution. It's not the afraid-of-their-own-shadow cowards who can't feel comfortable merely co-existing in the world with everyone else unless they're carrying enough fire power to kill 50 people in one minute, the people who want to roll over and let Putin invade countries that rely on us, to bring them back under Russian control, the people who ignored the warming planet for decades, and resisted the simplest of public health measures during the pandemic on the theory it would be in the best interests of their fellow Americans, because their cult leader told them to.

But, "the Dems".

POTY!!!

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

What does that say about the Dems - that it's as close of a race as it is?
Other than people are stoopid.

I don't think it says anything good about Dems other than that there aren't enough of them comparatively. Check back in 20 years when a huge chunk of Republican boomers dies off.

Quintessential Gutter.

It's not the racists who want to keep people of color down and the religious fanatics who want to cram religion down everyone's throat while they get rid of public education and make us pay their religious schools, the good Christian men who want to keep women in their place by taking away their rights by abolishing contraception, abortion, and ending no-fault marriage. It's not the violent seditionists who can't accept they're in the minority and lose elections, so instead they suppress the rights of others to vote and when that doesn't work they cheat more, and when that doesn't work they support a guy he tried to pull off a coup when he lost in 2020 and who says he'll be a dictator and we ought to abolish the constitution. It's not the afraid-of-their-own-shadow cowards who can't feel comfortable merely co-existing in the world with everyone else unless they're carrying enough fire power to kill 50 people in one minute, the people who want to roll over and let Putin invade countries that rely on us, to bring them back under Russian control, the people who ignored the warming planet for decades, and resisted the simplest of public health measures during the pandemic on the theory it would be in the best interests of their fellow Americans, because their cult leader told them to.

But, "the Dems".

Sorry, I am not understanding the "Quintessential Gutter" part of your post.

The "Other than people are stoopid" part of my post was mostly in reference to Pubs that you make reference/s to in your post above.
The fact that the race is as close as it is - is three fold to me.

1. I feel the Dems could trot out the best political candidate of all time and it still would be a close race....
2. .....Because we have an overabundance of dumb fuck whack jobs in this country who care less about the person they are electing and more about the shit they choose to believe (and not believe) and the spell they are under.....
3. ..... Which leads me back to what is the better political strategy for the Dems - Get people to vote for the Black/Indian/White Woman primarily because she's not Donald Trump - or get people to vote for the Woman who has been our Vice President for the past almost 4 years and can (and possibly will) (at least want to) do a. b. c. d. e. f. g. h. i. j. k. l. m. n. o. p. q. r. s. t. u. v. w. x. y. z. for our country.
Nice thing is it seems about even right now.

[KUTradition]

When I first saw this I thought to myself that it is a bad parody.

I'll respectfully disagree with Trad and go ahead and say - To me, I don't feel it's so "good", "clever", or "witty", and I do feel it's at least kind of "dumb".
It reeks of stooping down to a sophomoric tone and something that seems more typical Republican than Democratic to me.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/1 ... s-00174470

[twocoach]

Agreed. Everyone is playing the same game with the same rules. Call the nonsense bullshit for what it is.

It's laughable what the GOP shitshow is doing so why not laugh at them.

[Back2Lawrence]

I think there should be a response in kind, but also a statement (proclamation) that although the same game is being played, it is being done so to different ends, with the ultimate goal of unifying thought instead of further fragmentation.

Perhaps we are already too far gone, in practice, delivery, sentiment, and process of thought to think a reduction of the chasm between ideologies could be achieved for a common good. But I still dream.

[Sparko]

I think there should be a response in kind, but also a statement (proclamation) that although the same game is being played, it is being done so to different ends, with the ultimate goal of unifying thought instead of further fragmentation.

Perhaps we are already too far gone, in practice, delivery, sentiment, and process of thought to think a reduction of the chasm between ideologies could be achieved for a common good. But I still dream.

But repudiating Trump and his ridiculously predictable idiotic schtick is part of getting people back together. He is not party of unity. People have to be shown the truth. He is not interested at all in comity.

[Back2Lawrence]

Right, that’s the response in kind. It should be hard hitting and fact checked before entered into to be above (rational) recuse.


Again, this should not be done in a vacuum.

[KUTradition]

if you listen to some of the regulars at trump’s rally’s, in addition to likely taking on a bit of depression about humanity in general, you’ll also quickly realize that there are plenty out there that are too far gone for rehabilitation

[Back2Lawrence]

if you listen to some of the regulars at trump’s rally’s, in addition to likely taking on a bit of depression about humanity in general, you’ll also quickly realize that there are plenty out there that are too far gone for rehabilitation

Unfortunately, that’s not entirely one-sided. Can’t focus on fringe elements, though, other than to neutralize and reposition away from your own sect of such folk. I’m not a proponent of the whole, ‘ yeah, but other kids’ type argument. At the end of the day, one’s own moral compass is one’s own, and as long as the dems don’t allow themselves to get bullied, which again, is the respond in mind phrasing, I’m good with it.

[Back2Lawrence]

And for the record, I’ve been watching trump’s penn rally today.

And like Leonard’s (from The Big Bang Theory) mom says when she orgasms, ‘yikes’.

[KUTradition]

if you listen to some of the regulars at trump’s rally’s, in addition to likely taking on a bit of depression about humanity in general, you’ll also quickly realize that there are plenty out there that are too far gone for rehabilitation

Unfortunately, that’s not entirely one-sided. Can’t focus on fringe elements, though, other than to neutralize and reposition away from your own sect of such folk. I’m not a proponent of the whole, ‘ yeah, but other kids’ type argument. At the end of the day, one’s own moral compass is one’s own, and as long as the dems don’t allow themselves to get bullied, which again, is the respond in mind phrasing, I’m good with it.

nothing to do with morals

it’s detachment from facts, and i get your point, but there’s crazy based off of differences of opinion and then there’s crazy based on complete falsehoods

[KUTradition]

And for the record, I’ve been watching trump’s penn rally today.

And like Leonard’s (from The Big Bang Theory) mom says when she orgasms, ‘yikes’.

i watched 10 minutes, which was enough to know it’s more of the same carnival barker nonsense

[Back2Lawrence]

if you listen to some of the regulars at trump’s rally’s, in addition to likely taking on a bit of depression about humanity in general, you’ll also quickly realize that there are plenty out there that are too far gone for rehabilitation

Unfortunately, that’s not entirely one-sided. Can’t focus on fringe elements, though, other than to neutralize and reposition away from your own sect of such folk. I’m not a proponent of the whole, ‘ yeah, but other kids’ type argument. At the end of the day, one’s own moral compass is one’s own, and as long as the dems don’t allow themselves to get bullied, which again, is the respond in mind phrasing, I’m good with it.

nothing to do with morals

it’s detachment from facts, and i get your point, but there’s crazy based off of differences of opinion and then there’s crazy based on complete falsehoods

Ii get what you are saying too, but it all points back to personal choices on how to respond to situations, which, I believe, when confronting those with whom we don’t don’t agree has a lot to do with one’s own morals. In this case, the compass of the Dem party, as a whole.

Like I said, respond in kind to the fact less claims, but don’t so with a strong moral fiber, or with truths you can defend.

I don’t mean respond in kind by being fact less, if that’s how you are reading what I’m saying. Go for the jugular with personal attacks, but make them substantive and truth based, while at the same time dismantling their untruths.

I’m pretty sure we are saying about the same thing, just in slightly different fashion, and I don’t care to continue this conversation, so I’ll just finish my piece by saying I hope she fucks him up at first debate, but hopefully equally she doesn’t succumb to a simple mudslinging exercise.

[ousdahl]

Finally pandering to that Qusdahl vote