Another mass shooting

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That pic is a summation of what she was. Never a lap she didn’t like!

And in the spirit of this thread, a good capture of her thumb, which definitely allowed her to have bona fide murder mittens.
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WTF. Four kids shot (11 to 14) while joy riding in a stolen car.

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jhawks99 wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:06 am WTF. Four kids shot (11 to 14) while joy riding in a stolen car.

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"WTF", is right. ...“I think, in a lot of ways, we are failing to deter this activity,” he said. “Two of the five juveniles involved in this incident were arrested not even two weeks ago for being in a stolen car.”...

That reminds me of a program I was listening to called "The World" on NPR about how Swedish society is more prone to violence than Danish. So, Danish gangs that want to commit crimes, including kill other Danes, contact Swedish gangs, and the Swedish gangs recruit young Swedes by offering them a relatively large amount of $, then equip them and get them to Denmark to commit the crimes: (I was riding my bike and joined the story in progress at the time, so...)

Denmark’s violent crime rates have been rising, and a significant portion of it is committed by teens from Sweden. The two countries have decided to work together on law enforcement. Swedish police officers will set up shop in Denmark and work on preventing the import of violent crime to Danish streets. Diamant Salihu, a crime reporter for the Swedish news broadcaster, SVT, talks about the origins of this crime and the methods Denmark and Sweden are using to control it.
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https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
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"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:31 pm https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
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"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.
1 - render government ineffective
2 - blame government for being ineffective
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:27 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:31 pm https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
...
"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.
1 - render government ineffective
2 - blame government for being ineffective
Feels like it.

"Just uphold the gun laws that are already on the books and we're good" only works until the police and military look the other way when one of their own appears to be a problem.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:34 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:27 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:31 pm https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
...
"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.
1 - render government ineffective
2 - blame government for being ineffective
Feels like it.

"Just uphold the gun laws that are already on the books and we're good" only works until the police and military look the other way when one of their own appears to be a problem.
And conversely, and also very much perversely, you know the lobbies of the world will use the failure of these "yellow flag" laws as evidence that such laws don't work and shouldn't be adopted, let alone enforced.

How do we know this?

Think about, for example, how goddamn GIDDY some of them get when there's a mass knifing.
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Knives don't kill people, whetstones kill people. Damned Middle Ages.
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4 people shot and killed on the Blue Line (train) in Chicago this morning. My relatives took the Blue Line to O'Hare last night.

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Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.
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I am not - other than here anyway - following on social media. I would imagine it's only a matter of time before some rube calls this a false flag operation intended to improve Harris' position in Georgia.
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And the common thread between all the shooters; they don’t have a conscience.
How do you round’em all up? You can’t.
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I would not agree that that is the common thread at all (that would be the guns). I’m not even sure it is a common thread; I think many mass shooters have had consciences.
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jhawks99 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.
Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:41 pm
jhawks99 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.
Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.
(I would ask someone who thinks that guards and hardened entries and so on are the answer, and who also criticizes any manner of government spending, how we’re going to pay for very expensive things that are largely needed because there are simply too many guns held by too many people who shouldn’t have them.)
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:56 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:41 pm
jhawks99 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.
Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.
(I would ask someone who thinks that guards and hardened entries and so on are the answer, and who also criticizes any manner of government spending, how we’re going to pay for very expensive things that are largely needed because there are simply too many guns held by too many people who shouldn’t have them.)
I'm sure randy has the answers.
After he tells us that school shootings are our government's masterplan and are funded by Larry Fink.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:56 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:41 pm
jhawks99 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.
Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.
(I would ask someone who thinks that guards and hardened entries and so on are the answer, and who also criticizes any manner of government spending, how we’re going to pay for very expensive things that are largely needed because there are simply too many guns held by too many people who shouldn’t have them.)
This is easily solved with good old American volunteerism. I am sure the Hell's Angels and Proud Boys would be happy to provide security at the schools and share their love of the Second Amendment.

And the police released the name and age of the suspect. 14 year old Colt Gray. I know we are all thinking the same thing, the kid is probably an illegal immigrant.
One student told a reporter for Fox 5 Atlanta that he initially thought the gunshots were fake until he heard screaming. He described being evacuated from the building and seeing a body in one of the rooms. “There was a gun lying on the ground, with the bullets and the blood,” he said.

“They prepare you for these things,” a 15-year-old girl told the New York Times. “But in the moment, I started crying. I got nervous.”
Kids today; too soft, getting nervous during a shooting after all those years of school shooting training? We just need to arm all of the kids in every school as a deterrent.
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"Colt"?

Sounds confused about his biological identity. Is he a horse that identifies as people?

So many questions.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:00 pm "Colt"?

Sounds confused about his biological identity. Is he a horse that identifies as people?

So many questions.
Young white male.
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japhy wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:57 pm And the police released the name and age of the suspect. 14 year old Colt Gray. I know we are all thinking the same thing, the kid is probably an illegal immigrant.
I laughed. (really just a disguised coping mechanism)
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