We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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The best news of the day, for the future of the world, is that this jackass is (so far anyway) refusing to drop out of the NC governor race.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:35 pm The best news of the day, for the future of the world, is that this jackass is (so far anyway) refusing to drop out of the NC governor race.
^^^

I'm pulling for him to continue to hold out!
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Shirley wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:57 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:35 pm The best news of the day, for the future of the world, is that this jackass is (so far anyway) refusing to drop out of the NC governor race.
^^^

I'm pulling for him to continue to hold out!
The more people that go to the ballot box in NC to vote THAT Republican out, the better. It can't hurt Harris' chance to win NC for sure.

What's sad is that I don't know if this info means that Robinson's political career is over or if he will be the 2028 GOP nominee for President.
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Shirley wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:24 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:09 pm Coo, coo, ca-choo, Markie Robinson......
WTF?
ALLEDGEDLY......
"I'm a Black Nazi"
“I’d take Hitler over any of the sh*t that’s in Washington right now!”
“I like watching tranny on girl porn! That’s f*cking hot! It takes the man out while leaving the man in!”
“and the moral of this story….. Don’t f**k a white b*tch!”
“Get that f*cking commie bastard off the National Mall!,”
“I’m not in the KKK. They don’t let blacks join. If I was in the KKK I would have called him Martin Lucifer Koon!”
“Slavery is not bad. Some people need to be slaves. I wish they would bring it (slavery) back. I would certainly buy a few.”
“That’s sum ole sick a** f*ggot bullsh*t!”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics ... index.html
WRONG!

MLK at this finest....

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234984155/
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Mark Robinson Proves—Again—That the Republican Party Is a Failed State

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/mark-robin ... inthat-the
I don’t get what the big deal is.

He’s just an honest, God-fearing man who loves guns, America, and watching dudes go to town on chicks with dicks.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But there are two important points to discuss concerning Mark Robinson.

First: Why were yesterday’s revelations supposed to be so damning? Robinson exists in a context in which every one of his supposed sins has been normalized by the Republican party.

He talks about enjoying “tranny” pr0n? That’s just locker-room talk.

He says he’s a “black Nazi”? The Republican presidential nominee invited an actual neo-Nazi to dine with him at his residence.

He bad mouths Martin Luther King, Jr.? That’s just a joke. Look at how it triggers the libs because they hate free speech, what with their cancel culture snowflake blah-blah-blah.

Point is: Why should any of yesterday’s stories about Robinson disqualify him in the minds of Republican voters? There’s nothing new in there. Nothing that they haven’t already excused a dozen times for Donald Trump, or Elon Musk, or Herschel Walker, or Laura Loomer, or any number of others.

Those permission structures are almost a decade old and at this point, they’re less like hidden smuggler trails and more like a 12-lane freeway for rationalization.

The second, and more important point, is this: Why wasn’t the Republican party able to push Mark Robinson aside?

Up until last night, the GOP in North Carolina could have replaced its gubernatorial candidate. Robinson is going to lose this race. He’s going to lose it so badly that he might pull the top of the ticket down with him. And he’s going to lose it dishonorably. He isn’t Barry Goldwater going down to defeat because of his principles.

What happened is that the Republican Party of North Carolina got hijacked by an insane person. And when the fit hit the shan, the NC GOP didn’t have the ability to push this insane person aside.

This is the difference between a healthy institution and a failed institution.

Say what you will about the Democratic party, but it is a healthy institution.

What do I mean by that?

Institutions have power centers and interests. In a healthy institution, these power centers can unite to achieve shared interests, even in difficult moments which require sacrifice.

For instance:

In 2008 Hillary Clinton was the supposed to be the Democratic presidential nominee. But various Democratic power centers coordinated to elevate Barack Obama, who they believed was a better candidate.

In 2016, a Democratic Socialist tried to win the Democratic presidential nomination. The party coordinated to prevent him from doing so.

In 2020, the same Democratic Socialist made another attempt. The party coalesced around Joe Biden and got him elected president.

In 2023, as Republicans went through four nominees to find a speaker of the House, Democrats voted, unanimously, time after time, for Hakeem Jeffries.

And in 2024, when the Democratic party realized that Joe Biden was compromised as a candidate by his health, they convinced him to step aside.

I want to underscore this: The Democratic party was able to convince a sitting president to abandon his reelection attempt four months before November.

And the Republican party can’t push a single arriviste gubernatorial candidate off his spot after he gets clocked calling himself a “black Nazi” who likes watching kinky porn while talking about how he wishes he owned slaves.

This is what I mean when I say that the Republican party is a failed institution.

Will Saletan was the first person to make this observation, way back in January of 2016, when he observed that the Republican party had become a failed state.

If you are a Democrat, this is not cause for celebration.

Failed states are dangerous. They are inherently unstable. They are breeding grounds for extremism. Even if you live in a perfectly well-functioning country, having a failed state on your border is a substantial threat to your security.

In the case of the Republican party, this failed state is not sitting across a border. It is inside the house. It makes up half of our body politic.

If the Republican party had pushed Mark Robinson aside yesterday, it would have increased the party’s chances of winning the gubernatorial election in North Carolina and also increased Donald Trump’s chances of winning the presidency. Which, in the near term, is disadvantageous to the cause of democracy.

But also: It would have been a sign that somewhere inside the GOP, there remained some institutional strength.

No matter how many elections Democrats win, our system cannot survive in the long term with only a single healthy political party. We need either (1) a healthy Republican party, or (2) the GOP to be supplanted by a new, healthy, political institution.

I can’t see how we get to (1) and history shows that (2) is an incredibly heavy lift.

So yes, it’s fun to laugh at Mark Robinson and Republican ineptitude. And his continued candidacy helps Kamala Harris. But at the end of the day, the Republican party’s problems are our problems, too.

Our democracy cannot be safe so long as the Republican party is in disarray.
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I'm not donating the money but if someone paid for me, why wouldn't I go? Other than I might get arrested for some good old fashioned heckling.
Realize Kenilworth was known as a town that "excluded" "Blacks and Jews" when I lived a couple towns over. Now of course they have their tokens.

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so...a north Carolina governor candidate....in Illinois for the purpose of campaigning for Trump in Wisconsin. why?
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TDub wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:49 pm so...a north Carolina governor candidate....in Illinois for the purpose of campaigning for Trump in Wisconsin. why?
Because that's the country we live in today?

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Black Nazi went down to Chicago. ZZ Top 2024.
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Sparko wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:34 pm Black Nazi went down to Chicago. ZZ Top 2024.
?
Kenilworth is pretty much the polar opposite of Chicago.
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Porn website posts reportedly linked to Robinson deleted after CNN story

hmmm…
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:24 am must be fake news

psych, mich, and randi have assured us that it’s the dems who are up to no good
Well, one party obviously is interested in making life better for Americans, while the other is not. It's a simple dichotomy that Dims, among others, don't seem to be able to grasp.
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JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:49 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:24 am must be fake news

psych, mich, and randi have assured us that it’s the dems who are up to no good
Well, one party obviously is interested in making life better for Americans, while the other is not. It's a simple dichotomy that Dims, among others, don't seem to be able to grasp.
The sad thing is you believe that.
Let me help you. In some ways, both parties are interested in making life better for Americans, in other ways, both parties are not interested in making life better for Americans.
Both parties suck and shameful loyalty is the reason why we are in the mess we are in today.
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I would strongly disagree with that last part.
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JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:49 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:24 am must be fake news

psych, mich, and randi have assured us that it’s the dems who are up to no good
Well, one party obviously is interested in making life better for Americans, while the other is not. It's a simple dichotomy that Dims, among others, don't seem to be able to grasp.
The problem is that economists look at Trump's plans and do not believe that his proposals will do what he claims they will and will actually makes them worse.
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twocoach wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:42 am
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:49 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:24 am must be fake news

psych, mich, and randi have assured us that it’s the dems who are up to no good
Well, one party obviously is interested in making life better for Americans, while the other is not. It's a simple dichotomy that Dims, among others, don't seem to be able to grasp.
The problem is that economists look at Trump's plans and do not believe that his proposals will do what he claims they will and will actually makes them worse.
The elites are in the bag for the globalists. You know this. No one will talk about it. But it’s obvious. You just have to know where to look.
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JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:49 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:24 am must be fake news

psych, mich, and randi have assured us that it’s the dems who are up to no good
Well, one party obviously is interested in making life better for Americans, while the other is not. It's a simple dichotomy that Dims, among others, don't seem to be able to grasp.
still name calling i see

hypocrisy is fun!!
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:37 am
Sparko wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:34 pm Black Nazi went down to Chicago. ZZ Top 2024.
?
Kenilworth is pretty much the polar opposite of Chicago.
Black Nazi done left Chicago. Headed for Kenilworth.

Blues.
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Sparko wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:26 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:37 am
Sparko wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:34 pm Black Nazi went down to Chicago. ZZ Top 2024.
?
Kenilworth is pretty much the polar opposite of Chicago.
Black Nazi done left Chicago. Headed for Kenilworth.

Blues.
My father used to jam this on the drums. Seriously.
For reference,Winnetka is the town next to Kenilworth.



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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:58 am
JKLivin wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:49 am
KUTradition wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:24 am must be fake news

psych, mich, and randi have assured us that it’s the dems who are up to no good
Well, one party obviously is interested in making life better for Americans, while the other is not. It's a simple dichotomy that Dims, among others, don't seem to be able to grasp.
The sad thing is you believe that.
Let me help you. In some ways, both parties are interested in making life better for Americans, in other ways, both parties are not interested in making life better for Americans.
Both parties suck and shameful loyalty is the reason why we are in the mess we are in today.
Both parties are selling us out to the WEF; Trump is on neither side, hence the assassination attempts and the lawfare and the general skullduggery. He is the last barrier between us and becoming a Third World craphole, and you and your boys are clamoring for it. That’s the sad part.
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