Foreign aid to ukraine

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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:14 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:59 pm So kamala is only giving Americans affected by the hurricane 750 bucks...... lol

To those "who truly need it"

Meanwhile this administration has done over 200 billion in aid for democrats

And how much are illegals getting monthly in different states around the country

And people wonder who a guy like trump ended up popular? Because that is what he is running against

Wait wait wait. I'm having trouble keeping up. I have a bunch of questions.
1. What are you talking about when you say, "Kamala is only giving Americans affected by the hurricane 750 bucks?
2. What is "lol" about it?
3. What are you talking about when you say, "Meanwhile this administration has done over 200 billion in aid for democrats"?
4. What does your political affiliation have to do with your receiving hurricane relief money?
5. I don't know, how much are illegals getting? The Jew in me on Rosh Hashana is saying they are getting too much. The Christian in me on Rosh Hashana is saying not enough. Or is it the other way around? This religion, and "offerings", and immigration/migration/illegals/whatever people are wrongly and rightfully labeling them, shit, gets me really confused.
6. What the fuck does "And people wonder who a guy like trump ended up popular?" mean ?
$700 is the amount of the one-time "Critical Needs Assistance" that you can get from FEMA. It is designed for the quick stuff you need immediately such as gas, water, clothes, etc.... It is not the ONLY money that hurricane victims will eventually get. There are a lot of other FEMA programs and assistance available beyond that but that would ruin dipshits rant.

Just a reminder that House Republicans refused to meet the full needs of disaster funding in the stopgap they passed one week ago:

https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmake ... ap-bill-2/

"But some lawmakers from disaster-prone states — on both sides of the aisle — were aghast this week at the lack of additional dollars for FEMA’s already depleted disaster relief fund and other federal disaster programs. Many of them were incensed that the typically bipartisan priority had fallen victim to partisan squabbles at such a dire time.

Indeed, as the House and Senate’s top four leaders met last weekend to negotiate a deal to keep the government funded, they were forced to acquiesce to the demands of Congress’ most conservative fiscal hawks, whose votes were thought to be pivotal for passage. They quietly stripped the CR of almost all supplemental funding, including for FEMA, according to multiple House appropriators."

So once again, Randy tries to knock Kamala Harris and ends up accidentally drawing attention to the ineptitude and heartlessness of Congressional Republicans. Well done, Randy, you're the best advertisement for Harris so far today!
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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:36 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:31 pm
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Piles of demons? No wonder you like the group of weirdos so much.
Sometimes pure evil comes disguised as stupid.
Good grief, you're still being duped into the "good vs. evil" shtick by MAGAstream media? What a rube.
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Fema is broke cause they spent that money on fucking illegals
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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:46 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:14 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:59 pm So kamala is only giving Americans affected by the hurricane 750 bucks...... lol

To those "who truly need it"

Meanwhile this administration has done over 200 billion in aid for democrats

And how much are illegals getting monthly in different states around the country

And people wonder who a guy like trump ended up popular? Because that is what he is running against

Wait wait wait. I'm having trouble keeping up. I have a bunch of questions.
1. What are you talking about when you say, "Kamala is only giving Americans affected by the hurricane 750 bucks?
2. What is "lol" about it?
3. What are you talking about when you say, "Meanwhile this administration has done over 200 billion in aid for democrats"?
4. What does your political affiliation have to do with your receiving hurricane relief money?
5. I don't know, how much are illegals getting? The Jew in me on Rosh Hashana is saying they are getting too much. The Christian in me on Rosh Hashana is saying not enough. Or is it the other way around? This religion, and "offerings", and immigration/migration/illegals/whatever people are wrongly and rightfully labeling them, shit, gets me really confused.
6. What the fuck does "And people wonder who a guy like trump ended up popular?" mean ?
$700 is the amount of the one-time "Critical Needs Assistance" that you can get from FEMA. It is designed for the quick stuff you need immediately such as gas, water, clothes, etc.... It is not the ONLY money that hurricane victims will eventually get. There are a lot of other FEMA programs and assistance available beyond that but that would ruin dipshits rant.

Just a reminder that House Republicans refused to meet the full needs of disaster funding in the stopgap they passed one week ago:

https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmake ... ap-bill-2/

"But some lawmakers from disaster-prone states — on both sides of the aisle — were aghast this week at the lack of additional dollars for FEMA’s already depleted disaster relief fund and other federal disaster programs. Many of them were incensed that the typically bipartisan priority had fallen victim to partisan squabbles at such a dire time.

Indeed, as the House and Senate’s top four leaders met last weekend to negotiate a deal to keep the government funded, they were forced to acquiesce to the demands of Congress’ most conservative fiscal hawks, whose votes were thought to be pivotal for passage. They quietly stripped the CR of almost all supplemental funding, including for FEMA, according to multiple House appropriators."

So once again, Randy tries to knock Kamala Harris and ends up accidentally drawing attention to the ineptitude and heartlessness of Congressional Republicans. Well done, Randy, you're the best advertisement for Harris so far today!
Thank you for the response and clarification.
randy saying "Kamala is only giving Americans affected by the hurricane 750 bucks" was another example of randy being randy. Go figure.
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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:20 pm Fema is broke cause they spent that money on fucking illegals
I thought FEMA spent all their money on transgender operations for MS 13 eeeleeggles.
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FEMA literally spent a billion of their budget housing illegals. And now when a disaster hits Americans, they are struggling their budget.

This free ride for illegals shit needs to end. Our country is broke and can't afford it. And it's coming at the expense of actual citizens
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The continued incentivizing of illegal immigration is the democrats downfall. We all know their longterm plan was to turn the illegals into future votes. But they pissed off and screwed over too many Americans in the process
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:30 pm
Overlander wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:09 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:57 pm

Good one!
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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:09 pm FEMA literally spent a billion of their budget housing illegals. And now when a disaster hits Americans, they are struggling their budget.

This free ride for illegals shit needs to end. Our country is broke and can't afford it. And it's coming at the expense of actual citizens
Elon Musk wipes his ass with billion dollar bills.
Imagine if Musk that immigrant, who along with his brother boasted that they were "illegals" when they were first living in this country, decided to fund a program to better assist "illegals" who are here wanting to be productive members of society, and also sift through the "murderers, and rapists. and drug dealers. and the worst of the worst" and get them the fuck out of our country. He could do it if he wanted to.

Imagine if Musk was generous enough to say you know what, I'm worth several (if not more) hundreds of billions of dollars, why don't I take some money and be a hero and make sure all the people randy feels are not getting enough government money - get money.

I am not a fan of "free rides for illegals" but I'm not someone who looks at just one aspect of complicated situations and only focuses on only that one side.....
You say "our country is broke". When in your lifetime has the country not been "broke"? How much did you bitch about it when you were 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30 years old?
What that our government pays for doesn't come at the expense of actual citizens?

P.S. You partially answered one of my 6 questions that I asked last night but you didn't answer the other 5. I'm curious, why not?
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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:20 pm Fema is broke cause they spent that money on fucking illegals
I know this might not make landfall here, but (a) the R-controlled House controls the budget, and (b) a very well-established R play is (1) break government and (2) blame government for not working.
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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:09 pm FEMA literally spent a billion of their budget housing illegals. And now when a disaster hits Americans, they are struggling their budget.

This free ride for illegals shit needs to end. Our country is broke and can't afford it. And it's coming at the expense of actual citizens
Those are two different buckets of money in the budget. That's how it works. I provided you the report on exactly why the Critical Needs Assistance bucket has less in it than it needs.... it is because of budget hawk GOP Congressional members who decided not to fully fund it a week ago in the stopgap budget agreement.

But once again, you choose instead to lie when there is no need to do so. All it does is make your argument more feeble and meaningless. That's why people can't take you seriously even on the rare occasion you make a valid argument.

You're like a toddler who keeps swearing that they brushed their teeth, even when you stand there showing them their bone dry toothbrush.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:39 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:20 pm Fema is broke cause they spent that money on fucking illegals
I know this might not make landfall here, but (a) the R-controlled House controls the budget, and (b) a very well-established R play is (1) break government and (2) blame government for not working.
I have an issue with government spending in general. I'm not blaming one side, there's corruption rooted within both parties
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randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:06 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:39 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:20 pm Fema is broke cause they spent that money on fucking illegals
I know this might not make landfall here, but (a) the R-controlled House controls the budget, and (b) a very well-established R play is (1) break government and (2) blame government for not working.
I have an issue with government spending in general. I'm not blaming one side, there's corruption rooted within both parties
One way to reduce FEMA disaster relief spending would be to stop pretending climate change isn't real.
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randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:06 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:39 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:20 pm Fema is broke cause they spent that money on fucking illegals
I know this might not make landfall here, but (a) the R-controlled House controls the budget, and (b) a very well-established R play is (1) break government and (2) blame government for not working.
I have an issue with government spending in general. I'm not blaming one side, there's corruption rooted within both parties
You can either admit that climate change issues are real and start spending money at the front end to help reduce the infrastructure that is prone to being destroyed by the inevitable weather issues like this or spend an order of magnitude higher to clean it up and rebuild it after the fact. The decision to do nothing and spend nothing up front is a decision that has consequences that are typically more expensive in the end.

This isn't a new concept or unique to the government. I watch project all the time where the business unit tries to save money up front, only to have it cost them more in the long run. "Pay me now or pay me later" is a tried and true slogan for a reason.

It's sad/funny that all these Republican cities and states are suddenly big fans of Big Government and socialism now that they need help. Fortunately Biden and Harris aren't soulless ghouls and won't withhold funds for political reasons like Donald Trump did.
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twocoach wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:32 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:06 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:39 am

I know this might not make landfall here, but (a) the R-controlled House controls the budget, and (b) a very well-established R play is (1) break government and (2) blame government for not working.
I have an issue with government spending in general. I'm not blaming one side, there's corruption rooted within both parties
You can either admit that climate change issues are real and start spending money at the front end to help reduce the infrastructure that is prone to being destroyed by the inevitable weather issues like this or spend an order of magnitude higher to clean it up and rebuild it after the fact. The decision to do nothing and spend nothing up front is a decision that has consequences that are typically more expensive in the end.

This isn't a new concept or unique to the government. I watch project all the time where the business unit tries to save money up front, only to have it cost them more in the long run. "Pay me now or pay me later" is a tried and true slogan for a reason.

It's sad/funny that all these Republican cities and states are suddenly big fans of Big Government and socialism now that they need help. Fortunately Biden and Harris aren't soulless ghouls and won't withhold funds for political reasons like Donald Trump did.
And of course, this is another area that gives lie to the notion that "traditional conservatives" are better at managing money. We should be using our immense resource advantage to spend smartly on mitigation and adaptation on the front end, because we CAN.

Instead, we don't, because we're not (right now, anyway) capable of the kind of collective problem-solving (and, yes, willingness to make personal sacrifices) that used to be our hallmark.
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Humans are definitely having a negative impact on the environment. I'm don't think any reasonable person is going to try to deny that. Is it spiraling out of control? No. Are fossil fuels the main driver of it? No. Animal agriculture is. Deforestation is a major factor too. Fossil fuels actually helps prevent further deforestation, since burning wood was a major source of energy before fossil fuels.

On a geological scale, earth is in a relatively moderate place. There's been periods much warmer and with much more co2 in the air.

Should we be consciously taking steps to improve our impact? Absolutely

Is increasing our taxes and letting government control energy the solution? Fuckkkkkk no absolutely not
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randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:43 am Humans are definitely having a negative impact on the environment. I'm don't think any reasonable person is going to try to deny that. Is it spiraling out of control? No. Are fossil fuels the main driver of it? No. Animal agriculture is. Deforestation is a major factor too. Fossil fuels actually helps prevent further deforestation, since burning wood was a major source of energy before fossil fuels.

On a geological scale, earth is in a relatively moderate place. There's been periods much warmer and with much more co2 in the air.

Should we be consciously taking steps to improve our impact? Absolutely

Is increasing our taxes and letting government control energy the solution? Fuckkkkkk no absolutely not
This is simply an echo of the it's-everything-BUT-the-guns buffoonery.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:45 am
randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:43 am Humans are definitely having a negative impact on the environment. I'm don't think any reasonable person is going to try to deny that. Is it spiraling out of control? No. Are fossil fuels the main driver of it? No. Animal agriculture is. Deforestation is a major factor too. Fossil fuels actually helps prevent further deforestation, since burning wood was a major source of energy before fossil fuels.

On a geological scale, earth is in a relatively moderate place. There's been periods much warmer and with much more co2 in the air.

Should we be consciously taking steps to improve our impact? Absolutely

Is increasing our taxes and letting government control energy the solution? Fuckkkkkk no absolutely not
This is simply an echo of the it's-everything-BUT-the-guns buffoonery.
It's not, completely unrelatd. Animal agriculture is the driving force of humanity's destructive ways. Significantly more impactful than fossil fuels. Do your research

Deforestation globally also has a huge impact. In the United states, we've actually regrown our forests in recent times. But globally... not the case. If you look at areas like the Amazon rainforest, or Indonesia, the large scale deforestation has really hurt how quickly co2 is pulled from the atmosphere

Plastics is a big driving force of "climate change" the need to make all these disposable plastics leads to large scale deforestation in poor countries in tropical areas, to make room for palm tree farms to make plastics. The oils in our processed foods are another big one


So why do fossil fuels always get blamed? It's political. It's a means to control and tax revenue
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But yes I realize fossil fuels do have SOME impact, before you go there. It's actually why I used to always vote democrat in earlier elections. At one point I beleived they cared about the environment. But that's just a bullshit narrative to dupe people into voting their way and giving them more power
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