Kansas professor goes viral

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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:40 am
pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:22 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:58 am
But the fact that you have to exaggerate, twist and distort what he said, in order to make the points you want to make, weakens those points.
It's quite possible ( likely even ) that he didn't watch the video before directly coming here for a 'gotchya' moment. He just read the headline on whatever garbage feed he has zombie-brain-locked into and got all excited to share.
Watched it. Would have posted it in my original post but some of you would cry "spam" since it's not refuttable
If you watched it, then why did you misrepresent it?
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"truth" is only the "truth." if it's what i want to hear.

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MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:44 am "truth" is only the "truth." if it's what i want to hear.

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You are demonstrating the exact purpose of flooding the zone with shit.
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pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:42 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:40 am By the way.. the video of a person cutting up a dog in front of a complex in Springfield ohio... that you locked. Has it been debunked? All I did was ask if it was in fact the proof people were waiting to surface
I know what you were trying to do. Everyone here does. We aren't stupid.
Don't pretend like we are.
Trying to tell the truth?!?

Damn him and his ilk!
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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:24 am For saying men who won't vote a certain way should be "lined up and shot". He said this during a lecture to his class. Anyone know his name or what he teaches? Never been so embarrassed for our university
Just saw the video. He 100% did NOT say that "men who won't vote a certain way should be "lined up and shot". Fuck off, liar.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:44 am "truth" is only the "truth." if it's what i want to hear.

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He did not state the truth. Now that I have seen the actual statement, he completely misrepresented it.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:06 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:44 am "truth" is only the "truth." if it's what i want to hear.

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He did not state the truth. Now that I have seen the actual statement, he completely misrepresented it.
Don't worry, JD has told him that it's fine to create stories to bring attention to issues.
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:49 am
pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:42 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:40 am By the way.. the video of a person cutting up a dog in front of a complex in Springfield ohio... that you locked. Has it been debunked? All I did was ask if it was in fact the proof people were waiting to surface
I know what you were trying to do. Everyone here does. We aren't stupid.
Don't pretend like we are.
Trying to tell the truth?!?

Damn him and his ilk!
We don't know if the video is staged. We don't know if that man is haitian. We don't know if that's recent. We don't know if that's in Ohio. We don't know what animal that is.

If it turns out that in fact that is a recent video of a haitian migrant in Springfield Ohio cutting up someone's pet then I will apologize and allow it to be posted.

Until then, don't spam the bored.
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Exact words "we could line all those guys up and shoot them"

Is that really much different? Why the hell would a professor make a comment like that to a class? Especially in reference to an election about to happen. It was a dumb thing to say and we all know it. And he knew he fucked up the moment he said it. What class was he even supposed to be teaching
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It is different than what you posted.
The professor shouldn't have said that, we all are in agreement.

I don't like immediate firings just because of things that were said ( of course to a degree ) -- I think people should calm down on words being the end all -- I'd think that someone like you would agree.

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pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:10 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:49 am
pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:42 am

I know what you were trying to do. Everyone here does. We aren't stupid.
Don't pretend like we are.
Trying to tell the truth?!?

Damn him and his ilk!
We don't know if the video is staged. We don't know if that man is haitian. We don't know if that's recent. We don't know if that's in Ohio. We don't know what animal that is.

If it turns out that in fact that is a recent video of a haitian migrant in Springfield Ohio cutting up someone's pet then I will apologize and allow it to be posted.

Until then, don't spam the bored.
I get that. Fair enough.
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randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:14 pm Exact words "we could line all those guys up and shoot them"

Is that really much different? Why the hell would a professor make a comment like that to a class? Especially in reference to an election about to happen. It was a dumb thing to say and we all know it. And he knew he fucked up the moment he said it. What class was he even supposed to be teaching
Yes, it's really different than what you posted. Yes, it was flippant and dumb. No, it was not anything resembling what you said and implied. As per usual with you.
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pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:10 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:49 am
pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:42 am

I know what you were trying to do. Everyone here does. We aren't stupid.
Don't pretend like we are.
Trying to tell the truth?!?

Damn him and his ilk!
We don't know if the video is staged. We don't know if that man is haitian. We don't know if that's recent. We don't know if that's in Ohio. We don't know what animal that is.

If it turns out that in fact that is a recent video of a haitian migrant in Springfield Ohio cutting up someone's pet then I will apologize and allow it to be posted.

Until then, don't spam the bored.
Probably should never post something like this. Correlation not causation and all of that. Unless we start posting videos of online professors criming too. Then, obviously, they all must be criminals.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:25 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:14 pm Exact words "we could line all those guys up and shoot them"

Is that really much different? Why the hell would a professor make a comment like that to a class? Especially in reference to an election about to happen. It was a dumb thing to say and we all know it. And he knew he fucked up the moment he said it. What class was he even supposed to be teaching
Yes, it's really different than what you posted. Yes, it was flippant and dumb. No, it was not anything resembling what you said and implied. As per usual with you.
Hence, the danger of making these kinds of comments in the classroom. What one person interprets as flippant and dumb, another might interpret as a tone that says "I'm kidding, but I'm really not kidding." It's just better left unsaid in front of a class.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:08 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:06 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:44 am "truth" is only the "truth." if it's what i want to hear.

kcrim
He did not state the truth. Now that I have seen the actual statement, he completely misrepresented it.
Don't worry, JD has told him that it's fine to create stories to bring attention to issues.
I find it funny that the same people who are clamoring for truth keep making these assertions about Vance based on an edited clip of the debate in which his mic was cut off before he could make a valid point, i.e. that these people would not have been here legally but for the slipshod phone app status exemption granted by Brandon/Giggles/Mayorkas/Soros that is causing many of these problems.
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:38 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:25 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:14 pm Exact words "we could line all those guys up and shoot them"

Is that really much different? Why the hell would a professor make a comment like that to a class? Especially in reference to an election about to happen. It was a dumb thing to say and we all know it. And he knew he fucked up the moment he said it. What class was he even supposed to be teaching
Yes, it's really different than what you posted. Yes, it was flippant and dumb. No, it was not anything resembling what you said and implied. As per usual with you.
Hence, the danger of making these kinds of comments in the classroom. What one person interprets as flippant and dumb, another might interpret as a tone that says "I'm kidding, but I'm really not kidding." It's just better left unsaid in front of a class.
The far bigger danger is doing exactly what MICH did here by referencing a video they saw, deliberately changing the words and intent while not providing the full video and passing "their truth" of what they want the message to represent out to potentially an exponentially larger audience than that of who was in the class.
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:40 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:08 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:06 pm

He did not state the truth. Now that I have seen the actual statement, he completely misrepresented it.
Don't worry, JD has told him that it's fine to create stories to bring attention to issues.
I find it funny that the same people who are clamoring for truth keep making these assertions about Vance based on an edited clip of the debate in which his mic was cut off before he could make a valid point, i.e. that these people would not have been here legally but for the slipshod phone app status exemption granted by Brandon/Giggles/Mayorkas/Soros that is causing many of these problems.
Eh, false.

I watched the full video before commenting. Vance's full point was also a complete lie as their use of the phone app to apply for asylum does not immediately grant them legal status. That's bullshit, so either he is lying, too lazy to look up the truth or too stupid to understand the truth. All three are bad.
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pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:17 pm It is different than what you posted.
The professor shouldn't have said that, we all are in agreement.

I don't like immediate firings just because of things that were said ( of course to a degree ) -- I think people should calm down on words being the end all -- I'd think that someone like you would agree.

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I don't think he should be fired, but I think the odds are like 65/35 that he will get fired. What class was he actually teaching?

If he ever says some shit like this again you can't justify keeping him around, but we don't truly know anything about this man's character based on one viral clip. The clip looks horrible, but doesn't mean he is. Obviously he will be sat down and talked to about this incident. Hopefully it ends there and he never brings politics into his lectures again
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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:41 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:38 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:25 pm
Yes, it's really different than what you posted. Yes, it was flippant and dumb. No, it was not anything resembling what you said and implied. As per usual with you.
Hence, the danger of making these kinds of comments in the classroom. What one person interprets as flippant and dumb, another might interpret as a tone that says "I'm kidding, but I'm really not kidding." It's just better left unsaid in front of a class.
The far bigger danger is doing exactly what MICH did here by referencing a video they saw, deliberately changing the words and intent while not providing the full video and passing "their truth" of what they want the message to represent out to potentially an exponentially larger audience than that of who was in the class.
I don't disagree with that; however, it is the reality of the world we live in. Expect it to happen and act accordingly to begin with.
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pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:10 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:49 am
pdub wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:42 am

I know what you were trying to do. Everyone here does. We aren't stupid.
Don't pretend like we are.
Trying to tell the truth?!?

Damn him and his ilk!
We don't know if the video is staged. We don't know if that man is haitian. We don't know if that's recent. We don't know if that's in Ohio. We don't know what animal that is.

If it turns out that in fact that is a recent video of a haitian migrant in Springfield Ohio cutting up someone's pet then I will apologize and allow it to be posted.

Until then, don't spam the bored.
I'll show some respect here. I will say we don't always agree, but I do think you try to do a good job of running a decent board. If I was in your shoes, I'd terminate the politics board lol. Kcrim would be a sports board and that's about it. Running a politics board is bound to be messy, and you seem to be a decent person who wants to let people speak without it getting out of hand. And politics is always bound to get out of hand.

As far as that particular video... I don't necessarily agree with your decision to remove it, but understand why you did. The video appears to be in front of a building located in Springfield, and the person named the building "red coach apartments", which appears to be a real complex in Springfield, and looks to match the building in the background. I did wait a day to see if it would be easily debunked before I posted it over here. So far it hasn't.

Could it he a manipulated or staged video done for political reasons? Absolutely. At this point we don't know, but on the surface level there isn't anything obviously discrediting
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