Indigenous People's Day

[KUTradition]

my parents taught me the excuse “everyone else is doing it” was bullshit when i was like 5

do better

[zsn]

my parents taught me the excuse “everyone else is doing it” was bullshit when i was like 5

do better

Psych has two more years to learn it, then.

[JKLivin]

How would you then describe what happened between, say, 1650-1850, if not using the term “colonization”? “Occupation”? “Ethnic cleansing”? “Apartheid”? “We stole it fair and square”?

Colonization seems to be the most innocuous of all of these!!

The same thing people from Spain, Germany, Holland, Italy, France, and any number of other countries were doing at that time in history?

Dude, it doesn’t matter who was doing it. We’re talking about what we’re calling it, and your taking exception to that. “Stealing and killing” are “stealing and killing” no matter who’s doing the stealing and killing.

I’m taking exception to over- emotionalizing things that were commonplace - and wrong - that happened centuries ago, and were thus done by no one currently living. It can be enough to say “That was bad, and we are doing better today.”

[KUTradition]

jfc

[JKLivin]

jfc

You’re right: what we need in this world is more oUTraGe!

[Sparko]

jfc

You’re right: what we need in this world is more oUTraGe!

No self awareness? Cymbalta

[japhy]

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I really like his work.

[Overlander]

jfc

You’re right: what we need in this world is more oUTraGe!

Do you mean creating outrages over made up problems and dire straights that are simply not there?

Something like, I dunno…”they’re eating the cats”..

[JKLivin]

jfc

You’re right: what we need in this world is more oUTraGe!

Do you mean creating outrages over made up problems and dire straights that are simply not there?

Something like, I dunno…”they’re eating the cats”..

Well, they were/are, so there’s that . . .

[KUTradition]

[JKLivin]

No “giggles”? You’re slipping, Trad.

[KUTradition]

you logged in just to post that?

[Shirley]

my parents taught me the excuse “everyone else is doing it” was bullshit when i was like 5

do better

"I don't give a damn what ____'s parents let him do, you're not going to do _____."

Yours truly,
Shirley's father

[JKLivin]

my parents taught me the excuse “everyone else is doing it” was bullshit when i was like 5

do better

"I don't give a damn what ____'s parents let him do, you're not going to do _____."

Yours truly,
Shirley's father

Where does your dad stand on the issue of holding people accountable for what other people did hundreds of years before they were born?

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

my parents taught me the excuse “everyone else is doing it” was bullshit when i was like 5

do better

"I don't give a damn what ____'s parents let him do, you're not going to do _____."

Yours truly,
Shirley's father

Where does your dad stand on the issue of holding people accountable for what other people did hundreds of years before they were born?

I find this subject and your and other's posts to be very interesting.
Should I go ahead and mark you down as being strongly opposed to reparations (for slavery)? As my guess is most White people are.
On a pretty much unrelated but still historical side note - Do you believe approximately 6 million Jews and at least a million other people were killed in the Holocaust? I'm asking because my guess is at least 25% of Americans don't know and/or don't believe that 6 million Jews were killed. I would guess 10% don't believe the Holocaust happened at all. I would guess at least 10% (over the age of 10) have no idea that the Holocaust ever happened.
Now here is where your question to Shirley comes in to play. I'm asking this to you - What percentage of Americans really don't give a shit about the Holocaust, what percentage feel the Jews should get over it already, and what percentage are actually glad or are at least ok that it happened?

[JKLivin]

"I don't give a damn what ____'s parents let him do, you're not going to do _____."

Yours truly,
Shirley's father

Where does your dad stand on the issue of holding people accountable for what other people did hundreds of years before they were born?

I find this subject and your and other's posts to be very interesting.
Should I go ahead and mark you down as being strongly opposed to reparations (for slavery)? As my guess is most White people are.
On a pretty much unrelated but still historical side note - Do you believe approximately 6 million Jews and at least a million other people were killed in the Holocaust? I'm asking because my guess is at least 25% of Americans don't know and/or don't believe that 6 million Jews were killed. I would guess 10% don't believe the Holocaust happened at all. I would guess at least 10% (over the age of 10) have no idea that the Holocaust ever happened.
Now here is where your question to Shirley comes in to play. I'm asking this to you - What percentage of Americans really don't give a shit about the Holocaust, what percentage feel the Jews should get over it already, and what percentage are actually glad or are at least ok that it happened?

1.) Yes. Strongly opposed.
2.) Yes. I believe the Holocaust happened.
3.) No idea. I would hope the percentage is small.

I'm not denying anything about the atrocities that happened to Native Americans. I am also not suggesting that people "get over" it. I am suggesting that we stop trying to whip up outrage and angst over it. I understand that Columbus Day is insulting to Native Americans, and I am fine with doing away with the holiday altogether. Heck, one less day that my mail isn't delivered and banks are closed is fine with me. By the same token, I don't think we need a designated day to be angry about what happened to the natives.

[KUTradition]

giggles

since my post on the book’s designation being changed, you’re the only one that’s been anything close outraged

[KUTradition]

seems the white man’s history is the only “factual” one, and the only one that matters to some (racists, bigots, xenophobes)

[JKLivin]

giggles

since my post on the book’s designation being changed, you’re the only one that’s been anything close outraged

What book? You lost me.

[KUTradition]

classic…don’t even know what you’re outraged about

do better; your obsession is showing