What happened to the immigration thread?

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"But a key for MAGA brainwashing is to never have details, just scary headlines."

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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:16 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:51 pm
Define "free tuition". If it is thebuniversity who is writing it off then WTF do I care? You don't have to be a US citizen to attend a US university. Nearly half my classmates in my degree were from outside the US. If the University what's to give free tuition to someone from outside the US, I do not care at all.

Healthcare? Same thing. Can't make decisions without more information. But a key for MAGA brainwashing is to never have details, just scary headlines.
1.) It is tuition that could be given to actual citizen students. Still robbing those who should rightfully have it.

2.) Anytime healthcare providers write off services, the actual cost is not absorbed. It is passed right along to suckers like you and me who play by the rules, pay for insurance, and pay our bills. Again, taking from me to give to someone who is breaking the law.
1) so much for your anti-DEI stance. What happened to "the best choice should get it regardless their race/gender/etc..."?
2) Not really. Every healthcare and bank business has an expected amount of write-off built right into their budgets.
1.) Prosperity is a zero-sum game. If you're going to take resources from me, it should be given to someone who deserves it, not someone who stacked the deck by breaking the law.

2.) Having worked in healthcare for nearly 25 years, I can safely say that, when I set my hourly fees, I factor in making sure that I lose the minimum amount with no-shows and chargebacks. That invariably means higher fees for everyone who actually pays. I learned that from working for agencies before striking out on my own. The actual write-off budget is minimal.
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:56 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:16 pm

1.) It is tuition that could be given to actual citizen students. Still robbing those who should rightfully have it.

2.) Anytime healthcare providers write off services, the actual cost is not absorbed. It is passed right along to suckers like you and me who play by the rules, pay for insurance, and pay our bills. Again, taking from me to give to someone who is breaking the law.
1) so much for your anti-DEI stance. What happened to "the best choice should get it regardless their race/gender/etc..."?
2) Not really. Every healthcare and bank business has an expected amount of write-off built right into their budgets.
1.) Prosperity is a zero-sum game. If you're going to take resources from me, it should be given to someone who deserves it, not someone who stacked the deck by breaking the law.

2.) Having worked in healthcare for nearly 25 years, I can safely say that, when I set my hourly fees, I factor in making sure that I lose the minimum amount with no-shows and chargebacks. That invariably means higher fees for everyone who actually pays. I learned that from working for agencies before striking out on my own. The actual write-off budget is minimal.
1) no, it isn't, that's just an incorrect assumption made by selfish people

2) not every system is identical.other places do it differently based on historical trends of the clientele they work with
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:16 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:51 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:41 pm

1.) Note the word “supported,” which differs in meaning from the “authorized,” implied by your response.
2.) Even if we take drivers licenses off the table, the small matter of tuition and healthcare remain.
Define "free tuition". If it is thebuniversity who is writing it off then WTF do I care? You don't have to be a US citizen to attend a US university. Nearly half my classmates in my degree were from outside the US. If the University what's to give free tuition to someone from outside the US, I do not care at all.

Healthcare? Same thing. Can't make decisions without more information. But a key for MAGA brainwashing is to never have details, just scary headlines.
1.) It is tuition that could be given to actual citizen students. Still robbing those who should rightfully have it.

2.) Anytime healthcare providers write off services, the actual cost is not absorbed. It is passed right along to suckers like you and me who play by the rules, pay for insurance, and pay our bills. Again, taking from me to give to someone who is breaking the law.
You know that there are numerous non-citizens who are in the country who are not breaking any laws, right? Learn about what the terms F-1, F-2, J-1 and J-2 mean at US Department of State website.

Also, by your “logic” admitting qualified candidates is unfair to unqualified candidates?
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twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:30 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:56 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:25 pm
1) so much for your anti-DEI stance. What happened to "the best choice should get it regardless their race/gender/etc..."?
2) Not really. Every healthcare and bank business has an expected amount of write-off built right into their budgets.
1.) Prosperity is a zero-sum game. If you're going to take resources from me, it should be given to someone who deserves it, not someone who stacked the deck by breaking the law.

2.) Having worked in healthcare for nearly 25 years, I can safely say that, when I set my hourly fees, I factor in making sure that I lose the minimum amount with no-shows and chargebacks. That invariably means higher fees for everyone who actually pays. I learned that from working for agencies before striking out on my own. The actual write-off budget is minimal.
1) no, it isn't, that's just an incorrect assumption made by selfish people

2) not every system is identical.other places do it differently based on historical trends of the clientele they work with
1.) Disagree. That’s how the real world works, whether you like to admit it or not.
2.) Could be, but I’ve never seen it work that way in healthcare.
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zsn wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:16 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:51 pm
Define "free tuition". If it is thebuniversity who is writing it off then WTF do I care? You don't have to be a US citizen to attend a US university. Nearly half my classmates in my degree were from outside the US. If the University what's to give free tuition to someone from outside the US, I do not care at all.

Healthcare? Same thing. Can't make decisions without more information. But a key for MAGA brainwashing is to never have details, just scary headlines.
1.) It is tuition that could be given to actual citizen students. Still robbing those who should rightfully have it.

2.) Anytime healthcare providers write off services, the actual cost is not absorbed. It is passed right along to suckers like you and me who play by the rules, pay for insurance, and pay our bills. Again, taking from me to give to someone who is breaking the law.
You know that there are numerous non-citizens who are in the country who are not breaking any laws, right? Learn about what the terms F-1, F-2, J-1 and J-2 mean at US Department of State website.

Also, by your “logic” admitting qualified candidates is unfair to unqualified candidates?
I am aware. I have a friend and colleague who is here from Sri Lanka on a work visa. I have no issue with that, as it is within the bounds of the law.
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Kamala, it's over. Lol.

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Are you relieved now?
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Pretty sure I am going to start following “Robby Starbuck” for my news source.

His in depth reporting is absolutely riveting.
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Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:54 pm Pretty sure I am going to start following “Robby Starbuck” for my news source.

His in depth reporting is absolutely riveting.
Focus on the video... he's probably just a random person that posted a clip from kamalas disaster on cnn
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randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:17 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:54 pm Pretty sure I am going to start following “Robby Starbuck” for my news source.

His in depth reporting is absolutely riveting.
Focus on the video... he's probably just a random person that posted a clip from kamalas disaster on cnn
Why would I “focus on the video”?
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Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:19 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:17 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:54 pm Pretty sure I am going to start following “Robby Starbuck” for my news source.

His in depth reporting is absolutely riveting.
Focus on the video... he's probably just a random person that posted a clip from kamalas disaster on cnn
Why would I “focus on the video”?
It's the whole point of the post. In the video... kamala derails. And reluctantly admits she actually agrees with trumps border plan, that a few years ago she called "xenophobic"

It's one of many things trump was right about. But the democrats instead called him racist, based on nothing. Almost everything the media has told you about trump was a lie or a twist on the truth
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Trump is a racist, to suggest otherwise is dumb.

To me, Kamala has every right to change her approach and her plans to adjust to an ever changing situation.

You are in desperate need of multiple boogeymen. Too bad you are so deep that you can’t see that.
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BTW, I watched the video again.
At what point did she agree with Trump?
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randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:22 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:19 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:17 pm

Focus on the video... he's probably just a random person that posted a clip from kamalas disaster on cnn
Why would I “focus on the video”?
It's the whole point of the post. In the video... kamala derails. And reluctantly admits she actually agrees with trumps border plan, that a few years ago she called "xenophobic"

It's one of many things trump was right about. But the democrats instead called him racist, based on nothing. Almost everything the media has told you about trump was a lie or a twist on the truth
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Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:40 pmTo me, Kamala has every right to change her approach and her plans to adjust to an ever changing situation.
I think we go WAY overboard in criticizing policymakers for doing…exactly what we hope the people important to us do, which is (put one way, of many) to be open to receiving, digesting and acting on new and better information.

To, on matters of policy but not principle, act practically rather than intractably.

To NOT consider themselves to be the smartest person in every room, and to learn from expertise and build consensus.

Instead we too often lionize closed-mindedness.
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consensus and compromise would seem to be essential to any legitimate democratic process

not, get on board or get out of the way
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:22 pm
Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:19 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:17 pm

Focus on the video... he's probably just a random person that posted a clip from kamalas disaster on cnn
Why would I “focus on the video”?
It's the whole point of the post. In the video... kamala derails. And reluctantly admits she actually agrees with trumps border plan, that a few years ago she called "xenophobic"

It's one of many things trump was right about. But the democrats instead called him racist, based on nothing. Almost everything the media has told you about trump was a lie or a twist on the truth
Somewhat respectfully......

"he's probably just a random person".
Proof you often don't have a fucking clue who the people are who's social media shit you feel the need to intake and then share on here because you are gullible and naive?
I'm asking because it pretty much makes me think you might read/watch/hear some dude who goes by the name Ihathem Kykez say Jews are responsible for the assassination attempts on Trump and then you would come on here and present it as being factual - without your knowing that "Ihathem Kykez" is a Holocaust denier who is serving time in prison for attempting to shoot up a synagogue and would repeatedly beat up kids in High School because they were Jewish.

"It's the whole point of the post".
"The whole point of the post" is indeed to call her out but also for easily manipulated people as yourself to eat ALL of it up and then share ALL of it with others.
Help me/us out. She very well may have used the exact words "racist" and "xenophobic" in regards to the wall. I spent a little time and couldn't find a single example of her doing as such. Since you claim she did, can/will you please provide proof of what you claim?

"It's one of many things Trump was right about".
What exactly is one of the many things Trump was right about?
I know he was NOT right about having Mexico pay for the debacle of a wall, and HIS stopping "Illegals" coming from Mexico in to the USA during his Presidency.

"the democrats instead called him racist, based on nothing".
That's golden coming from YOU. Mr. I will make up things and/or share shit on here "based on nothing".
"based on NOTHING"? Really?

"Almost everything the media has told you about trump was a lie or a twist on the truth."
Once again, "That's golden coming from YOU". Heck, an appropriate and accurate social media user name for yourself could/should be Mr. lies and twists on the truth.
Now tell us how you feel about what Trump himself has said and done. Any lies? Any "twists on the truth"?
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