What happened to the immigration thread?

[JKLivin]

There is also the "I wasn't vote to vote at all because I don't want to vote for either of these people but now I am" group. When you factor in that about 40% of the eligible voters don't bother to vote, there is a more significant group of "undecided" people out there than you think.

If you're so desperate that you think people who were too lazy or disinterested to vote are now going to do so because of a stupid joke, then you are more desperate than I had even imagined.

It's not desperate to point out what the average voter turnout is or to think that some people might be offended by having their home region called a floating piece or garbage but whatever helps you feel better. I doubt so many Republicans are out here trying to clean this up for Trump if they thought it was a Nothing burger.

Meh. Pearl-clutching. Whatever.

[jfish26]

That is your opinion. Which is irrelevant to how the people targeted here might feel about what was said. In the context of just being the latest target group, in particular.

[KUTradition]

narcissism says otherwise

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Florida leaders who either a) weren't backing Trump anyway or b) are saying what they think they need to say to keep their own jobs, but are still backing Trump.

Nothingburger.

Rick Scott is a Florida leader who has aggressively supported Trump. He just happens to remember there are a lot of Puerto Ricans in Florida and wants to deflect the blame from Trump to the comedian so that Trump doesn't lose too many votes over it.

If Trump loses Florida then he has zero path to victory and Rick Scott knows it. There are 1.1 million Puerto Ricans in Florida, more than 470k in Pennsylvania, more than 110k in North Carolina, more than 100k in Georgia, more than 60k in Wisconsin, more than 60k in Arizona and more than 40k in Michigan. It is not a campaign killer but it is certainly not a Nothingburger.

Trump will not lose Florida. The only people who can't understand/take a joke are called Dims, and they weren't going to vote for him anyway.

I won't vote for or against Trump because of a joke someone told at his rally.
I might vote for or against Trump because of the way his followers (notice I didn't say supporters?) reacted and responded to the jokeS (plural). That is/was what was more offensive to me than the actual jokes.

In regard to if Trump will or won't lose Florida.
Trump won Florida by about 1% in 2016.
Trump won Florida by about 3% in 2020.
I wouldn't count on Trump winning or losing Florida based on what people THINK may or may not happen.

[JKLivin]

Rick Scott is a Florida leader who has aggressively supported Trump. He just happens to remember there are a lot of Puerto Ricans in Florida and wants to deflect the blame from Trump to the comedian so that Trump doesn't lose too many votes over it.

If Trump loses Florida then he has zero path to victory and Rick Scott knows it. There are 1.1 million Puerto Ricans in Florida, more than 470k in Pennsylvania, more than 110k in North Carolina, more than 100k in Georgia, more than 60k in Wisconsin, more than 60k in Arizona and more than 40k in Michigan. It is not a campaign killer but it is certainly not a Nothingburger.

Trump will not lose Florida. The only people who can't understand/take a joke are called Dims, and they weren't going to vote for him anyway.

I won't vote for or against Trump because of a joke someone told at his rally.
I might vote for or against Trump because of the way his followers (notice I didn't say supporters?) reacted and responded to the jokeS (plural). That is/was what was more offensive to me than the actual jokes.

In regard to if Trump will or won't lose Florida.
Trump won Florida by about 1% in 2016.
Trump won Florida by about 3% in 2020.
I wouldn't count on Trump winning or losing Florida based on what people THINK may or may not happen.

To paraphrase Hinchcliffe's response to the oUTrAgE: "I'm a comedian. I don't normally follow the National Anthem. Go change your tampon, Tim."

[JKLivin]

That is your opinion. Which is irrelevant to how the people targeted here might feel about what was said. In the context of just being the latest target group, in particular.

You're hoping like hell that it will be a difference maker, which belies your desperation. It is a delusion.

[Shirley]

If you're so desperate that you think people who were too lazy or disinterested to vote are now going to do so because of a stupid joke, then you are more desperate than I had even imagined.

It's not desperate to point out what the average voter turnout is or to think that some people might be offended by having their home region called a floating piece or garbage but whatever helps you feel better. I doubt so many Republicans are out here trying to clean this up for Trump if they thought it was a Nothing burger.

Meh. Pearl-clutching. Whatever.

Are you sure, Psych?

In his previous elections in Florida for governor and senator, Rick Scott has never won by more than 1%.

...based on the latest USA Today/Suffolk University/WSVN-TV phone poll of 500 likely voters conducted between Aug. 7 and Aug. 11, Scott is at 35% approval in this survey, with a staggering 49% of respondents regarding him unfavorably.

The Senator and two-term former Governor from Naples is underwater in every region of the state. He is at -1 in the Panhandle, -2 in North Florida, -22 in “East” Florida, and -26 in South Florida...

[jfish26]

That is your opinion. Which is irrelevant to how the people targeted here might feel about what was said. In the context of just being the latest target group, in particular.

You're hoping like hell that it will be a difference maker, which belies your desperation. It is a delusion.

My belief is that Harris is going to win.

My belief also is that Trump is desperate to stay out of prison, and has purposefully seeded his followers with the delusion that he’s winning.

And so, yes, I am very strongly hoping that this will be yet another thing that pushes margins further away from the zone of fuckery.

[JKLivin]

It's not desperate to point out what the average voter turnout is or to think that some people might be offended by having their home region called a floating piece or garbage but whatever helps you feel better. I doubt so many Republicans are out here trying to clean this up for Trump if they thought it was a Nothing burger.

Meh. Pearl-clutching. Whatever.

Are you sure, Psych?

In his previous elections in Florida for governor and senator, Rick Scott has never won by more than 1%.

...based on the latest USA Today/Suffolk University/WSVN-TV phone poll of 500 likely voters conducted between Aug. 7 and Aug. 11, Scott is at 35% approval in this survey, with a staggering 49% of respondents regarding him unfavorably.

The Senator and two-term former Governor from Naples is underwater in every region of the state. He is at -1 in the Panhandle, -2 in North Florida, -22 in “East” Florida, and -26 in South Florida...

I am sure. Listen to your candidate talk for 60 seconds. Game. Over.

She dum, bruh.

[JKLivin]

That is your opinion. Which is irrelevant to how the people targeted here might feel about what was said. In the context of just being the latest target group, in particular.

You're hoping like hell that it will be a difference maker, which belies your desperation. It is a delusion.

My belief is that Harris is going to win.

My belief also is that Trump is desperate to stay out of prison, and has purposefully seeded his followers with the delusion that he’s winning.

And so, yes, I am very strongly hoping that this will be yet another thing that pushes margins further away from the zone of fuckery.

You reek of desperation. It is comically sad, but, on the plus side, you seem to have a lot of company around here.

[Sparko]

Burn any ballot boxes lately Psych? Because that is the true MAGA desperation. Won't work. But crazy ironic that the free and fair election people are lighting up ballots in blue areas.

[jfish26]

I suspect that we’re going to see many - dozens? - of things like that, for the purpose (among others) of creating out of thin air support for the argument that the direct results of the election should be disregarded.

Informing this suspicion is the obviousness of just how little Trump/Vance care about winning votes legitimately.

[Shirley]

Oh, look, it's Access Hollywood, the same co. that recorded Trump saying he liked to grab women by the pussy. You must be so proud, Psych.

[jfish26]

One thing to keep in mind here is that much of MAGA considers birthright citizenship to be fundamentally illegitimate.

[JKLivin]

Burn any ballot boxes lately Psych? Because that is the true MAGA desperation. Won't work. But crazy ironic that the free and fair election people are lighting up ballots in blue areas.

My first thought when I heard about it was that it was desperate Harris supporters doing what desperate Harris supporters do.

[JKLivin]

One thing to keep in mind here is that much of MAGA considers birthright citizenship to be fundamentally illegitimate.

Prolly shoulda thought about that before breaking a country’s immigration laws. Just sayin’.

[jfish26]

One thing to keep in mind here is that much of MAGA considers birthright citizenship to be fundamentally illegitimate.

Prolly shoulda thought about that before breaking a country’s immigration laws. Just sayin’.

Do you consider birthright citizenship to be legitimate?

[JKLivin]

Oh, look, it's Access Hollywood, the same co. that recorded Trump saying he liked to grab women by the pussy. You must be so proud, Psych.

Don’t know who “Bad Bunny” is. Don’t care what JLo thinks. What else you got?

[JKLivin]

One thing to keep in mind here is that much of MAGA considers birthright citizenship to be fundamentally illegitimate.

Prolly shoulda thought about that before breaking a country’s immigration laws. Just sayin’.

Do you consider birthright citizenship to be legitimate?

When you’re born to people who are here legally, sure. Not big on anchor babies.

[twocoach]

Prolly shoulda thought about that before breaking a country’s immigration laws. Just sayin’.

Do you consider birthright citizenship to be legitimate?

When you’re born to people who are here legally, sure. Not big on anchor babies.

You don't seem to know what birthright citizenship is. Per the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."