Evil Rich People

[jfish26]

And, looks like he might have violated immigration law!!

No no, he’s just bringing awareness to the immigration laws.

[Sparko]

Imagine how much Tesla must love being affiliated with racists? MSG rally, brought to you by Tesla. And Space-X. Genius business guy.

[Shirley]

[jfish26]

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

As much as I hate (and hate is a very strong word) Musk and Trump, I would have no problem with some suffering for a short period of time I was guaranteed a better future. I would probably be stupid not to. Problem is, there are very few guarantees in life and I would never put my trust and faith in Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

[jfish26]

I seem to recall our Qurious friends saying that it’s the globalists’ plan to tank the world economy and profit by buying up control of everything and then renting it back to the people (one way or another).

Make no mistake, that is what Musk is talking about here.

[KUTradition]

wut

LEVIN REPORT
Elon Musk Built a Compound for His 11 Children and Their Moms, Keeps Offering “Friends and Acquaintances” His Sperm: Report

One of those acquaintances is said to be RFK Jr.’s former running mate…

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

wut

LEVIN REPORT
Elon Musk Built a Compound for His 11 Children and Their Moms, Keeps Offering “Friends and Acquaintances” His Sperm: Report

One of those acquaintances is said to be RFK Jr.’s former running mate…

Since "we" ("Americans") are going there and Elon wants women (other than those he has intercourse with) to produce more Elons.....

[japhy]

As much as I hate (and hate is a very strong word) Musk and Trump, I would have no problem with some suffering for a short period of time I was guaranteed a better future. I would probably be stupid not to. Problem is, there are very few guarantees in life and I would never put my trust and faith in Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

We all know Eloon its not talking about himself having any "temporary hardships". He is just letting the rubes know that they should expect a downturn in their economy, but as always, ignore reality and trust their heroes to do what is right for themselves.

It will trickle down someday.

[jfish26]

As much as I hate (and hate is a very strong word) Musk and Trump, I would have no problem with some suffering for a short period of time I was guaranteed a better future. I would probably be stupid not to. Problem is, there are very few guarantees in life and I would never put my trust and faith in Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

We all know Eloon its not talking about himself having any "temporary hardships". He is just letting the rubes know that they should expect a downturn in their economy, but as always, ignore reality and trust their heroes to do what is right for themselves.

It will trickle down someday.

Again - the whole WEF AND BILL GATES ARE MAKING A PLAY FOR WORLD DOMINATION thing, except here we know it is very much actually the right's plan.

Donald Trump’s American Oligarchy

The billionaires are lining up to get their bread buttered.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/donald-tru ... -oligarchy

WHEN HE BOUNDED ONSTAGE at the Trump vulgarfest in Madison Square Garden on Sunday night, Elon Musk declared himself to be not just MAGA, but “dark, gothic MAGA.”

Believe him.

In these last days before voting concludes, Generals John Kelly, Jim Mattis, and others have warned that Trump is an aspiring fascist—a necessary alarm. But what has also come into sharper focus in the last few weeks is that a second Trump term would inaugurate an American oligarchy.

The sorry spectacle of leading industrialists, newspaper owners, tech executives, Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, and others seeking to ensure their good standing with Trump reflects a blend of cowardice and cupidity. Mark Zuckerberg, whom Trump labeled a “true enemy of the people” as recently as March, and called “Zuckerschmuck,” demonstrated that there are no hard feelings where money and power are concerned. He let it be known that he was moved by Trump’s survival of an assassination attempt:

Seeing Donald Trump get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I’ve ever seen in my life. On some level as an American, it’s like hard to not get kind of emotional about that spirit and that fight, and I think that that’s why a lot of people like the guy.

I would bet 100 million of Zuckerberg’s dollars that he did not get emotional about Trump’s badass performance.

Jeff Bezos, whose businesses span the globe and make him about as bulletproof as a figure can be in the face of a would-be autocrat, instead decided that his interest in government contracts for Blue Origin and other companies outweighs his dedication to American democracy.

This is what a second Trump term would bring: fat cats getting theirs. Trump is the most corrupt figure ever to disgrace the White House and has made no secret of his intention to reward friends and punish enemies if he regains power. The would-be oligarchs recognize the new game and are preparing to operate in a world where government impartiality and above-board decision making are relegated to the dustbin of history. The Supreme Court has greased the already slippery skids of Trumpian favor-granting by bestowing unreviewable immunity on presidents for official acts and presumed immunity for all but purely private acts. Put those things together, and you have a perfect recipe for massive official corruption.

Consider tariffs. Trump claims to believe that they are the magic elixir for every ill (including subsidizing the costs of childcare and obviating the necessity for income taxes) and denies that they will raise prices for American consumers. That’s all ludicrous, of course. What he doesn’t say is that they are also an engraved invitation to favor-seeking from large companies and other interests. Trump asserts that he has vast discretion to impose tariffs unilaterally, without the consent of Congress, and for once, he’s correct. Under the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, the Trade Act of 1974, and other laws, the president can impose sweeping tariffs on just the recommendation of the Secretary of Commerce or the U.S. Trade Representative. Section 232 of the 1962 law permits tariffs when “a product is being imported into the United States in such quantities or under such circumstances as to threaten to impair national security.” And who gets to decide whether a product “threatens to impair” national security? The president. This was the rationale Trump relied upon in 2018 to slap tariffs on steel coming from that major national security threat called Canada. As Andrew Egger put it, “Trump’s proposed mega-tariff economic agenda will give him all the arm-twisting authority he needs to bring America’s moguls to heel.”

And tariffs are only one of the scores of paths for official corruption. There are government licenses, approval of mergers and acquisitions, leases for oil and gas development, and much more. Trump has already made his family and himself a huge pile through access to power and stands ready to open the floodgates in January.

Earlier this year, Musk said he would not contribute to or support anyone for president. A few months later, he was leaping into the air at Trump rallies and offering millions in payouts to people who register to vote and win his lottery. His pro-Trump super PAC is flush with at least $75 million of Musk’s money. Though Musk is far from the most stable personality one can think of, it’s a safe bet that he has seen an opportunity. Trump may think he has co-opted Musk, but it’s far more likely that Trump is the one being used.

Musk is younger, smarter, and far richer than Trump. He controls a business empire that dwarfs not just Trump’s holdings, but those of every other capitalist. Starlink now owns nearly two-thirds of all commercial satellites in orbit around Earth and provides Musk the power to grant or withhold internet access to crisis areas of the globe on a whim. The U.S. government begged him not to withdraw access from Ukraine, which uses Starlink as its chief provider of battlefield communication, and for now, Musk has agreed, but as a Pentagon official told the Week, “We are living off his good graces. That sucks.”

Boeing can’t compete with him. Nor can NASA, which was recently obliged to go hat in hand to Musk to launch a rescue operation for two stranded astronauts on the International Space Station. Economics blogger Noah Smith notes that “Without this one Musk company, America would be lagging far behind China in the space race. But with SpaceX included, the U.S. is far ahead of China.” Space X won a $1.8 billion classified contract with the Pentagon in 2021. Without Space X, the United States would be unable to launch most of NASA’s and the Pentagon’s rockets.

Then there’s Tesla, which controls 57 percent of the EV market (and has a huge manufacturing presence in China). And Musk owns X (Twitter), whose global influence persists despite Musk’s decision to open it to fascists, antisemites, and assorted disinformation peddlers.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that Musk has been in frequent contact with Vladimir Putin since 2022. Originally a supporter of Ukraine, Musk has switched sides, at least on X, where he frequently posts thinly veiled Russian propaganda. Putin is courting him as he would a head of state. During his interview with the malleable Tucker Carlson, Putin described Musk as “very smart,” adding that “There’s no stopping Elon Musk, he’s going to do what he thinks he needs to do. You need to find some common ground with him, you need to search for some ways to persuade him.” The Journal further reports that Putin has asked Musk to deactivate Starlink over Taiwan as a favor to China, one of Putin’s chief allies in the war on Ukraine.

Whom does Musk support—the United States, Russia, China, or whoever is best for business at the moment? It’s a measure of how dangerous this moment is that we need to ask. Even if Kamala Harris wins the election, the unprecedented global power of private oligarchs like Musk will be difficult to rein in. If Trump wins, we’re entering uncharted territory where private actors with vast wealth and power join with a corrupt president to pursue their own ends and not those of the people of the United States. Welcome to oligarchy, American style.

[japhy]

I seem to recall our Qurious friends saying that it’s the globalists’ plan to tank the world economy and profit by buying up control of everything and then renting it back to the people (one way or another).

Make no mistake, that is what Musk is talking about here.

The return of vulture capitalism!

I am currently looking into buying tax lien certificates. There are a couple of buildings I would like to own. The worst that can happen is I get the equivalent of a short term CD paying 12-18%. The best case is I get some property for less than half of the market value. I can pick up the taxes on a potato warehouse for $6K, the taxes on a potato farm for $20k, the taxes on a small home for $525, and for a commercial building near mine for just $273.

So for just $26K and change in cash I could get a $3.2k + short term return, or potential future ownership of a potato farm and a warehouse to store them in! And then there is the other building I could acquire for much needed small stuff storage space.

I know it is a perverse tendency, but I do enjoy figuring out how to break the code and make real money during times of crisis.

Pay your taxes rubes, or not only will you be paying the interest for my tax cuts but you will be renting your home from me.

And as always, thank you rubes for your debt service.

[Overlander]

A lawyer friend of mine suggested a few years ago that I should look into attempting to purchase properties (land) with absentee owners.

He gave me a list of states (Colorado being one) where an attempt to purchase can actually put a lien-in standing that would put me in first position for any future sale on properties that had absentee owners.

For the minimum investment of typical earnest money, I could lock those properties as mine, and leverage myself in any future transaction for that property.

He basically said that it isn’t uncommon, and is a fairly common practice in “mineral right” states.

I chose not to go there, what with having a soul and all.

Hey Psych, might be a good opp….Port…ah fuck, you dont have any money.

Disregard.

[JKLivin]

A lawyer friend of mine suggested a few years ago that I should look into attempting to purchase properties (land) with absentee owners.

He gave me a list of states (Colorado being one) where an attempt to purchase can actually put a lien-in standing that would put me in first position for any future sale on properties that had absentee owners.

For the minimum investment of typical earnest money, I could lock those properties as mine, and leverage myself in any future transaction for that property.

He basically said that it isn’t uncommon, and is a fairly common practice in “mineral right” states.

I chose not to go there, what with having a soul and all.

Hey Psych, might be a good opp….Port…ah fuck, you dont have any money.

Disregard.

Glad to see the new, congenial, respectful Overlander is still . . . oops . . .nevermind.

[KUTradition]

glad to see you’re still trafficking in lies and conspiracy

do better

[japhy]

He basically said that it isn’t uncommon, and is a fairly common practice in “mineral right” states.

I chose not to go there, what with having a soul and all.

You make it sound so "dirty". The rubes are wanting to turn the world over to the oligarchs. It's "eat or be eaten". It's "get out of the way or get run over".

It's just economic Darwinism. They have been asking for it for decades. Time to get back to the glory of the gilded age which gifted us the mineral rights laws.

[japhy]

Glad to see the new, congenial, respectful Overlander is still . . . oops . . .nevermind.

There will be nothing congenial about the new world economic order, it will be "get out of the way or get run over".

Go ahead, vote to become roadkill.

No one can change your mind now, it's a matter of principle, "being right". You've got this!

Eloon/trumpty are offering a noose, put your neck in it and see how it goes. You might get lucky and live to tell the tale.

Is now a good time to remake "The Grapes of Wrath"?

[Sparko]

He'll be there Japh.

[twocoach]

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-med ... rcna174321

"In April 2022, days after Elon Musk offered to buy the app then known as Twitter, the tech billionaire pledged that under his stewardship the platform would not take sides in politics.

“For Twitter to deserve public trust, it must be politically neutral, which effectively means upsetting the far right and the far left equally,” Musk posted on the app, now renamed X.

It hasn’t worked out that way.

In the two years since then, Musk has transformed the platform, once regarded as the global town square, into an echo chamber amplifying right-leaning causes and in particular former President Donald Trump’s electoral campaign, according to academic research, public opinion surveys, data on X’s most influential users, engagement metrics and reports about X’s working directly with the Trump campaign.

And in recent months, Musk has become one of Trump’s biggest donors and most energetic supporters, turning X into an unofficial house organ for his campaign. "

So much for "free speech" and neutrality...

[KUTradition]

absolute power corrupts absolutely

[JKLivin]

Glad to see the new, congenial, respectful Overlander is still . . . oops . . .nevermind.

There will be nothing congenial about the new world economic order, it will be "get out of the way or get run over".

Go ahead, vote to become roadkill.

No one can change your mind now, it's a matter of principle, "being right". You've got this!

Eloon/trumpty are offering a noose, put your neck in it and see how it goes. You might get lucky and live to tell the tale.

Is now a good time to remake "The Grapes of Wrath"?

My comment was based on a private conversation with Overlander, so I don't expect the context to make sense to you.