Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

[Overlander]

The ones studying gain of function testing

Stop. Just fucking stop.

[randylahey]

We do not allow gain of function study in the US. Faucci denies funding it all and tries to twist that definition to remove himself and the NIH from liability

[randylahey]

If I posted a 30 or so minute documentary that dissects the origin of covid would you watch it with an open mind

[Sparko]

The biggest issue with COVID is not its origins but our ability to deal with it. Trump abolished our national defense pandemic response team. With it, he lost key tools to control the outbreak. He ignored expert advice and even advocated not testing for the disease or wearing masks. Further, he put his son in law in charge of pandemic support logistics and turned that into a national disaster. Trump cost the lives of 100,000s of Americans and still has Randy carrying his water. Pathetic.

[Overlander]

We do not allow gain of function study in the US. Faucci denies funding it all and tries to twist that definition to remove himself and the NIH from liability

Gain of function is a part of virology research. Federal funding of GOF was shut off.
That isn't the same as outlawing it.

Just

Fucking

Stop

[randylahey]

There was little honesty coming from the "experts" if you are refering to guys like faucci. The scientific model allows for scientists to compare data and hypothesis to try to prove/disprove conclusions. Faucci was actively running smear campaigns and trying to silence other highly qualified scientists. Watch it and give me your opinions

[JKLivin]

Yes, I am sure that the boogeyman police can dream up all sorts of non-existent what-if scenarios like you described. But worrying that they might happen and stating that they will happen are two different things. I worry about hypotheticals a lot but I don't run around screaming that they are happening without actual evidence that they are happening.

Again, it comes down to the difference between people who engage in magical thinking - e.g. "We'll wave a magic wand and end poverty in all its forms," - and those who understand that, in order for certain ends to be achieved, there are means that logically have to be employed, e.g. to end poverty, wealth and property must be taken from those who have it and redistributed to those who do not (who does that sound like, I wonder?!?). You can go down every item on that list and either agree that the puppies and bunnies/magical solution is correct or realize that it will mean taking away rights and privileges that those of us in the First World enjoy and even take for granted in order to marginally raise the standard of living of those in the Third World. Ultimately, it will not raise up everyone so much as lower everyone to the same miserable level. Mark me down as a hard "no" for that plan.

No, it doesn't at all. There is a third option which is that normal things that can be done to reach those goals. Good grief. You seriously can't think that the only way to progress towards these goals is to lock up everyone in detention camps, take their cars and feed them crickets, right?

Fortunately there are people with functioning brains working on these goals and not fucking morons.

Prosperity is a zero sum game. To give more to you, it has to be taken from me. There is no ethereal prosperity generator. Your kind labels it with euphemisms like “redistribution of wealth,” but it’s nothing more than taking from the haves to give to the have nots by people who exempt themselves from the game.

[jfish26]

Nonsense. The pie can (and does) grow.

[twocoach]

Again, it comes down to the difference between people who engage in magical thinking - e.g. "We'll wave a magic wand and end poverty in all its forms," - and those who understand that, in order for certain ends to be achieved, there are means that logically have to be employed, e.g. to end poverty, wealth and property must be taken from those who have it and redistributed to those who do not (who does that sound like, I wonder?!?). You can go down every item on that list and either agree that the puppies and bunnies/magical solution is correct or realize that it will mean taking away rights and privileges that those of us in the First World enjoy and even take for granted in order to marginally raise the standard of living of those in the Third World. Ultimately, it will not raise up everyone so much as lower everyone to the same miserable level. Mark me down as a hard "no" for that plan.

No, it doesn't at all. There is a third option which is that normal things that can be done to reach those goals. Good grief. You seriously can't think that the only way to progress towards these goals is to lock up everyone in detention camps, take their cars and feed them crickets, right?

Fortunately there are people with functioning brains working on these goals and not fucking morons.

Prosperity is a zero sum game. To give more to you, it has to be taken from me. There is no ethereal prosperity generator. Your kind labels it with euphemisms like “redistribution of wealth,” but it’s nothing more than taking from the haves to give to the have nots by people who exempt themselves from the game.

You have created a world where only your insane solutions can possibly be the solutions that get used despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary. You do not accept reality as reality. Best of luck to you.

Please don't take a job that impacts me in any way.

[Overlander]

There was little honesty coming from the "experts" if you are refering to guys like faucci. The scientific model allows for scientists to compare data and hypothesis to try to prove/disprove conclusions. Faucci was actively running smear campaigns and trying to silence other highly qualified scientists. Watch it and give me your opinions

I am not referring to anyone.
Faucci, to me, was a hero.

The voice of reason, experience and calm in the face of one of the worst non-war emergencies this country has ever faced. And he did it while the mouth breathers, who have no idea what they are talking about, were campaigning for his murder.

You worship the "man" who suggested you took horse medicine, shoved a lightbulb up your ass and drink bleach.

[Overlander]

No, it doesn't at all. There is a third option which is that normal things that can be done to reach those goals. Good grief. You seriously can't think that the only way to progress towards these goals is to lock up everyone in detention camps, take their cars and feed them crickets, right?

Fortunately there are people with functioning brains working on these goals and not fucking morons.

Prosperity is a zero sum game. To give more to you, it has to be taken from me. There is no ethereal prosperity generator. Your kind labels it with euphemisms like “redistribution of wealth,” but it’s nothing more than taking from the haves to give to the have nots by people who exempt themselves from the game.

Please don't take a job that impacts me in any way.

Little chance of that, as long as you don't shop at Dollar General.

[twocoach]

We do not allow gain of function study in the US.

This is not true. Not sure why you believe this.

[randylahey]

There was little honesty coming from the "experts" if you are refering to guys like faucci. The scientific model allows for scientists to compare data and hypothesis to try to prove/disprove conclusions. Faucci was actively running smear campaigns and trying to silence other highly qualified scientists. Watch it and give me your opinions

I am not referring to anyone.
Faucci, to me, was a hero.

The voice of reason, experience and calm in the face of one of the worst non-war emergencies this country has ever faced. And he did it while the mouth breathers, who have no idea what they are talking about, were campaigning for his murder.

You worship the "man" who suggested you took horse medicine, shoved a lightbulb up your ass and drink bleach.

Click the link and watch that video then

[KUTradition]

you really need to hone your critical thinking skills

[MICHHAWK]

Faucci, to me, was a hero.

rudy g in 2001 was a hero.

[KUTradition]

rudy g is a disgrace of an American

[Overlander]

There was little honesty coming from the "experts" if you are refering to guys like faucci. The scientific model allows for scientists to compare data and hypothesis to try to prove/disprove conclusions. Faucci was actively running smear campaigns and trying to silence other highly qualified scientists. Watch it and give me your opinions

I am not referring to anyone.
Faucci, to me, was a hero.

The voice of reason, experience and calm in the face of one of the worst non-war emergencies this country has ever faced. And he did it while the mouth breathers, who have no idea what they are talking about, were campaigning for his murder.

You worship the "man" who suggested you took horse medicine, shoved a lightbulb up your ass and drink bleach.

Click the link and watch that video then

Nope

[Overlander]

rudy g is a turd

[JKLivin]

Prosperity is a zero sum game. To give more to you, it has to be taken from me. There is no ethereal prosperity generator. Your kind labels it with euphemisms like “redistribution of wealth,” but it’s nothing more than taking from the haves to give to the have nots by people who exempt themselves from the game.

Please don't take a job that impacts me in any way.

Little chance of that, as long as you don't shop at Dollar General.

You’re the salesman, not me.

[Overlander]

Please don't take a job that impacts me in any way.

Little chance of that, as long as you don't shop at Dollar General.

You’re the salesman, not me.

Yep.
Sorry that hurts you so much.