trump’s promises

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Really gross

I'm not going to say if I fee it is gross or really gross but I wonder how people feel when I say we live in a country where in some states if a woman is 17 years and 364 days old you could conceivably go to jail for having consensual sex with her if you are 18 years old - but if you have consensual sex with an 18 year old on her 18th birthday it's ok.
Guess what?
When I was 18 and 19 I was having consensual sex with a 17 year old. My guess is some/many of you on here were too.
Heck, when I was 17 I was having sex with 18 and 19 and 20 year olds. Should those girls/women have been arrested for having sex with me?

This post skirted on believable, then it nose dived toward the end.

Ok handsome.
I was 17 when I went to college. Like I said, I had sex with different girls/women who were 18, 19, and 20.
If that's not believe to you - so be it. My life will go on.

Not sure if anyone else has posted this but going forward it might be a decent source in relation to the thread title.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... umpometer/

[japhy]

I think this goes here. Fuck Yeah! Let's do this!

Get ready to become roadkill, rubes!

Last Thursday, House Speaker Mike Johnson briefly considered abstaining from the fracas over whether the House Ethics Committee should release its report into alleged sexual misconduct by former Rep. Matt Gaetz. “The speaker is not involved with what happens in Ethics,” Johnson said. “Lots of important reasons for that.”

Apparently, those important reasons were more malleable than he’d originally thought. By Friday, Johnson had changed his mind.

“I’m going to strongly request that the Ethics Committee not issue the report, because that is not the way we do things in the House, and I think that would be a terrible precedent to set,” Johnson told reporters. “If someone is no longer a member of Congress, we are not in the business of investigating and publishing reports about people who are not part of this institution.”

In a Fox News Sunday interview yesterday, Johnson added that he was afraid releasing the Gaetz report—which they’ve been working on for years and which Gaetz transparently resigned from Congress in the hopes of avoiding—would “open a Pandora’s box.” Soon feral packs of Ethics Committee members will be roaming the streets of D.C., opening up investigations into anybody!

As faux-principled stands go, this is the House equivalent of Mitch McConnell’s 2021 argument that, while Donald Trump’s January 6th antics hadn’t been great, the Senate simply couldn’t convict an ex-president. If you think Johnson would have similar scruples if the committee were sitting on information potentially damaging to one of Trump’s enemies, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

This patented brand of “doing whatever Trump wants while working hard to spin it as the dictates of my conscience” has gotten Johnson pretty far in life. Hell, after the vice president, he’s next in line for the presidency.

That role has also helped Trump tremendously, too. The skittish normies of the MAGA coalition cling to guys like Johnson as if they were a security blanket. Johnson’s mouthing of words like “tradition” and “precedent” allows them to go on believing, in the face of all evidence, that there’s still more to their party than transactionalism and raw power, even as Johnson himself engages in transactionalism for the pursuit of raw power.

As Trump prepares his triumphal return to power, though, Johnson is already much diminished. When the strongman arrives, the supposed normie proceduralist must meekly get out of the way.

Over the weekend, Johnson tagged along with Team Trump to a UFC match. A bunch of deeply funny pictures followed: Johnson leaning awkwardly into frame as Trump sat down to lunch with RFK Jr., Don Jr., and Elon Musk; Johnson bobbing at the heels of Trump and UFC CEO Dana White as they walked into the arena; Johnson craning his neck over Kid Rock’s shoulder to make it into an elevator selfie. The speaker of the House is just happy to be included. He knows who’s really in charge.

[twocoach]

“Each of them individually is historically bad,” he acknowledged. “But taken together, these are not people who are going to be bad at their jobs in some sort of normal sense. Taken together, these appointments suggest an attempt to actually make the American government dysfunctional, to make it fall apart, to pervert it, to have it do things that it’s not supposed to do until it’s not capable of doing anything at all.”

It’s not “just that these people are not qualified enough” or even “totally unqualified,” said Snyder.

“It’s that they are anti-qualified,” he continued. “They are qualified to do the opposite of the thing that they are supposed to do.”…

But these people think that it NEEDS to be torn apart. While I partially agree with them as a concept, giving the most incompetent morons the task of tearing it down and putting it together in a better, more efficient, more functional state is probably a terrible idea. None of these people know anything about what they are being tasked with.

[jfish26]

I think this goes here. Fuck Yeah! Let's do this!

Get ready to become roadkill, rubes!

Last Thursday, House Speaker Mike Johnson briefly considered abstaining from the fracas over whether the House Ethics Committee should release its report into alleged sexual misconduct by former Rep. Matt Gaetz. “The speaker is not involved with what happens in Ethics,” Johnson said. “Lots of important reasons for that.”

Apparently, those important reasons were more malleable than he’d originally thought. By Friday, Johnson had changed his mind.

“I’m going to strongly request that the Ethics Committee not issue the report, because that is not the way we do things in the House, and I think that would be a terrible precedent to set,” Johnson told reporters. “If someone is no longer a member of Congress, we are not in the business of investigating and publishing reports about people who are not part of this institution.”

In a Fox News Sunday interview yesterday, Johnson added that he was afraid releasing the Gaetz report—which they’ve been working on for years and which Gaetz transparently resigned from Congress in the hopes of avoiding—would “open a Pandora’s box.” Soon feral packs of Ethics Committee members will be roaming the streets of D.C., opening up investigations into anybody!

As faux-principled stands go, this is the House equivalent of Mitch McConnell’s 2021 argument that, while Donald Trump’s January 6th antics hadn’t been great, the Senate simply couldn’t convict an ex-president. If you think Johnson would have similar scruples if the committee were sitting on information potentially damaging to one of Trump’s enemies, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

This patented brand of “doing whatever Trump wants while working hard to spin it as the dictates of my conscience” has gotten Johnson pretty far in life. Hell, after the vice president, he’s next in line for the presidency.

That role has also helped Trump tremendously, too. The skittish normies of the MAGA coalition cling to guys like Johnson as if they were a security blanket. Johnson’s mouthing of words like “tradition” and “precedent” allows them to go on believing, in the face of all evidence, that there’s still more to their party than transactionalism and raw power, even as Johnson himself engages in transactionalism for the pursuit of raw power.

As Trump prepares his triumphal return to power, though, Johnson is already much diminished. When the strongman arrives, the supposed normie proceduralist must meekly get out of the way.

Over the weekend, Johnson tagged along with Team Trump to a UFC match. A bunch of deeply funny pictures followed: Johnson leaning awkwardly into frame as Trump sat down to lunch with RFK Jr., Don Jr., and Elon Musk; Johnson bobbing at the heels of Trump and UFC CEO Dana White as they walked into the arena; Johnson craning his neck over Kid Rock’s shoulder to make it into an elevator selfie. The speaker of the House is just happy to be included. He knows who’s really in charge.

I am not a religious person. I will freely admit to taking a deeply skeptical view of people who orient their public lives around their religious beliefs.

But that view is informed by shit like this.

You would think that the first people in line to criticize hypocritical charlatans like this would be those who genuinely hold the beliefs that clowns like this very obviously only pretend to hold.

That only very rarely happens, though. Which tells me something about how much these beliefs ever ARE genuinely held.

[jfish26]

“Each of them individually is historically bad,” he acknowledged. “But taken together, these are not people who are going to be bad at their jobs in some sort of normal sense. Taken together, these appointments suggest an attempt to actually make the American government dysfunctional, to make it fall apart, to pervert it, to have it do things that it’s not supposed to do until it’s not capable of doing anything at all.”

It’s not “just that these people are not qualified enough” or even “totally unqualified,” said Snyder.

“It’s that they are anti-qualified,” he continued. “They are qualified to do the opposite of the thing that they are supposed to do.”…

But these people think that it NEEDS to be torn apart. While I partially agree with them as a concept, giving the most incompetent morons the task of tearing it down and putting it together in a better, more efficient, more functional state is probably a terrible idea. None of these people know anything about what they are being tasked with.

I am afraid that you are describing a feature, not a bug.

Or, put differently, I think part of your post makes an assumption that I'm not sure squares with the known facts.

[japhy]

giving the most incompetent morons the task of tearing it down and putting it together in a better, more efficient, more functional state is probably a terrible idea.

Probably? PROBABLY?

It's AWESOMELY a terrible idea.

The roadkill rubes have voted to give their spray tangerine lord and savior the keys to everything and will gleefully march into the flames with him. We should let them go, it will build character.

And maybe bring down the price of eggs in hell.

[twocoach]

“Each of them individually is historically bad,” he acknowledged. “But taken together, these are not people who are going to be bad at their jobs in some sort of normal sense. Taken together, these appointments suggest an attempt to actually make the American government dysfunctional, to make it fall apart, to pervert it, to have it do things that it’s not supposed to do until it’s not capable of doing anything at all.”

It’s not “just that these people are not qualified enough” or even “totally unqualified,” said Snyder.

“It’s that they are anti-qualified,” he continued. “They are qualified to do the opposite of the thing that they are supposed to do.”…

But these people think that it NEEDS to be torn apart. While I partially agree with them as a concept, giving the most incompetent morons the task of tearing it down and putting it together in a better, more efficient, more functional state is probably a terrible idea. None of these people know anything about what they are being tasked with.

I am afraid that you are describing a feature, not a bug.

Or, put differently, I think part of your post makes an assumption that I'm not sure squares with the known facts.

I think we all agree that there is a not insignificant amount of dysfunctionality to the inner workings of the vast majority of the government at the federal, state and even local levels. But you don't drop a bomb on a building because you want to redo the plumbing, wiring and HVAC and that is what Trump is doing.

[jfish26]

But these people think that it NEEDS to be torn apart. While I partially agree with them as a concept, giving the most incompetent morons the task of tearing it down and putting it together in a better, more efficient, more functional state is probably a terrible idea. None of these people know anything about what they are being tasked with.

I am afraid that you are describing a feature, not a bug.

Or, put differently, I think part of your post makes an assumption that I'm not sure squares with the known facts.

I think we all agree that there is a not insignificant amount of dysfunctionality to the inner workings of the vast majority of the government at the federal, state and even local levels. But you don't drop a bomb on a building because you want to redo the plumbing, wiring and HVAC and that is what Trump is doing.

I still think you're giving them too much credit. I don't think there is ANY desire to fix anything that is being broken.

They're not dropping a bomb on the building because they want to redo the plumbing, wiring and HVAC.

They're dropping a bomb on the building because they want you to have to rent a shittier and more expensive building from them.

[japhy]

But you don't drop a bomb on a building because you want to redo the plumbing, wiring and HVAC and that is what Trump is doing.

You sound like a growed up who doesn't even own a gaming setup.

To the 24 years old boys who just texted "your body, my choice" to 17 year old girls and are now hoping to get asked to prom, this sounds like a modest proposal.

[dolomite]

24, I guess I was guilty of rape. Got married on her 18th birthday.

Gross

Really gross

Halos over your heads. Quite admirable indeed!

[japhy]

Slow yer roll rubes....we needs to check the math first.

US President-elect Donald Trump has pledged to end income tax on tips. Now, his administration will have to figure out how to make the numbers work.

"We're going to try to make that happen in the Congress," said House Speaker Mike Johnson on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday.

"You have got to do the math. You have got to make sure that these new savings from American people can be paid for and make sure the economy is a pro-growth economy," Johnson said.

"Pro-Growth" translation: How fast does this trickle up?

There's no question that my tax cuts trickle up immediately. They will be fast tracked, no math required.

[twocoach]

Gross

Really gross

Halos over your heads. Quite admirable indeed!

Trust me, I am no angel. But 24+ and 17 is just a line that is beyond my acceptable line. A 17 year old and a 20 year old both at the same relative "we're both in college figuring shit out" stage of life isn't weird to me. But a 24 year old "I've already been through that stage and I am going to snag some
year old clueless newbie before she figures things out" is different to me. To each their own. It's just gross to me personally mostly because I am hyper-sensitive to it due to my past profession of coaching a lot of teenage girls.

[jfish26]

Really gross

Halos over your heads. Quite admirable indeed!

Trust me, I am no angel. But 24+ and 17 is just a line that is beyond my acceptable line. A 17 year old and a 20 year old both at the same relative "we're both in college figuring shit out" stage of life isn't weird to me. But a 24 year old "I've already been through that stage and I am going to snag some
year old clueless newbie before she figures things out" is different to me. To each their own. It's just gross to me personally mostly because I am hyper-sensitive to it due to my past profession of coaching a lot of teenage girls.

As a father of a teenage girl, I agree with this take.

I also think - and I do not at ALL say this as a good thing - today's 17 year olds are much more children than 17 year olds were even a couple or a few decades back.

[KUTradition]

yes, for sure

thank god my niece is through that

[KUTradition]

i don't recall trump promising to fill his cabinet with folks embroiled in sex abuse scandals

i’ve lost count…are there 4 now?

so aspirational, such a phenomenal example to set, and so very moral