2024

[KUTradition]

[KUTradition]

always the victim

[JKLivin]

Congratulations to Psych and Randy, obviously, the smartest guys in the room.

Seems like being correct would be akin to being smart.

We called it; you were confidently wrong. It's pretty simple math, actually.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Congratulations to Psych and Randy, obviously, the smartest guys in the room.

Seems like being correct would be akin to being smart.

We called it; you were confidently wrong. It's pretty simple math, actually.

I called it. I'm not smart. Do the math.

[JKLivin]

Congratulations to Psych and Randy, obviously, the smartest guys in the room.

Seems like being correct would be akin to being smart.

We called it; you were confidently wrong. It's pretty simple math, actually.

I'm not smart.

I beg to differ.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Thank you?
Compared to too many people? Yes. Compared to too many other people? No.
Here is some 2024 wisdumb for the day..... Politically, the world as a whole sucks more in 2024 than it did many/most other years of my life. I'm not too confident 2025 will be any better.

[JKLivin]

Thank you?
Compared to too many people? Yes. Compared to too many other people? No.
Here is some 2024 wisdumb for the day..... Politically, the world as a whole sucks more in 2024 than it did many/most other years of my life. I'm not too confident 2025 will be any better.

I was looking forward to 2025 until Brandon all but guaranteed that we’re going to die in a nuclear holocaust before he’s done. Moran with a death wish.

[KUTradition]

run on tinfoil, aisle 9

nothing like appeasing dictators, especially when that’s worked so well in the past

[KUTradition]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... t-00190793

[KUTradition]

Donald Trump and the tyranny of the uninformed

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/50 ... ormed/amp/

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In a recent survey, despite two years of often-spectacular growth, 56 percent of voters believed we were in a recession. Half of voters thought the unemployment rate was at a 50-year high when, in fact, it is at a 50-year low. Half of voters thought the stock market was down for the year even though at the time of the survey it was up over 25 percent.

In other words, Americans live in two different worlds complete with different facts.

Why is this? If you are a news junkie, it’s possible to compare multiple sources online and ferret out the truth. But most people get their news from just a handful of sources. One recent study found that more than half of Americans get their news from social media. Even worse, 20 percent of Americans get their news from social media influencers. But even more traditional outlets curate the news to keep their viewers happy. News is now just another form of entertainment.

If, for example, you watch Fox News, you will have a very different view of the world than if you watch MSNBC. In the case of one story — the trial in which a jury found Donald Trump civilly liable for sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll, MSNBC mentioned the controversy 440 times in the first five months of 2023, in the run-up to the May 2023 verdict. Fox News mentioned it seven times. This pattern is repeated for a whole range of issues.

And when negative stories about Trump are discussed on Fox, it is often in the context of attempting to explain them away. In some cases, the network simply lies to its viewers in pursuit of ratings. Famously, Fox News paid $787 million to settle a defamation claim that arose out of its false claims that the 2020 election had been stolen from Donald Trump.

So, as incredible as it may seem, it may be that many voters, especially in rural areas that have fewer news outlets to choose from, may not fully understand what Trump has said and done. The data bear that out. Just one in five voters, for example, knew that Donald Trump had said his claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election were grounds for him to terminate the Constitution.

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If you voted for Donald Trump this November and you understood that he plans to undermine the rule of law and wreck American democracy, then you are the problem. In one survey, one in four Republicans said that if Trump were to lose the 2024 election, he should declare the results invalid and do whatever necessary to take office. That’s un-American. If you are one of these voters, you can dress yourself up in red, white and blue and wave the flag all you want. But you are not a patriot. You are a danger to everything this country stands for…

[jfish26]

I’m wondering what that last paragraph’s folks are going to be like, if this goes to even medium-bad places.

[KUTradition]

you mean other than blaming Biden and the Dems?

[jfish26]

you mean other than blaming Biden and the Dems?

Probably, that’ll be the case. Or disengaged fatalism.

But I’m still (probably stupidly) holding out hope that that won’t universally be the case.

[KUTradition]

Fox News paid $787 million to settle a defamation claim

this is, perhaps, one of the most troubling things…it was proven that fox intentionally and knowingly lied to their viewers

did they lose viewership or influence as a result?

people like psych and randi (and ousdahl, quite frankly) don’t care about facts…their feelings are more important

juxtapose the behavior of fox viewers with those of morning joe, who can’t jump ship fast enough after the hosts went and licked the boots at mar a lago

[jfish26]

Or just compare/contrast with how the “sides” are taking the election results - based on what we saw in 2020, what would the Rs be doing today if Harris had only won in 2024 by Trump’s popular vote margin?

You don’t see Ds out there screeching about determinative fraud and election interference on every street corner, or threatening to shut down the Capitol.

And that is WITH all of the tangible foreign interference that occurred on election day.

[KUTradition]

except Sparko lol

[BiggDick]

Or just compare/contrast with how the “sides” are taking the election results - based on what we saw in 2020, what would the Rs be doing today if Harris had only won in 2024 by Trump’s popular vote margin?

You don’t see Ds out there screeching about determinative fraud and election interference on every street corner, or threatening to shut down the Capitol.

And that is WITH all of the tangible foreign interference that occurred on election day.

No, not on every street corner.

But there have been Ds out there screeching at least in a few places.

And it’s been allsome.

[DeletedUser]

except Sparko lol

LOL

I have also seen some Rs claiming the significant drop in total voted for Harris compared to Biden in 2020 is evidence that there were fake votes/ballots cast in that election.


So, the crazies are going to crazy, regardless.

[JKLivin]

Or just compare/contrast with how the “sides” are taking the election results - based on what we saw in 2020, what would the Rs be doing today if Harris had only won in 2024 by Trump’s popular vote margin?

You don’t see Ds out there screeching about determinative fraud and election interference on every street corner, or threatening to shut down the Capitol.

And that is WITH all of the tangible foreign interference that occurred on election day.

Lulz. Nope, you're doing the Dim version, i.e.
1.) "You didn't win by a big enough margin to use words like 'mandate.' You have to work with us!"
2.) The Electoral College is outdated and favors rural White conservative rubes who should be rounded up and exterminated anyway.
3.) It wasn't a "real" election. It was Russian interference.

[JKLivin]

except Sparko lol

LOL

I have also seen some Rs claiming the significant drop in total voted for Harris compared to Biden in 2020 is evidence that there were fake votes/ballots cast in that election.


So, the crazies are going to crazy, regardless.

It is uncanny how all of the votes that come in after the fact are tilted in Giggles' favor. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.