Israel/Palestine

[BiggDick]

oh, and like right now, as we speak...guess who's bombing the suburbs of Beirut?

[jfish26]

Paul Begala probably?

[BiggDick]

In the latest episode of,

“Oh so THIS is how it could get worse under Trump…”

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-829140

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

In the latest episode of,

“Oh so THIS is how it could get worse under Trump…”

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-829140

I'm a simpleton. I don't get it. What is "THIS" that could get worse under Trump?

[BiggDick]

When Israel/Lebanon conflict?

[MICHHAWK]

so i looked it up. the last time there was NOT conflict in the middle east was 1,327 years ago.

so. this is pretty standard stuff. they actually like it.

[Overlander]

so i looked it up. the last time there was NOT conflict in the middle east was 1,327 years ago.

so. this is pretty standard stuff. they actually like it.

Yeah, they definitely seem to be having a great time

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

When Israel/Lebanon conflict?

This is a much better article on the subject.
https://jewishcurrents.org/inside-the-m ... fon-israel

Here is where I am confused. Why do you feel Trump will make this and/or any other situation in the Middle East worse?
I thought Trump's desire is to end "the war/s" and help create "peace". Yes? No?
I thought he's already reached out to leaders. Yes? No?
I suppose - yes, if Israel was to take over southern Lebanon and create Israeli settlements things could be worse for the Lebanese who would be booted (during a Trump Presidency). No worse than if they stayed and continued to get the shit bombed out of them but yes, worse than it was before..... Before what?
Here is a crazy thought, while obviously not ideal, what if Israel said, we will pay for or have your government pay for you to move to a place where you can live comfortably in peace - or you can stay among the terrorists and there is a decent chance your home will be destroyed and/or you will die before we occupy the land?
Sort of like a reverse 2005.

[BiggDick]

Trump's offered this "end the war" rhetoric about the "wars" generally.

But he's also offered this cryptic "finish the job" rhetoric regarding Israel/Palestine.

And while he has been grossly cozy to Russia and their bullshit, he has been grossly NOT to anything Muslim.

and among other thoughts...it sucks but gutter's post is yet another example of how "terrorist" is a relative term.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Yes, "terrorists" come in all shapes and sizes. "Terrorism" is bad no matter how you slice it.
I prefer Trump not be cozy to Muslim terrorists, just as you prefer he not be cozy to Israeli (Jewish?) "terrorists".
If someone asked me to choose between Israeli's existence and Hezbollah, and Hamas', and Houthis', and.... existence, I'm going to chose Israel's 365/366 days a year. As bad of "terrorists" as they may (or may not) be.
Who's would you choose? Be honest.

[MICHHAWK]

i vote the middle east blows its'self off the earth. into smithereens.

they are working on it. maybe in another 900 years.

[KUTradition]

i vote michigan does the same

[BiggDick]

I'd rather Trump/our own government not be cozy to ANY "terrorists." And yea, there should be a distinction between Jewish people and Israelis, and Zionists. At least that's what my Jewish friends have told me. So, I guess to answer the question, I'll choose no terrorists.

As for the question of, "before what?", let's at least realize that Hezbollah and Hamas and Houthi are all fairly recent developments, which came to be AFTER the modern nation of Israel became a thing....for whatever that's worth.

But, the whole part about "we will pay for or have your government pay for you to move to a place where you can live comfortably in peace - or you can stay among the terrorists and there is a decent chance your home will be destroyed and/or you will die before we occupy the land..." That sounds like some kinda mob racketeering or something, doesn't it?

what next, maybe if I play ball and agree to your terms then maybe you offer me protection from these bricks being thrown thru my windows...?

[BiggDick]

also, now the Pope too is calling to investigate genocide allegations in Gaza

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

I'd rather Trump/our own government not be cozy to ANY "terrorists." And yea, there should be a distinction between Jewish people and Israelis, and Zionists. At least that's what my Jewish friends have told me. So, I guess to answer the question, I'll choose no terrorists.

As for the question of, "before what?", let's at least realize that Hezbollah and Hamas and Houthi are all fairly recent developments, which came to be AFTER the modern nation of Israel became a thing....for whatever that's worth.

But, the whole part about "we will pay for or have your government pay for you to move to a place where you can live comfortably in peace - or you can stay among the terrorists and there is a decent chance your home will be destroyed and/or you will die before we occupy the land..." That sounds like some kinda mob racketeering or something, doesn't it?

what next, maybe if I play ball and agree to your terms then maybe you offer me protection from these bricks being thrown thru my windows...?

I wrote a way too long response. I'll come up with a shorter one later.

[BiggDick]

ICC issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant