We lost the battle for the democrat party's soul long ago

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my 94 year old mother was able to maneuver the system rather effortlessly.

if you knew my mother, you would not be on the social medias bragging that your nephew was confounded by the system.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:30 am
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:52 am
DeletedUser wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:47 am
My bad. Yes, that's what I meant.
The stupidity continues, however. I just saw a Newsweek poll that says that Dim voters are overwhelmingly saying she should run again in 2028. You know, cuz landslide losses are usually anomalies.
This was one of the ten closest Presidential elections in history vote-wise and was nothing even remotely close to a landslide but cool story.
312 to 226 is not close, not matter how you try to rationalize. It was a clear mandate from the people, and the Dims will continue to ignore it to their own detriment.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:55 am Almost 50 million young people, defined here as ages 18 to 29, were eligible to vote in the 2024 election; according to the exit poll data, about 42% of them did. That percentage was on par with CIRCLE’s initial turnout estimate for 2016 (42%-44%) but lower than the historic turnout seen in 2020, which CIRCLE estimated at 52%-55%. In the key battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, the average turnout was much higher: 50% on aggregate.

It's the nonsense misinformation that we see Ousdahl repeat over and over (and over and over) here that pushed that voter turnout number down as low as it was.

If today's youth want to bitch about how hard life is for them then they should participate in the things necessary to make their lives easier by voting. If you don't vote then STFU and deal with the consequences.
Gosh, that sounds a lot like victim blaming, Two. Believe all potential voters!
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:lol:

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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:38 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:55 am Almost 50 million young people, defined here as ages 18 to 29, were eligible to vote in the 2024 election; according to the exit poll data, about 42% of them did. That percentage was on par with CIRCLE’s initial turnout estimate for 2016 (42%-44%) but lower than the historic turnout seen in 2020, which CIRCLE estimated at 52%-55%. In the key battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, the average turnout was much higher: 50% on aggregate.

It's the nonsense misinformation that we see Ousdahl repeat over and over (and over and over) here that pushed that voter turnout number down as low as it was.

If today's youth want to bitch about how hard life is for them then they should participate in the things necessary to make their lives easier by voting. If you don't vote then STFU and deal with the consequences.
Gosh, that sounds a lot like victim blaming, Two. Believe all potential voters!
"If you believe it to be true then it must be true" seems to be the new mantra for the GOP.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:11 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:38 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:55 am Almost 50 million young people, defined here as ages 18 to 29, were eligible to vote in the 2024 election; according to the exit poll data, about 42% of them did. That percentage was on par with CIRCLE’s initial turnout estimate for 2016 (42%-44%) but lower than the historic turnout seen in 2020, which CIRCLE estimated at 52%-55%. In the key battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, the average turnout was much higher: 50% on aggregate.

It's the nonsense misinformation that we see Ousdahl repeat over and over (and over and over) here that pushed that voter turnout number down as low as it was.

If today's youth want to bitch about how hard life is for them then they should participate in the things necessary to make their lives easier by voting. If you don't vote then STFU and deal with the consequences.
Gosh, that sounds a lot like victim blaming, Two. Believe all potential voters!
"If you believe it to be true then it must be true" seems to be the new mantra for the GOP.
It might be time to come to terms with two important facts: 1) your party nominated a mentally deficient, inarticulate imbecile who had no understanding of the platform she was supposedly running on, and 2) your party was concerned with DEI and trans rights when the electorate was concerned the price of gas, eggs, milk, and electricity and the illegal immigrant crisis. It's pretty hard to get excited about getting out to vote for someone who is selling you something that's about fifteen spots down your list of priorities.
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:17 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:11 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:38 am

Gosh, that sounds a lot like victim blaming, Two. Believe all potential voters!
"If you believe it to be true then it must be true" seems to be the new mantra for the GOP.
It might be time to come to terms with two important facts: 1) your party nominated a mentally deficient, inarticulate imbecile who had no understanding of the platform she was supposedly running on, and 2) your party was concerned with DEI and trans rights when the electorate was concerned the price of gas, eggs, milk, and electricity and the illegal immigrant crisis. It's pretty hard to get excited about getting out to vote for someone who is selling you something that's about fifteen spots down your list of priorities.
I heard virtually nothing from Harris about DEI or trans rights (except in Trump ads) when she was campaigning and I heard nothing now that makes me think that Trump is going to do anything but increase the cost of gas (which I [aid less than $2.50 a gallon for last weekend), eggs, milk and electricity. I hope you're not still under the mistaken notion that Drill Baby Drill is going to lower your electric bill any time soon. What might lower it is when Trump removes all regulatory items around coal plants and allows Big Oil to spew toxic chemicals into our air, land and water and that is most definitely not a win.

But yes, Dems would be wise to realize that there are a lot more people who vote solely for their own best interests and not for the best interests of our nation and all of its citizens. Not enough people in this country give a shit about such things as “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. Fuck women, fuck anyone who isn't heterosexual. They simply do not matter to enough people to make them a campaign talking point. Sad but true.
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Hey Twocoach, when are you and others on here going to stop worrying about what might or might not happen. It’s been said that a person should only worry about what they can control. Not sure about how much control you might have.
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dolomite wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:18 pm Hey Twocoach, when are you and others on here going to stop worrying about what might or might not happen. It’s been said that a person should only worry about what they can control. Not sure about how much control you might have.
why are you worrying about twocoach? you can’t control him?

me personally? i was always taught to hope for the best, but plan for the worst
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:17 pm
dolomite wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:18 pm Hey Twocoach, when are you and others on here going to stop worrying about what might or might not happen. It’s been said that a person should only worry about what they can control. Not sure about how much control you might have.
why are you worrying about twocoach? you can’t control him?

me personally? i was always taught to hope for the best, but plan for the worst
Read my thoughts on “hope”.
Originally Imzcount (Why do politicians think “hope” is a plan ?)
“Avoid the foolish notion of hope. Hope is the surrender of authority to your fate and trusting it to the whims of the wind”.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:23 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:17 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:11 pm

"If you believe it to be true then it must be true" seems to be the new mantra for the GOP.
It might be time to come to terms with two important facts: 1) your party nominated a mentally deficient, inarticulate imbecile who had no understanding of the platform she was supposedly running on, and 2) your party was concerned with DEI and trans rights when the electorate was concerned the price of gas, eggs, milk, and electricity and the illegal immigrant crisis. It's pretty hard to get excited about getting out to vote for someone who is selling you something that's about fifteen spots down your list of priorities.
I heard virtually nothing from Harris about DEI or trans rights (except in Trump ads) when she was campaigning and I heard nothing now that makes me think that Trump is going to do anything but increase the cost of gas (which I [aid less than $2.50 a gallon for last weekend), eggs, milk and electricity. I hope you're not still under the mistaken notion that Drill Baby Drill is going to lower your electric bill any time soon. What might lower it is when Trump removes all regulatory items around coal plants and allows Big Oil to spew toxic chemicals into our air, land and water and that is most definitely not a win.

But yes, Dems would be wise to realize that there are a lot more people who vote solely for their own best interests and not for the best interests of our nation and all of its citizens. Not enough people in this country give a shit about such things as “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. Fuck women, fuck anyone who isn't heterosexual. They simply do not matter to enough people to make them a campaign talking point. Sad but true.
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JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:37 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:30 am
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:52 am

The stupidity continues, however. I just saw a Newsweek poll that says that Dim voters are overwhelmingly saying she should run again in 2028. You know, cuz landslide losses are usually anomalies.
This was one of the ten closest Presidential elections in history vote-wise and was nothing even remotely close to a landslide but cool story.
312 to 226 is not close, not matter how you try to rationalize. It was a clear mandate from the people, and the Dims will continue to ignore it to their own detriment.
More people voted for not-Trump than Trump.

Congratulations on the plurality victory. Sounds like something KSU paints banners for.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:13 pm
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:37 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:30 am
This was one of the ten closest Presidential elections in history vote-wise and was nothing even remotely close to a landslide but cool story.
312 to 226 is not close, not matter how you try to rationalize. It was a clear mandate from the people, and the Dims will continue to ignore it to their own detriment.
More people voted for not-Trump than Trump.

Congratulations on the plurality victory. Sounds like something KSU paints banners for.
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