We lost the battle for the democrat party's soul long ago

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twocoach wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:31 am
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:16 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:23 pm

I heard virtually nothing from Harris about DEI or trans rights (except in Trump ads) when she was campaigning and I heard nothing now that makes me think that Trump is going to do anything but increase the cost of gas (which I [aid less than $2.50 a gallon for last weekend), eggs, milk and electricity. I hope you're not still under the mistaken notion that Drill Baby Drill is going to lower your electric bill any time soon. What might lower it is when Trump removes all regulatory items around coal plants and allows Big Oil to spew toxic chemicals into our air, land and water and that is most definitely not a win.

But yes, Dems would be wise to realize that there are a lot more people who vote solely for their own best interests and not for the best interests of our nation and all of its citizens. Not enough people in this country give a shit about such things as “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. Fuck women, fuck anyone who isn't heterosexual. They simply do not matter to enough people to make them a campaign talking point. Sad but true.
I unapologetically vote for my own best interests. It’s not like anyone is going to do it for me.
Isn't the complaint about DEI that it doesn't result in the best, most qualified person getting the job? Isn't the fact that Trump's requirement for a Cabinet selection be that you are white and loyal to Trump, not that you're the most qualified, just more usage of DEI-like mindset? Absolutely NO ONE could possibly argue that his Cabinet picks are the most qualified persons.
We’re in the Heads I Win, Tails You Lose era of American history.

This particular hypocrisy won’t have any more traction than the rest of them.

TDS is absolutely a thing. A thing that, like so many others, actually exists among those who accuse others of suffering from it.
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twocoach wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:31 am
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:16 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:23 pm

I heard virtually nothing from Harris about DEI or trans rights (except in Trump ads) when she was campaigning and I heard nothing now that makes me think that Trump is going to do anything but increase the cost of gas (which I [aid less than $2.50 a gallon for last weekend), eggs, milk and electricity. I hope you're not still under the mistaken notion that Drill Baby Drill is going to lower your electric bill any time soon. What might lower it is when Trump removes all regulatory items around coal plants and allows Big Oil to spew toxic chemicals into our air, land and water and that is most definitely not a win.

But yes, Dems would be wise to realize that there are a lot more people who vote solely for their own best interests and not for the best interests of our nation and all of its citizens. Not enough people in this country give a shit about such things as “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. Fuck women, fuck anyone who isn't heterosexual. They simply do not matter to enough people to make them a campaign talking point. Sad but true.
I unapologetically vote for my own best interests. It’s not like anyone is going to do it for me.
Isn't the complaint about DEI that it doesn't result in the best, most qualified person getting the job? Isn't the fact that Trump's requirement for a Cabinet selection be that you are white and loyal to Trump, not that you're the most qualified, just more usage of DEI-like mindset? Absolutely NO ONE could possibly argue that his Cabinet picks are the most qualified persons.

Where are all the MAGA complaints now?
I have no complaints at the moment. If we end up in a nuclear holocaust, I’ll check back with you.
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giggles

psych’s dishonest, lying ass wouldn’t admit to any such thing
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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JKLivin wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:58 am
twocoach wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:31 am
JKLivin wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:16 pm

I unapologetically vote for my own best interests. It’s not like anyone is going to do it for me.
Isn't the complaint about DEI that it doesn't result in the best, most qualified person getting the job? Isn't the fact that Trump's requirement for a Cabinet selection be that you are white and loyal to Trump, not that you're the most qualified, just more usage of DEI-like mindset? Absolutely NO ONE could possibly argue that his Cabinet picks are the most qualified persons.

Where are all the MAGA complaints now?
I have no complaints at the moment. If we end up in a nuclear holocaust, I’ll check back with you.
Well obviously you no longer have a problem with it. It feels like being white is viewed as a positive, not a negative.

Just understand that your issue with DEI is that, and not that you're mad the most qualified person isn't being picked.
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Being white shouldn't be a positive or a negative.
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shouldn’t
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Does the DNC know that?
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dumb
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twocoach wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:23 am
JKLivin wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:58 am
twocoach wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:31 am
Isn't the complaint about DEI that it doesn't result in the best, most qualified person getting the job? Isn't the fact that Trump's requirement for a Cabinet selection be that you are white and loyal to Trump, not that you're the most qualified, just more usage of DEI-like mindset? Absolutely NO ONE could possibly argue that his Cabinet picks are the most qualified persons.

Where are all the MAGA complaints now?
I have no complaints at the moment. If we end up in a nuclear holocaust, I’ll check back with you.
Well obviously you no longer have a problem with it. It feels like being white is viewed as a positive, not a negative.

Just understand that your issue with DEI is that, and not that you're mad the most qualified person isn't being picked.
Why would I be okay with being White being viewed as a negative? Of course that's not okay, and to expect me to join in the soyboy self-flagellation is ridiculous. That's just horsecrap thinking.
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if i were the demonrats. i would spend less time blubberyapping on the interwebs. and more time workshopping on why i was so grotesquely rejected by the folks.

more reflection. less yapping.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:05 am if i were the demonrats. i would spend less time blubberyapping on the interwebs. and more time workshopping on why i was so grotesquely rejected by the folks.

more reflection. less yapping.
1.68% and dropping, bub
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"blubberyapping"
Pure comedic genius.
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did the right do any self-reflection after Biden’s “grotesquely” yuge win?

fuck no…they doubled down on the lies, hate, and division
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they lost in 20. won in 24. I would say they did some productive self reflection.

wouldn’t you.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:55 am they lost in 20. won in 24. I would say they did some productive self reflection.

wouldn’t you.
Not as much as I might say Larry perfectly represents the Dems sentiment waking up in the morning on November 6th.

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No not really. I don’t think they did any reflection at all!

Pubs just doubled down on the same kooky shit they won with in 16 and almost did again in 20, but now with how many felony convictions and other pending legal troubles to shrug off too.

Tho now they also had the challenger’s momentum, with the incumbent not only being in the big chair for inflation but also addressing the inflation with a messaging strategy along the lines of ACTUALLY THE ECONOMY’S DOING GREAT AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO YER STOOPID

I think dems lost it more than pubs won it
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MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:05 am if i were the demonrats. i would spend less time blubberyapping on the interwebs. and more time workshopping on why i was so grotesquely rejected by the folks.

more reflection. less yapping.
You seem to be under some sort of impression that the people who use this site are in some sort of position to affect the Democratic Platform.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:55 am they lost in 20. won in 24. I would say they did some productive self reflection.

wouldn’t you.
Self reflection? That's hilarious. No, they didn't change anything about their plan. They just figured out how to force feed it further down more people's throat. Their 2024 plan is even worse than the plan they lost with in '20.
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I think the single biggest difference for pubs 20 vs 24 was the headwind of Covid vs the tailwind of Bidenflation.

I’m tempted to also add other controversial issues with less priority than the economy, but keys not even bother
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I am well aware of the lack of position possessed by the 10 looney left dingdongs that troll this site.
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