We lost the battle for the democrat party's soul long ago

[defixione]

I think the single biggest difference for pubs 20 vs 24 was the headwind of Covid vs the tailwind of Trumpflation.

I’m tempted to also add other controversial issues with less priority than the economy, but keys not even bother

[jfish26]

they lost in 20. won in 24. I would say they did some productive self reflection.

wouldn’t you.

Self reflection? That's hilarious. No, they didn't change anything about their plan. They just figured out how to force feed it further down more people's throat. Their 2024 plan is even worse than the plan they lost with in '20.

To be fair, running a much more honest campaign in '24 actually seems to have worked out pretty well. No one ever went broke etc etc.

[JKLivin]

I heard virtually nothing from Harris about DEI or trans rights (except in Trump ads) when she was campaigning and I heard nothing now that makes me think that Trump is going to do anything but increase the cost of gas (which I [aid less than $2.50 a gallon for last weekend), eggs, milk and electricity. I hope you're not still under the mistaken notion that Drill Baby Drill is going to lower your electric bill any time soon. What might lower it is when Trump removes all regulatory items around coal plants and allows Big Oil to spew toxic chemicals into our air, land and water and that is most definitely not a win.

But yes, Dems would be wise to realize that there are a lot more people who vote solely for their own best interests and not for the best interests of our nation and all of its citizens. Not enough people in this country give a shit about such things as “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. Fuck women, fuck anyone who isn't heterosexual. They simply do not matter to enough people to make them a campaign talking point. Sad but true.

I unapologetically vote for my own best interests. It’s not like anyone is going to do it for me.

Isn't the complaint about DEI that it doesn't result in the best, most qualified person getting the job? Isn't the fact that Trump's requirement for a Cabinet selection be that you are white and loyal to Trump, not that you're the most qualified, just more usage of DEI-like mindset? Absolutely NO ONE could possibly argue that his Cabinet picks are the most qualified persons.

Where are all the MAGA complaints now?

With the exception of Gaetz, I’m satisfied with his candidates. I believe he has a female Chief of Staff and just nominated a female AG. As Giggles proved, picking a candidate based on the color of her skin and having two X chromosomes is not a good strategy.

[JKLivin]

they lost in 20. won in 24. I would say they did some productive self reflection.

wouldn’t you.

Self reflection? That's hilarious. No, they didn't change anything about their plan. They just figured out how to force feed it further down more people's throat. Their 2024 plan is even worse than the plan they lost with in '20.

To be fair, running a much more honest campaign in '24 actually seems to have worked out pretty well. No one ever went broke etc etc.

I read somewhere that Giggles ended up $20 million in the hole. That’s a lot of bj’s.

[KUTradition]

Self reflection? That's hilarious. No, they didn't change anything about their plan. They just figured out how to force feed it further down more people's throat. Their 2024 plan is even worse than the plan they lost with in '20.

To be fair, running a much more honest campaign in '24 actually seems to have worked out pretty well. No one ever went broke etc etc.

I read somewhere that Giggles ended up $20 million in the hole. That’s a lot of bj’s.

misogynist prick

[Overlander]

Self reflection? That's hilarious. No, they didn't change anything about their plan. They just figured out how to force feed it further down more people's throat. Their 2024 plan is even worse than the plan they lost with in '20.

To be fair, running a much more honest campaign in '24 actually seems to have worked out pretty well. No one ever went broke etc etc.

I read somewhere that Giggles ended up $20 million in the hole. That’s a lot of bj’s.

You are a piece of shit

[JKLivin]

To be fair, running a much more honest campaign in '24 actually seems to have worked out pretty well. No one ever went broke etc etc.

I read somewhere that Giggles ended up $20 million in the hole. That’s a lot of bj’s.

You are a piece of shit

Did that trigger you?

[Overlander]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

You have a wife? Daughters?

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

You have a wife? Daughters?

Yeah, well in his defense, he fits right in with many if not most Republican/"Conservative" Christian Americans today.
Before someone may bring my being raised a Jew and Jews in to this, I'm not a fan of many/most American (and other nationalities) Jews either.

I'm going to guess JK/Psych has made at least 300 posts on this site in regards to Kamala - of which 250+ were degrading in some manner.
That's fine and dandy but I can't help but wonder if Psych feels it would be ok with him if I were to say the same things about his wife and daughter/s.
I say that having two thoughts. I'll keep them to myself.
I wouldn't be surprised if Psych responded with something such as his wife isn't stupid and his daughter(s?) isn't a whore. Maybe so but.....
If I recall correctly (I may not), at one point he was married to (his first wife) what he feels Kamala is.
Maybe that has something to do with his excessive need to express his negative feelings about Kamala Harris on here? HMMMMM.
I don't know. Maybe I am completely wrong. He's the Psych guy. I'll let him analyze himself and figure it out if he chooses to.

Moving on......
In the past week I was directly and indirectly involved with many former and current Democratic politicians. Each one I am very fond of - to different degrees.
There is a guy who I believe will be elected the next Mayor of Chicago if he chooses to run for Mayor.
If he does run and wins - I have a feeling after serving a term, if he was successful (in a job it's very difficult to be successful in) he very well might run for President, and I feel would be a great "face" (and mind) of/for the Democratic Party in 6, 8, 10, 12 years.

[KUTradition]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

i’ve got more integrity in my pubes

[JKLivin]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

You have a wife? Daughters?

Sexual promiscuity is very anti-Christian, in case you were wondering. My condemnation of her behavior is entirely in line with my religious beliefs.

I do, indeed. One wife; two daughters. None of them has ever exchanged sexual favors for career advancement, and if they did, I would condemn that as well.

[JKLivin]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

You have a wife? Daughters?

I don't know. Maybe I am completely wrong. He's the Psych guy. I'll let him analyze himself and figure it out if he chooses to.

Good choice. I'd stick with that.

[jfish26]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

You have a wife? Daughters?

Sexual promiscuity is very anti-Christian, in case you were wondering. My condemnation of her behavior is entirely in line with my religious beliefs.

I do, indeed. One wife; two daughters. None of them has ever exchanged sexual favors for career advancement, and if they did, I would condemn that as well.

So, with respect to your values and how they shape your support of political figures, you have drawn a line somewhere between “involved in financial transactions concerning sex with teenagers” and … what sure seems like awfully comparable conduct by others you continue to support.

If you object to me putting words in your mouth, of course that’s fine - but in that case, please explain how you differentiate between, for example, Gaetz and Trump.

[JKLivin]

No, it just proves, yet again that your claims to be “Christian “ are no more than cover.

You have a wife? Daughters?

Sexual promiscuity is very anti-Christian, in case you were wondering. My condemnation of her behavior is entirely in line with my religious beliefs.

I do, indeed. One wife; two daughters. None of them has ever exchanged sexual favors for career advancement, and if they did, I would condemn that as well.

So, with respect to your values and how they shape your support of political figures, you have drawn a line somewhere between “involved in financial transactions concerning sex with teenagers” and … what sure seems like awfully comparable conduct by others you continue to support.

If you object to me putting words in your mouth, of course that’s fine - but in that case, please explain how you differentiate between, for example, Gaetz and Trump.

Life is a series of compromises. I feel better about what Trump will do as POTUS than Giggles. That’s the dividing line.

[jfish26]

Sexual promiscuity is very anti-Christian, in case you were wondering. My condemnation of her behavior is entirely in line with my religious beliefs.

I do, indeed. One wife; two daughters. None of them has ever exchanged sexual favors for career advancement, and if they did, I would condemn that as well.

So, with respect to your values and how they shape your support of political figures, you have drawn a line somewhere between “involved in financial transactions concerning sex with teenagers” and … what sure seems like awfully comparable conduct by others you continue to support.

If you object to me putting words in your mouth, of course that’s fine - but in that case, please explain how you differentiate between, for example, Gaetz and Trump.

Life is a series of compromises. I feel better about what Trump will do as POTUS than Giggles. That’s the dividing line.

So, Trump’s character would be disqualifying for a less important job?

[JKLivin]

So, with respect to your values and how they shape your support of political figures, you have drawn a line somewhere between “involved in financial transactions concerning sex with teenagers” and … what sure seems like awfully comparable conduct by others you continue to support.

If you object to me putting words in your mouth, of course that’s fine - but in that case, please explain how you differentiate between, for example, Gaetz and Trump.

Life is a series of compromises. I feel better about what Trump will do as POTUS than Giggles. That’s the dividing line.

So, Trump’s character would be disqualifying for a less important job?

As I’ve said before, I don’t like Trump. I don’t think he’s honorable. I don’t think he is a good person. If I had the freedom to create a list of people I would want as POTUS, he would not be on it.

But. We had a choice between two people, and, to me, the lesser of the evils was clear.

It is not a Red/Blue issue for me. The 1992 version of Bill Clinton was great. I voted for him. Then, he became a Swamp- dweller like the rest of them.

I have said, and will continue to say, that we, as a nation, can do better than Trump vs. Giggles. I hope we will do so in my lifetime.

[jfish26]

Life is a series of compromises. I feel better about what Trump will do as POTUS than Giggles. That’s the dividing line.

So, Trump’s character would be disqualifying for a less important job?

As I’ve said before, I don’t like Trump. I don’t think he’s honorable. I don’t think he is a good person. If I had the freedom to create a list of people I would want as POTUS, he would not be on it.

But. We had a choice between two people, and, to me, the lesser of the evils was clear.

It is not a Red/Blue issue for me. The 1992 version of Bill Clinton was great. I voted for him. Then, he became a Swamp- dweller like the rest of them.

I have said, and will continue to say, that we, as a nation, can do better than Trump vs. Giggles. I hope we will do so in my lifetime.

So that’s a yes, then?

[Overlander]

So, the allegations about Harris you trumpet as fact.

The allegations about Gaetz are unproven and uncharged.

But you are DEFINITELY not a misogynist.

Odd

[jfish26]

So, the allegations about Harris you trumpet as fact.

The allegations about Gaetz are unproven and uncharged.

But you are DEFINITELY not a misogynist.

Odd

And, stepping back, what exactly ARE the allegations about Harris? In other words - taking them as true…what result exactly?

This false equivalence is exactly like so many others.