Hunter

[BiggDick]

It would be either the most Catholic thing he’s done, or the least Catholic thing he’s done.

But maybe that belongs in the pro-life thread.

[dolomite]

If I am Hunter I’d throw a big party right about now. Yeeehawwww!!!

[Shirley]

Democrat voters: making a life out of being gaslit and lied to, and still being obedient. What's that like?

it's like, surprisingly similar to being a Republican voter.

Fuck you.

Don't ever compare me to a Republican.

[Shirley]

This:

[DeletedUser]

I'd do it (pardon) for my kid(s). But I'd also help my kid(s) hide a body. So there's that.

[dolomite]

Personally I really don’t give a big crap if Hunter is pardoned or not, and I’m sure there are many others who share my sentiment.

[MICHHAWK]

i share your sentiment.

[Shirley]

NSFW

[Shirley]

[JKLivin]

If I am Hunter I’d throw a big party right about now. Yeeehawwww!!!

With lotsa blow and strippers and State secrets on laptops!

[KUTradition]

better than in the shitter

[Overlander]

better than in the shitter

Or traded

[jfish26]

I do keep coming back to the substance of Asha Rangappa's quote in the middle here.

While Joe very very obviously never should have said he wouldn't pardon Hunter, I also think it's critical to understand that nobody - nobody - can have any confidence that actual, provable innocence, even so far as being able to PROVE a negative, will be enough, in light of the immunity newly-created in the executive.

December 2, 2024

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ber-2-2024

[...]

[Last] night, President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden after repeatedly saying that he would not.

Trump-appointed Special Counsel David Weiss charged Hunter Biden on firearms and tax charges, but as former U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance made clear in her Civil Discourse, Hunter Biden would not have been charged if he had been anyone other than the president’s son. He was charged with possession of a firearm by someone who is addicted to illegal drugs, a charge that prosecutors do not usually bring. Biden owned a gun for eleven days and apparently lied on the paperwork for it by saying he was not a drug addict when he was, in fact, in the throes of addiction.

The other charges stem from Hunter Biden’s failure, while dealing with addiction, to pay about $1.4 million in federal income taxes, which he has since paid in full plus interest and penalties. Vance explains that the government usually handles cases like his with administrative or civil penalties rather than criminal prosecution, as it did in the case of Trump henchman Roger Stone, with whom the government reached a settlement in 2022 for more than $2 million in unpaid income taxes, interest, and penalties without criminal charges.

But President Biden’s pardon covers not just those charges, but also “those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024.” The pardon’s sweeping scope offers an explanation for why Biden issued it after saying he would not.

Ron Filipkowski of MeidasTouch notes that Biden’s pardon came after Trump’s announcement that he wants to place conspiracy theorist Kash Patel at the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Filipkowski studies right-wing media and points out that Patel’s many appearances there suggest he is obsessed with Hunter Biden, especially the story of his laptop, which Patel insists shows that Hunter and Joe Biden engaged in crimes with Ukraine and China.

House Oversight Committee chair James Comer (R-KY) spent two years investigating these allegations and turned up nothing—although Republican representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia used the opportunity to display pictures of Hunter Biden naked on national media—yet Patel insists that the Department of Justice should focus on Hunter Biden as soon as a Trump loyalist is back in charge.

Notably, Trump’s people, including former lawyer Rudy Giuliani and his ally Lev Parnas, spent more than a year trying to promote false testimony against Hunter Biden by their Ukrainian allies. Earlier this year, in the documentary From Russia with Lev, produced by Rachel Maddow, Parnas publicly apologized to Hunter Biden for his role in the scheme.

As legal commentator Asha Rangappa noted: “People criticizing the Hunter Biden pardon need to recognize: For the 1st time, the FBI and Justice Department could literally fabricate evidence, or collaborate with a foreign government to ‘find’ evidence of a ‘crime,’ with zero accountability. That’s why the pardon goes back to 2014.”

And yet, much of American media today has been consumed not with the story that Trump has appointed a deeply problematic candidate to run what could be considered the nation’s most important department, overseeing about 3 million personnel and managing a budget of more than $800 billion, or with the reality that Biden’s distrust of our legal system under Trump is a profound warning for all of us.

Instead, they have focused on President Biden’s pardon of his son, many of them condemning what they say is Biden’s rejection of the rule of law.

Some have suggested that Biden’s pardoning his son will now give Trump license to pardon anyone he wants, apparently forgetting that in his first term, Trump pardoned his daughter Ivanka’s father-in-law, Charles Kushner, who pleaded guilty to federal charges of tax evasion, campaign finance offenses, and witness tampering and whom Trump has now tapped to become the U.S. ambassador to France.

Trump also pardoned for various crimes men who were associated with the ties between the 2016 Trump campaign and the Russian operatives working to elect Trump. Those included his former national security advisor Michael Flynn, former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and former allies Roger Stone and Steve Bannon. Those pardons, which suggested Trump was rewarding henchmen, received a fraction of the attention lavished on Biden’s pardon of his son.

In today’s news coverage, the exercise of the presidential pardon—which traditionally gets very little attention—has entirely outweighed the dangerous nominations of an incoming president, which will have profound influence on the American people. This imbalance reflects a longstanding and classic power dynamic in which Republicans set the terms of public debate, excusing their own objectionable behavior while constantly attacking Democrats in a fiery display that attracts media attention but distorts reality.

The degree to which the media endorsed that abusive power dynamic today does not bode well for its accurate reporting during Trump’s upcoming term. It also leaves the public badly informed about matters that are important for understanding modern politics.

[Shirley]

Hunter Biden got a “Parton” from his dad… and nobody cares, because you all have made it absolutely impossible to care.

NSFW

[randylahey]

So when are you guys ready to go down the rabbit hole... why does the pardon go back to 2014?

[Shirley]

So when are you guys ready to go down the rabbit hole... why does the pardon go back to 2014?

Because your cult has no bottom. Nothing is beneath you.

Electing a convicted felon like Trump who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power after he lost, by force, for the first time in our nation's history, is all the evidence needed, but there's an endless supply of more.

[Overlander]

So when are you guys ready to go down the rabbit hole... why does the pardon go back to 2014?

Because your cult has no bottom. Nothing is beneath you.

Electing a convicted felon like Trump who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power after he lost, by force, for the first time in our nation's history, is all the evidence needed, but there's an endless supply of more.

Amplified by a cabinet hell bent on punishment for crimes as severe as speaking out.
I don't like what Joe did, but I 100% understand why.

Anyone want to guess how much will be accomplished in the next 2 years? While our "government" is too busy prosecuting to govern?

[jfish26]

So when are you guys ready to go down the rabbit hole... why does the pardon go back to 2014?

Because Hunter did not join the illuminati until 2015, duh. Everyone knows this. You just have to do your own research.

[randylahey]

So when are you guys ready to go down the rabbit hole... why does the pardon go back to 2014?

Because your cult has no bottom. Nothing is beneath you.

Electing a convicted felon like Trump who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power after he lost, by force, for the first time in our nation's history, is all the evidence needed, but there's an endless supply of more.

This has absolutely nothing to do with trump. You have a weird obsession. But go research what was going on in Ukraine in 2014. And it explains a lot of what has happened since then. Then answer why the pardon goes back to 2014

Shady people doing shady dealings on the US taxpayers dollar. Supposedly hunter was going public with lots of damning information on his father and others, and used that to leverage/blackmail himself into a pardon

Biden didn't want to pardon him, because of the terrible look

[randylahey]

So when are you guys ready to go down the rabbit hole... why does the pardon go back to 2014?

Because your cult has no bottom. Nothing is beneath you.

Electing a convicted felon like Trump who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power after he lost, by force, for the first time in our nation's history, is all the evidence needed, but there's an endless supply of more.

Amplified by a cabinet hell bent on punishment for crimes as severe as speaking out.
I don't like what Joe did, but I 100% understand why.

Anyone want to guess how much will be accomplished in the next 2 years? While our "government" is too busy prosecuting to govern?

Project much? Haven't you learned your lesson yet?