trumpty plumpty

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JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:27 pm
Overlander wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:14 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:08 pm

You clearly believe that the persona you've created for the boreds is real.
That is funny coming from you.

I negotiate nearly every day. I have been in top level management of companies that do 90-900 million in annual revenue.

It isn’t a persona, it’s just me.

But please, keep flailing.

I'll trust men like Trump and Musk who see $900 million as pocket change.
This is all you needed to say.
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JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:27 pm
Overlander wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:14 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:08 pm

You clearly believe that the persona you've created for the boreds is real.
That is funny coming from you.

I negotiate nearly every day. I have been in top level management of companies that do 90-900 million in annual revenue.

It isn’t a persona, it’s just me.

But please, keep flailing.
1.) You always feel the need to give me (among others) your resume'. That says a lot more than you realize. And it's not good.
2.) You use the past tense a lot when doing so. That also says a lot.
3.) You (wrongly) assume that your experience and knowledge trumps (no pun intended) that of everyone else, when you know next to nothing about the people you keep trying to insult and belittle.

I needed to come back to this.

1) You made the comment about my “business acumen”. I am in business, have been almost half of my life. I do have a degree of success (and failures) as such.
I do feel that people who make comments on business and economics that have very little real world experience working in fields that rely on a knowledge of such workings are doing so based on the words, YouTube’s and memes of others who do not.

It would be no different than Randy saying my wife doesn’t know what she is talking about with regards to microbiology Or, me telling you about psychology.

2) I use past tense because I am in the twilight of my career. My days of the long hours, high pressure and travel are behind me. My current project is one of passion, of legacy. If you want to consider this a sign of failure of some sort, so be it.

3) I don’t understand this comment. If I say I have experience with high value negotiation, business management, and even what it takes to build a business, there are a couple of people on this board I know that have had experience doing the same…and they may know more about it than me. The fact that you are not one of them seems to affect you deeply, not my intention.

I will say this, with 100% conviction. Trump has no plans to do 75% of the bullshit he says he is going to. The mere fact that you believe him is all he needed. You will go to your grave believing Trump (and somehow by association you) actually did win those battles.

And the Mexican that digs your grave will know he just buried a Rube.
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No grave. Just the plan to have graves dug if the body is found and identified.
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JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:20 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:51 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:57 am

It’s his thing. Make an outrageous demand so you can get the less outrageous one you were after to begin with. Panama will get the message loud and clear.
One of these days someone is going to say no.

And at that time, then your whole theory of things depends on whether Trump will or will not stick to his guns. And either option is bad for us.
Possible. I appreciate that it is a marked departure from the Obiden foreign policy, which was essentially, “How far do you want us to bend over?” A middle ground would be best, but it is what it is.
This has nothing to do with US foreign policy and is solely to appease some billionaire who doesn't want to pay as much for his cargo ships to go through the Panama Canal. I doubt that it is a coincidence that talk of the Panama Canal started up after Jeff Bezos met with Trump. No doubt that it would benefit Amazon tremendously to reduce those expenses.
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trumps (again) gonna buy Greenland, too

:lol:

"For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity.”

wut
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JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:37 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:27 pm Among the many problems with your way of thinking is that the people you put in charge would not count you, or any of us reading this, among their “we.”

Even when used in the broadest possible sense.

Someone who thinks economic prosperity is a zero sum game should recognize the implications.
But Giggles and Tampon Tim would fight for us? Lulz.
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:lol:
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Coincidence. Otherwise it would be purely extortionist.
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KUTradition wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:45 am trumps (again) gonna buy Greenland, too

:lol:

"For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity.”

wut
Being out of the White House the last 4 years has him starting to think about his legacy as President. In his syphilis-addled brain, being the President to expand the territory of the US is a lot better than being the President who bungled covid and killed hundreds of thousands of people.
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did anyone here (or anywhere) vote for musk?

One House Republican declared, “It feels like as if Elon Musk is our prime minister.” The closer one looks, the worse the comment appears.
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KUTradition wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:22 am did anyone here (or anywhere) vote for musk?

One House Republican declared, “It feels like as if Elon Musk is our prime minister.” The closer one looks, the worse the comment appears.
I hesitate to say this out loud, because sometimes dreams are so fragile, but - there is absolutely a result here where a Musk-Trump feud, in combination with a divided Republican caucus with no room to spare, ends up being about as least-bad an outcome as one could expect for 2025-2026.

Don't misread: this is still very bad. But so much less-bad than nearly every other alternative.
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Trump has a huge debt to Musk.
Trump has a whole lot of debt owed to a whole lot of people that make him compromised.

It doesn't matter though, owning the Libs was the point all along.
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:34 am
KUTradition wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:22 am did anyone here (or anywhere) vote for musk?

One House Republican declared, “It feels like as if Elon Musk is our prime minister.” The closer one looks, the worse the comment appears.
I hesitate to say this out loud, because sometimes dreams are so fragile, but - there is absolutely a result here where a Musk-Trump feud, in combination with a divided Republican caucus with no room to spare, ends up being about as least-bad an outcome as one could expect for 2025-2026.

Don't misread: this is still very bad. But so much less-bad than nearly every other alternative.
My feelings as well.
I see the first 2 years of Trump being his lackeys running wild, and Donnie making Truth Social posts from the golf course in support / disdain.

Of course, I fully expect him to start his rallies back up around April.
His tender heart will need those cheers of affirmation.

Around the mid terms, Putin will drop an A Bomb on the Trump World. And it would not surprise me to see Musk leading the Putin offensive.
Chaos.
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Musk should never have signed the pact with Von Ribbontrump. Not sure he shouldn't be looking to move on from the U.S. (cough, confiscated wealth), instead of buying up Brownsville for his Stepford hoard.
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Sparko wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:25 pm Musk should never have signed the pact with Von Ribbontrump. Not sure he shouldn't be looking to move on from the U.S. (cough, confiscated wealth), instead of buying up Brownsville for his Stepford hoard.
I mean - why? He bought something like partial-custody over the federal government, and all it cost him was $44b and change.

Seems like a pretty great result.
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JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:27 pm
I'll trust men like Trump and Musk who see $900 million as pocket change. If that's flailing in your book, I guess I'll just find a way to keep existing somehow.
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:27 pm
I'll trust men like Trump and Musk who see $900 million as pocket change. If that's flailing in your book, I guess I'll just find a way to keep existing somehow.
Pretty sure Ted Nugent already has dibs.
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JKLivin wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:46 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:27 pm
I'll trust men like Trump and Musk who see $900 million as pocket change. If that's flailing in your book, I guess I'll just find a way to keep existing somehow.
Pretty sure QVC already has dibs.
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:27 pm
I'll trust men like Trump and Musk who see $900 million as pocket change. If that's flailing in your book, I guess I'll just find a way to keep existing somehow.
So Presidential
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You would think someone who sees $900,000,000 as pocket change would not demean himself by selling knockoff guitars for $1,250+ each, and adding $9,250-$10,000 for his signature.

Of course, Trump does a great many things that someone who is actually wealthy would not do.
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