Clearly.
You seem to have more juice when you are TRUMPeting fairy tales!
Clearly.
He doesn’t do briefings.
He’s replacing a guy whose most famous words were, “My butt’s been wiped!” So, the bar for improvement was already fairly low.Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:02 pmHe doesn’t do briefings.
As the smartest man EVER, he doesn’t need them.
“No one knows more about ___________ than me” DJT
So, the guy with shitty pants narrowly beat out the guy who had his butt wiped?JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:29 pmHe’s replacing a guy whose most famous words were, “My butt’s been wiped!” So, the bar for improvement was already fairly low.Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:02 pmHe doesn’t do briefings.
As the smartest man EVER, he doesn’t need them.
“No one knows more about ___________ than me” DJT
What's funny is that for all of the bad-faith-justification blather you'll hear about this being different because this is about highly-educated and productive immigrants...the truth is that Elon & Pals want these immigrants for the same reasons that farms and factories want theirs.
well that....and...jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:24 amWhat's funny is that for all of the bad-faith-justification blather you'll hear about this being different because this is about highly-educated and productive immigrants...the truth is that Elon & Pals want these immigrants for the same reasons that farms and factories want theirs.
The cost:quality ratio, and the power (im)balance, is simply more favorable to the employer with immigrants than with citizens.
I saw the first wave of the use of overseas engineering a little over 20 years ago. At that point there were engineering firms in India who would produce the calculations/design/construction documents for US projects at a cost of about 1/3 of what we could do it in-house. A couple of my partners thought maybe we could layoff a hundred engineers and make a better profit outsourcing our services. Most of us dismissed the idea on professional ethics reasons. There was a way to do it legally, but we felt it was a breech we didn't want make.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:24 amWhat's funny is that for all of the bad-faith-justification blather you'll hear about this being different because this is about highly-educated and productive immigrants...the truth is that Elon & Pals want these immigrants for the same reasons that farms and factories want theirs.
The cost:quality ratio, and the power (im)balance, is simply more favorable to the employer with immigrants than with citizens.
He’s obviously referring to people who come in legally and who have skills that are necessary for the success of the country. I’m guessing you knew that already, though.
is agriculture necessary to the success of the country?
Agriculture is increasingly mechanized. That arena is rapidly changing. I don’t think migrant workers will be the initial focus. Criminals and habitual line-steppers will.TDub wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:32 pmis agriculture necessary to the success of the country?
he wants to strip birthright citizenship but increase Visas....is there a common denominator here?
so simple-mindedJKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:47 pmAgriculture is increasingly mechanized. That arena is rapidly changing. I don’t think migrant workers will be the initial focus. Criminals and habitual line-steppers will.
I think the common denominator is people who come here legally, pay taxes, want to become actual citizens, and have something to contribute rather than mostly things to take.
I’m infinitely more concerned with tax revenue associated with a programmer’s salary vs. a cauliflower picker’s wages and their long-term contribution to the nation than I am the color of their skin. Sorry to throw a monkey wrench in your lazy hypothesis.zsn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:52 pm If you ask every person picking cauliflower or waiting in the Home Depot parking lot for a shot at a painting gig they will tell you that will (do) actually pay taxes and want to become actual citizens, and have something to contribute rather than mostly things to take.
They are no different than the H-1B holders who overstay their work authorization. Unfortunately they are not white, like Elon Musk.
But you know that.
your posting history suggests otherwiseJKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:53 amI’m infinitely more concerned with tax revenue associated with a programmer’s salary vs. a cauliflower picker’s wages and their long-term contribution to the nation than I am the color of their skin. Sorry to throw a monkey wrench in your lazy hypothesis.zsn wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:52 pm If you ask every person picking cauliflower or waiting in the Home Depot parking lot for a shot at a painting gig they will tell you that will (do) actually pay taxes and want to become actual citizens, and have something to contribute rather than mostly things to take.
They are no different than the H-1B holders who overstay their work authorization. Unfortunately they are not white, like Elon Musk.
But you know that.