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Shirley wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:44 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:30 pm
Shirley wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:47 pm

And that proves what, Psych?
If you can’t read or comprehend what you’ve read, there’s not much I can do for you.
What a surprise! As usual, Psych doesn't have shit*, except for a video he apparently doesn't understand, but finds comforting because it somehow indicts an entire state and political party for him to hate in an attempt to fill the void where his heart and sense of humanity are supposed to be.

Bravo Psych, ignorance is bliss, huh?

Nada, zero, nil, love.

i.e., Nothing. Psyche has "Nothing", again.


*Which is not to say he isn't full of it.
Apparently, unlike you, I prefer to read articles and don’t waste time watching videos. Had you done the same, you wouldn’t be making an ass of yourself right now. Congrats.
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The veteran fire fighters in Cali themselves are saying climate change is creating events they’ve never seen before.

Who should we believe?
Scientists who study the data and fire fighters who are there using their eyes for the most legitimate of eye tests?
Or Psych who is a fucking idiot?
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pdub wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:47 pm The veteran fire fighters in Cali themselves are saying climate change is creating events they’ve never seen before.

Who should we believe?
Scientists who study the data and fire fighters who are there using their eyes for the most legitimate of eye tests?
Or Psych who is a fucking idiot?
I didn't say there was no climate change. I said that the firefighters and the homeowners were all dealing with the same winds, i.e. that the lack of resources (water, equipment, manpower) for the fire department played into their ineffectiveness.

But, by all means, go ahead and name-call and jump to conclusions. It's the norm around here.
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“It’s why people choose to believe lies like “It’s climate change””

Lies.
Ok.

The winds were extreme.
What causes extreme wind?
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like i said, miserable cunt
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JKLivin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:46 pm
Shirley wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:44 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:30 pm

If you can’t read or comprehend what you’ve read, there’s not much I can do for you.
What a surprise! As usual, Psych doesn't have shit*, except for a video he apparently doesn't understand, but finds comforting because it somehow indicts an entire state and political party for him to hate in an attempt to fill the void where his heart and sense of humanity are supposed to be.

Bravo Psych, ignorance is bliss, huh?

Nada, zero, nil, love.

i.e., Nothing. Psyche has "Nothing", again.


*Which is not to say he isn't full of it.
Apparently, unlike you, I prefer to read articles and don’t waste time watching videos. Had you done the same, you wouldn’t be making an ass of yourself right now. Congrats.
The article is behind a paywall, Einstein.

Unlike you, I have standards and wouldn't waste my money on a publication that, while it regularly breaks "news" and is sometimes right, is also often wrong.

But, you do you, i.e., eat it up as long as it objectifies the people you love to hate.

#winning
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Shirley wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:16 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:46 pm
Shirley wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:44 pm

What a surprise! As usual, Psych doesn't have shit*, except for a video he apparently doesn't understand, but finds comforting because it somehow indicts an entire state and political party for him to hate in an attempt to fill the void where his heart and sense of humanity are supposed to be.

Bravo Psych, ignorance is bliss, huh?

Nada, zero, nil, love.

i.e., Nothing. Psyche has "Nothing", again.


*Which is not to say he isn't full of it.
Apparently, unlike you, I prefer to read articles and don’t waste time watching videos. Had you done the same, you wouldn’t be making an ass of yourself right now. Congrats.
The article is behind a paywall, Einstein.

Unlike you, I have standards and wouldn't waste my money on a publication that, while it regularly breaks "news" and is sometimes right, is also often wrong.

But, you do you, i.e., eat it up as long as it objectifies the people you love to hate.

#winning
It wasn’t behind a paywall when I read it. Maybe don’t comment on things you haven’t read. That’s the kind of thing a bitter, old, tired man does.
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pdub wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:06 pm “It’s why people choose to believe lies like “It’s climate change””

Lies.
Ok.

The winds were extreme.
What causes extreme wind?
In the context of the discussion I was referring to the local cognoscenti’s contention that it is ALL attributable to climate change. The wind is ONE factor, and, as most people who live in the area have been saying, a more important issue is the $17 million in cuts to the department, lowered hiring standards, and mismanagement of water resources. Problems tend to have multiple causes, like it or not.

I realize that cuts into the usual “Psych is a moron/cunt/looser/cuck/asshole/rube”narrative, but it is nonetheless true.
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Read this.
You probably won’t but try:

https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... its-budget

“ While the L.A. fire department’s annual operating budget has been growing overall — and is on track to exceed $950 million…”

Then take a stab at this.
You definitely won’t:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-vaillant
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JKLivin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:29 pm
Shirley wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:16 pm
JKLivin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:46 pm

Apparently, unlike you, I prefer to read articles and don’t waste time watching videos. Had you done the same, you wouldn’t be making an ass of yourself right now. Congrats.
The article is behind a paywall, Einstein.

Unlike you, I have standards and wouldn't waste my money on a publication that, while it regularly breaks "news" and is sometimes right, is also often wrong.

But, you do you, i.e., eat it up as long as it objectifies the people you love to hate.

#winning
It wasn’t behind a paywall when I read it. Maybe don’t comment on things you haven’t read. That’s the kind of thing a bitter, old, tired man does.
So, you provided a link that I clicked on, and when it didn't show me the information you wanted it to, that's my fault? Got it.

Is that what happens after you've been cucked, you become obsessed with finding someone else to blame for, everything, lest* you be faced with taking responsibility for your life, yourself?


*lest
/lest/
conjunction FORMAL
with the intention of preventing (something undesirable); to avoid the risk of.
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pdub wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:56 pm Read this.
You probably won’t but try:

https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... its-budget

“ While the L.A. fire department’s annual operating budget has been growing overall — and is on track to exceed $950 million…”

Then take a stab at this.
You definitely won’t:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-vaillant
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/califo ... dget-cuts/

“Funding for the city's fire department decreased by $17.6 million, or 2%, between the 2024-25 fiscal year and the 2023-24 fiscal year, according to city budget documents. However, the city council in November approved a four-year $203 million contract with the firefighter's union to help boost wages and health benefits for staff, drawing from the budget's general fund.”

Budget increases on the heels of major cuts that just kicked in and are phased in over a four year period don’t have much impact right now. At least, that’s how it reads to a dimwitted rube like me.
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you are a dimwitted rube

first step to recovery is admitting you’ve got a problem

do better
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While it’s debatable how that 17 million shakes out—it’s 17 out of over 900 million.

So what’s the bigger factor to the fires in California?
The fact the planet is getting warmer leading to extreme weather or a less than 2 percent decrease to a fire budget?
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pdub wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:37 pm While it’s debatable how that 17 million shakes out—it’s 17 out of over 900 million.

So what’s the bigger factor to the fires in California?
The fact the planet is getting warmer leading to extreme weather or a less than 2 percent decrease to a fire budget?
Great question/s!
I believe if someone asked what (not WHO) do you feel is most responsible for the wildfires in California right now - the most common answer depending on if you ask a Republican or a Democrat would be ..... Democrats / Republicans.
I have a friend who is hard core environmentalist primarily living in California. She posted this about 36 hours ago...

The wildfire devastation around Los Angeles has left me—and all of us—heartsick. It’s more than the destruction of homes; it’s the loss of memories, of places that make a city feel alive—parks, restaurants, and familiar corners that shape our lives. For me, it was 20 years; for others, a lifetime. These are places where connections are made, where life unfolds, and losing them feels like erasing personal histories.
And then there’s the wildlife, displaced and lost, a reminder of the delicate balance between nature and the built environment. Can we even call these disasters “natural” anymore, when climate change has made them all too frequent and intense?
I am deeply grateful for the firefighters/inmates who risk their lives battling these relentless flames. To all my friends and fellow Angelenos, I am so very sorry for your loss and trauma. Know that the creativity and compassion that define this city will inspire your healing and help you emerge from this tragedy with a new outlook on our world, and hopefully finally spark nationwide action to tackle the climate crisis.
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you really think most people would blame a political party rather than…

drought, winds, or climate change?
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I think around 25 percent of the US would deny climate change has anything to do with it.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1 ... medium=web

Title of the article is “Explaining the Right: Why are Conservatives Lying About California Wildfires”
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zsn wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:34 am https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1 ... medium=web

Title of the article is “Explaining the Right: Why are Conservatives Lying About California Wildfires”
Before I take the risk of clicking on your link, if it turns out the material you intended to link to for us to see isn't what appears, will that be my fault, too?
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KUTradition wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:05 am you really think most people would blame a political party rather than…

drought, winds, or climate change?
Yep. Primarily.
This has a major influence on my believing it.

I typed in California Fires
This is what popped up
https://x.com/search?q=california%20fir ... head_click
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