2024/2025 Lineup

[twocoach]

I think coit will be fine. He's missing shots, but he's not taking bad shots or forcing it. I don't think it's the competition level making him miss them, because he's mainly taking open shots within the offense

His minutes likely got cut after the Mizzou loss because Self wanted to get Moore and Griffen going. And it's the right call. Both of those players raise KU's ceiling more than Coit does.

[BiggDick]

seems like it's not the first time we've seen someone's numbers dip with the start of conference play.

[randylahey]

I think coit will be fine. He's missing shots, but he's not taking bad shots or forcing it. I don't think it's the competition level making him miss them, because he's mainly taking open shots within the offense

His minutes likely got cut after the Mizzou loss because Self wanted to get Moore and Griffen going. And it's the right call. Both of those players raise KU's ceiling more than Coit does.

Agree completely. Coit was emergency depth and a late addition. He's a really nice player, but is simply too small to play a big role

[DeletedUser]

I think coit will be fine. He's missing shots, but he's not taking bad shots or forcing it. I don't think it's the competition level making him miss them, because he's mainly taking open shots within the offense

His minutes likely got cut after the Mizzou loss because Self wanted to get Moore and Griffen going. And it's the right call. Both of those players raise KU's ceiling more than Coit does.

Agree completely. Coit was emergency depth and a late addition. He's a really nice player, but is simply too small to play a big role

He's good insurance.

If Shak or DH goes down, or if Storr keeps sucking, he's capable of filling in those minutes without being a huge negative.

[AlOerter]

Coit's minutes will probably depend a lot on match-ups. If we come up against someone playing small ball it might be good to have another ball handler out there. Foul trouble for guards might be another situation that increases his minutes.

[randylahey]

Random but impressive stat

[twocoach]

Yessh, just saw this online. These last two years have been the two worst three point shooting teams in Self's time at Kansas.

Lowest 3-point percentages in Kansas history under Bill Self:

2024-25: 33.1%
2023-24: 33.2%
2003-04 (Self's first year in Lawrence): 33.5%

This despite Kansas seemingly able to have the ability to add more experienced, proven players via the transfer portal.

This year, we have zero rotation players shooting at least 37% from three. We seem to get a decent amount of good looks. It's just weird.

[BiggDick]

We due to get hot.

Right?

Yea, we due to get hot.

[BiggDick]

I like how we can still win even if we aren’t tho.

If the last 3 games are any indication…I’d gladly trade winning by holding opponents to 55 or less, if it meant not winning by shooting the lights out, cuz winning is winning.

But if you shoot lights out good chance you’re gonna win anyway.

Tho even playing good d we been playing I dunno how often we’re gonna be able to hold opponents to 55 or less…especially good opponents.

And the way we shoot, and if the last game is any indication, that 55-point threshold might be precarious for us too.

[DeletedUser]

Self fucked this up tonight.

Not nearly enough minutes for Bidunga Griffen or Shak tonight.

Also sat Zeke too much.

There is zero reason Passmore should play in a game like this. Zero reason Coit should play if he's not shooting. And zero reason to play AJ Storr.

[TDub]

i think Griffen and Zeke should've played damn near the whole game

[randylahey]

Yessh, just saw this online. These last two years have been the two worst three point shooting teams in Self's time at Kansas.

Lowest 3-point percentages in Kansas history under Bill Self:

2024-25: 33.1%
2023-24: 33.2%
2003-04 (Self's first year in Lawrence): 33.5%

This despite Kansas seemingly able to have the ability to add more experienced, proven players via the transfer portal.

This year, we have zero rotation players shooting at least 37% from three. We seem to get a decent amount of good looks. It's just weird.

Not having a quick point guard means less penetration, less kick outs, less open 3s.

[JKLivin]

Self fucked this up tonight.

Not nearly enough minutes for Bidunga Griffen or Shak tonight.

Also sat Zeke too much.

There is zero reason Passmore should play in a game like this. Zero reason Coit should play if he's not shooting. And zero reason to play AJ Storr.

His downfall is the desperate delusion that, if he just gives them enough minutes, Harris and Adams and Dickinson will turn into real players.

[randylahey]

i think Griffen and Zeke should've played damn near the whole game

We need them on the floor. We need their shooting.

Shak has earned minutes. He's earned some of dajuans minutes. Those 2 are too similar to play so many minutes together. Griffen needs to start/or play more

[randylahey]

Self fucked this up tonight.

Not nearly enough minutes for Bidunga Griffen or Shak tonight.

Also sat Zeke too much.

There is zero reason Passmore should play in a game like this. Zero reason Coit should play if he's not shooting. And zero reason to play AJ Storr.

His downfall is the desperate delusion that, if he just gives them enough minutes, Harris and Adams and Dickinson will turn into real players.

All 3 need a minute reduction. Shak is good enough to play more of dajuans minutes

Bidunga is good enough to play more of hunter and KJs minutes

Zeke has become the star of this team and is getting all the minutes he can handle, but Griffen needs to be playing more

Dajuan KJ and hunter will be more productive in their minutes with more rest. And all 3 have proven weaknesses that don't justify playing 30+ when we loaded up on talent

[TDub]

Self fucked this up tonight.

Not nearly enough minutes for Bidunga Griffen or Shak tonight.

Also sat Zeke too much.

There is zero reason Passmore should play in a game like this. Zero reason Coit should play if he's not shooting. And zero reason to play AJ Storr.

His downfall is the desperate delusion that, if he just gives them enough minutes, Harris and Adams and Dickinson will turn into real players.

KJ played his ass off. HD.....didn't

[JKLivin]

Self fucked this up tonight.

Not nearly enough minutes for Bidunga Griffen or Shak tonight.

Also sat Zeke too much.

There is zero reason Passmore should play in a game like this. Zero reason Coit should play if he's not shooting. And zero reason to play AJ Storr.

His downfall is the desperate delusion that, if he just gives them enough minutes, Harris and Adams and Dickinson will turn into real players.

KJ played his ass off. HD.....didn't

HD is unauthentic and mercurial. Not a good combination for D 1 hoops.

[TDub]

His downfall is the desperate delusion that, if he just gives them enough minutes, Harris and Adams and Dickinson will turn into real players.

KJ played his ass off. HD.....didn't

HD is unauthentic and mercurial. Not a good combination for D 1 hoops.

hes lazy as fuck.

[JKLivin]

KJ played his ass off. HD.....didn't

HD is unauthentic and mercurial. Not a good combination for D 1 hoops.

hes lazy as fuck.

Succinctly put.

[DeletedUser]

24min went to Coit Storr and Passmore. Those should have gone to Shak and Griffen.

Bidunga played 11min and had 4 fouls. He should have had a few more (before he'd have fouled out).