Nazis....Everywhere

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BiggDick wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:28 pm
Overlander wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:56 pm
Sparko wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:50 pm

Hey, Ousdahl's calling card!
Know the difference between me and you?

And for that matter, the difference between me and the “majority opinion” pols board posters…and for that matter, the Randys and JKs too.

I’m at least willing to consider whether I might be influenced by propaganda.

You, on the other hand, very stubbornly refuse to consider whether you even might be influenced by propaganda.
Or maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, I don’t approach every aspect of influence as if it IS propaganda. And, I can make a reasonable assessment about f what propaganda is.

All influence should be sifted first for intent.
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I think we're all influenced by propaganda in one way or another.

However, there is a difference between being influenced and being radicalized.
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Kinda changing gears, tho that is a good comment illy.
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Overlander wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:49 pm
BiggDick wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:28 pm
Overlander wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:56 pm
Know the difference between me and you?

And for that matter, the difference between me and the “majority opinion” pols board posters…and for that matter, the Randys and JKs too.

I’m at least willing to consider whether I might be influenced by propaganda.

You, on the other hand, very stubbornly refuse to consider whether you even might be influenced by propaganda.
Or maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, I don’t approach every aspect of influence as if it IS propaganda. And, I can make a reasonable assessment about f what propaganda is.

All influence should be sifted first for intent.
how's that one go, about how only fools are certain of themselves, and wise men are full of doubt?

or for that matter, that one about one fish turning to the other and asking, "what water?"

I agree that all influence should be sifted for intent. But that seems at odds with not approaching every aspect of influence as if it is propaganda.
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So what you’re saying is, if you doubt you have a solid grasp of something, it is wise to avoid expressing a strong opinion about it?
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BiggDick wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:50 pm
Overlander wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:49 pm
BiggDick wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:28 pm
Know the difference between me and you?

And for that matter, the difference between me and the “majority opinion” pols board posters…and for that matter, the Randys and JKs too.

I’m at least willing to consider whether I might be influenced by propaganda.

You, on the other hand, very stubbornly refuse to consider whether you even might be influenced by propaganda.
Or maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, I don’t approach every aspect of influence as if it IS propaganda. And, I can make a reasonable assessment about f what propaganda is.

All influence should be sifted first for intent.
how's that one go, about how only fools are certain of themselves, and wise men are full of doubt?

or for that matter, that one about one fish turning to the other and asking, "what water?"

I agree that all influence should be sifted for intent. But that seems at odds with not approaching every aspect of influence as if it is propaganda.
Not entirely.

It is pretty simple, for me. If a statement is made or a question asked…there is an intended outcome being asked for….it is for a reason.

I am confident that I can recognize propaganda for what it is, partly because I was trained to identify liars and lies.

And before I get piled on, I know full well that both sides, and ALL medias are guilty of it. I have equal disdain for both.
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I'd be curious to hear more about this liars and lies training you received.

and, we've already recognized Russian propaganda.

Would you please identify examples of propaganda from other medias?
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:29 pm So what you’re saying is, if you doubt you have a solid grasp of something, it is wise to avoid expressing a strong opinion about it?
umm...that's not quite what I was saying.

but I think I agree with your statement too.
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Italians hanging an effigy of Elon in the same square the same way they hanged Mussolini

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and look what they did this to the factory in Berlin

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I've seen various reports of Musk supporting Neo-Nazi and right wing politicians and causes across Europe, but this bundles them effectively. And if anyone thinks his gesture the other day wasn't a Fascist wink/dog whistle to them and their brethren in the MAGA/White supremacy cult here in the USA, then you likely didn't get Trump's "stand back and stand by" genuflection at his debate with Biden, and you're too dum to handle your own affairs.

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Shirley wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:22 pm I've seen various reports of Musk supporting Neo-Nazi and right wing politicians and causes across Europe, but this bundles them effectively. And if anyone thinks his gesture the other day wasn't a Fascist wink/dog whistle to them and their brethren in the MAGA/White supremacy cult here in the USA, then you likely didn't get Trump's "stand back and stand by" genuflection at his debate with Biden, and you're too dum to handle your own affairs.

"you're too dum to handle your own affairs"
This.
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Dude can't help/stop himself.
He's a lot smarter than I am so I can only assume he has some ulterior motives why he feels the need to post multiple (deflective?) things relating to the accusation/s against him.
As pdub has said/alluded to.... A simple, I did not do a Nazi salute and I denounce anything Nazi related and then move on - would have been a better/proper/normal reaction/response.
Well, he's far from "normal" so instead we get shit like this.

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He’s leaning in for the lolz which doesn’t do what he thinks it does.

X has been banned as embeds on many many subreddits. If enough posters here wanted it banned I would consider it.
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BiggDick wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:11 am
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:29 pm So what you’re saying is, if you doubt you have a solid grasp of something, it is wise to avoid expressing a strong opinion about it?
umm...that's not quite what I was saying.

but I think I agree with your statement too.
Obviously, not.
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pdub wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:22 am He’s leaning in for the lolz which doesn’t do what he thinks it does.

X has been banned as embeds on many many subreddits. If enough posters here wanted it banned I would consider it.
His insatiable need for attention suggests there's a bottomless void inside him, which could explain quite a bit.

Surprised he, it, is banned on parts of reddit. Now that the co has gone public, (last March ), I wonder if that will change?
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pdub wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:22 am He’s leaning in for the lolz which doesn’t do what he thinks it does.

X has been banned as embeds on many many subreddits. If enough posters here wanted it banned I would consider it.
How difficult would it be to get BlueSky posts to be embiidable? I’m not personally looking to abandon X (because at the moment I feel that the access to information outweighs the little I could do by leaving) but certainly to use it less.
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pdub wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:22 am He’s leaning in for the lolz which doesn’t do what he thinks it does.

X has been banned as embeds on many many subreddits. If enough posters here wanted it banned I would consider it.
I wouldn't object
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