Bill Self w/ 2

[mjl2]

If you need to be in the top five for the fans to be excited, then the fanbase is absolute garbage

[pdub]

If you need to be in the top five for the fans to be excited, then the fanbase is absolute garbage

mjl is so very correct here.
Get over yourselves.

[jfish26]

Whatever (and not denying at all) the impact of NIL and (much more meaningfully, IMO) the portal, I would guess that a lot of the malaise is attributable to this team basically being the same story of the last few years (which, with the title getting some gray hair as unfairly as that is, have been uninteresting and ultimately unsuccessful).

[mjl2]

So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?

[BiggDick]

I just dunno how much NIL affects the enthusiasm of most fans.

I do think the portal may have a slightly more significant effect, since maybe some fans aren't as interested when there's so many new faces to learn.

But I still think the strongest correlation is the on-court product. If the game is exciting, then the fans will get excited.

[TDub]

of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos

[JKLivin]

So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?

Winning is good; losing is bad. It’s really that simple.

[BiggDick]

of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos

meh...if you meet any other engineering school or business school or any other school student with a paid professional internship, it's not like you begrudge them.

[pdub]

of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos

Yup.
It’s silly to think there isn’t a link.

[mjl2]

So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?

Winning is good; losing is bad. It’s really that simple.

Got it, you're only a fan when we're number one.

You're a terrible fan.

[mjl2]

You can't get rid of 1000 seats and wonder why 1000 fewer people are cheering.

[JKLivin]

So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?

Winning is good; losing is bad. It’s really that simple.

Got it, you're only a fan when we're number one.

You're a terrible fan.

I’m still a fan, I’m just honest about what I see.

[jfish26]

I just dunno how much NIL affects the enthusiasm of most fans.

I do think the portal may have a slightly more significant effect, since maybe some fans aren't as interested when there's so many new faces to learn.

But I still think the strongest correlation is the on-court product. If the game is exciting, then the fans will get excited.

Agree with all of this.

[TDub]

of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos

meh...if you meet any other engineering school or business school or any other school student with a paid professional internship, it's not like you begrudge them.

do you see them in Cane's chicken commercials? and rwad about they're multi millionaire dollar deals in the paper weekly? Do you go line up, camp and pay to cheer them on at their internships?

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Whah whah whah whah whah. Blah blah blah blah blah.
I am as guilty of being a bitch as anyone/everyone but my God, is there anything good about being a fan of the KU Basketball team in 2025? I seriously question if people answer - no.

[pdub]

I still like Bill Self.
I like Dajuan Harris and KJ Adams.
I like Zeke Mayo.
Flory is fine.

I don’t care that much if we win anything really.

The end.

[DeletedUser]

You can't get rid of 1000 seats and wonder why 1000 fewer people are cheering.

True. Especially because they got rid of loud seats. Not seat back blue hairs.

[BiggDick]

I don’t care that much if we win anything really.

for real, what do you think we even play the games for, participation trophies?

[TDub]

I still like Bill Self.
I like Dajuan Harris and KJ Adams.
I like Zeke Mayo.
Flory is fine.

I don’t care that much if we win anything really.

The end.

I like Shak...he plays hard and seems to genuinely care

[KUTradition]

If you need to be in the top five for the fans to be excited, then the fanbase is absolute garbage

mjl is so very correct here.
Get over yourselves.

^^^^^