I believe her

[twocoach]

i'm more of the opinion that so many thought the outcome was a foregone conclusion and just didn't vote

Most people I know weren't big Trump fans, but they were terrified that Dowdy would win, so they went out of their way to vote for Trump and drove all of their friends with them. Some things are an abomination and must be prevented at all costs.

So how will all those people vote when Clinton isn't the Dem nominee?

[HouseDivided]

i'm more of the opinion that so many thought the outcome was a foregone conclusion and just didn't vote

Most people I know weren't big Trump fans, but they were terrified that Dowdy would win, so they went out of their way to vote for Trump and drove all of their friends with them. Some things are an abomination and must be prevented at all costs.

So how will all those people vote when Clinton isn't the Dem nominee?

Great question. I think it will come down to two variables: 1) how the economy is doing and 2) who the Dems nominate. If the economy is lagging, I think Joe Biden would give Trump a run for his money. If it is somebody like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or that socialist chick with the crazy eyes and no understanding of economics, Trump wins going away.

[seahawk]

The whole point of the Senate is to fuck up democracy.

Electoral College too.

That's the WHOLE POINT.

Repeal the 17th!

Why? Why is that a good thing to give more power to smaller states? Why do we need both the senate and electoral college to do this? Wouldn't it seem better to only have one that is skewed?

The people -- as you may or may not have seen over the last...oh, say two years -- are crazy, as mobs tend to be. Both institutions were designed to place a check on the people and on the federal government. The problem isn't that there are checks on power in the Constitution; the problem is that the people demand that the federal government be omnipotent and thus they resent the checks.

The accumulation of centralized power is a recipe for tyranny. And while the old Progressives did their best to destroy the protections against such accumulation, these two institutions remain, largely as the only bulwarks against aggressive centralized power.


Shorter version: Wyoming and California have almost nothing in common. Why should the latter have the ability to impose its desires on the former?

Gosh, replicating the slave owner arguments, which were the basis for the Electoral College. Wasn't the EC set up after the early period of the Founders, when the slavers like Thomas Jefferson feared that they might lose their ability to profit from owning other humans?

[DCHawk1]

meh.

And you're replicating the arguments of a man/ideology that favored not just re-segregation but eugenics as a "cure" for race relations.

[twocoach]

Most people I know weren't big Trump fans, but they were terrified that Dowdy would win, so they went out of their way to vote for Trump and drove all of their friends with them. Some things are an abomination and must be prevented at all costs.

So how will all those people vote when Clinton isn't the Dem nominee?

Great question. I think it will come down to two variables: 1) how the economy is doing and 2) who the Dems nominate. If the economy is lagging, I think Joe Biden would give Trump a run for his money. If it is somebody like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or that socialist chick with the crazy eyes and no understanding of economics, Trump wins going away.

The media, especially right leaning media, can keep calling that Ocasio-Cortez the "Dem's superstar" all
they want but she isn't. She is too far left for 75% of Dems and has zero experience. No chance that she is on the ticket in less than 2 years. I wouldn't vote for Sanders and I wouldn't vote for her either.

[jfish26]

Most people I know weren't big Trump fans, but they were terrified that Dowdy would win, so they went out of their way to vote for Trump and drove all of their friends with them. Some things are an abomination and must be prevented at all costs.

So how will all those people vote when Clinton isn't the Dem nominee?

Great question. I think it will come down to two variables: 1) how the economy is doing and 2) who the Dems nominate. If the economy is lagging, I think Joe Biden would give Trump a run for his money. If it is somebody like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or that socialist chick with the crazy eyes and no understanding of economics, Trump wins going away.

I don't think there's any scenario where the Dems should run Biden. That's the same broken thinking that had them run Hillary again. Harris and Booker are obviously thirsty. Klobuchar, too. I strongly suspect Kirsten Gillibrand is lying in wait.

[ousdahl]

Biden could be good if he wasn’t already like a bajillion years old.

[Deleted User 57]

I say it's not going to be Joe.
I say it's not going to be a chick.
Being that I said Trump had zero chance to be the President, that means it's either going to be Joe or a chick.

[ousdahl]

What’s if it’s another person of color EEEK!

[Deleted User 89]

i lulzed at a story i saw this morning suggestion Kerry would run

[twocoach]

Biden could be good if he wasn’t already like a bajillion years old.

Biden's only 3 years older than Trump.

[ousdahl]

Yeah, and Trump was/is too old for everybody but baby boomer pubs.

Libtards could use somebody younger

[DCHawk1]

Name somebody younger with a chance.

Whatever else he did, Obama killed the Democratic bench.

[ousdahl]

wut?

[DCHawk1]

The choice of Biden, plus the concession to the Clintons in '16, plus the electoral wipeouts in '10 and '14 have combined to create a situation in which there are no especially young promising potential candidates.

[ousdahl]

ohhh thanks. Fuckin Obama!

[ousdahl]

This is again when I ask: how do libtards get themselves an outsider celebrity candidate? Would libtards even go for it?

[jhawks99]

Oprah?

[DCHawk1]

Avenatti.

[DCHawk1]

So how will all those people vote when Clinton isn't the Dem nominee?

Great question. I think it will come down to two variables: 1) how the economy is doing and 2) who the Dems nominate. If the economy is lagging, I think Joe Biden would give Trump a run for his money. If it is somebody like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or that socialist chick with the crazy eyes and no understanding of economics, Trump wins going away.

I don't think there's any scenario where the Dems should run Biden. That's the same broken thinking that had them run Hillary again. Harris and Booker are obviously thirsty. Klobuchar, too. I strongly suspect Kirsten Gillibrand is lying in wait.

The only problem here is that it was the Chairman of the DNC who called her the "future of the party."

Take it up with him.