Conservatives and Climate Change

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Leawood wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:23 pm I think Kansas Democrats did that years ago.
They moved to California.
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ousdahl wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:00 am
TDub wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:51 am Is there precedent for lawmakers seeking out, and militias offering, such “protection?”
Is there a precedent for dispatching the state patrol to forcibly round up representatives to force a bill through that the representatives dont believe is in the interest of their constituents.
Aren’t the militias, and even the lawmakers, welcoming armed violence regarding the issue?
http://www.mycolumbiabasin.com/2019/06/ ... negotiate/


Militias will always welcome violence. I dont believe the senators are welcoming that type of action.
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Republican Senator Brian Boquist responded angrily to the idea that Gov. Brown and Senate president Peter Courtney could use state troopers to force them back to work.

“If you don’t think these boots are for walking, you’re flat wrong Mr. President. And you send the state police to get me? Hell’s coming to visit you personally,” said Boquist.

In an interview with OPB, Boquist said that if state troopers come for him, they should be armed...


https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon ... s-walkout/
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TDub wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:52 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:00 am
TDub wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 am

Is there a precedent for dispatching the state patrol to forcibly round up representatives to force a bill through that the representatives dont believe is in the interest of their constituents.
Aren’t the militias, and even the lawmakers, welcoming armed violence regarding the issue?
http://www.mycolumbiabasin.com/2019/06/ ... negotiate/


Militias will always welcome violence. I dont believe the senators are welcoming that type of action.
Regarding that link - “while the bulk of the polluters are to be found in more densely populated areas,” at the same time all those logging trucks and dually pickups have a much bigger carbon footprint than some hipster riding a fixie bike across Portland.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:06 am........all those logging trucks and dually pickups have a much bigger carbon footprint than some hipster riding a fixie bike across Portland.
What's the carbon footprint of a carne asada super burrito and a glass of west coast IPA ;)

Snark aside, you have a very valid point - most urban areas are also heavy users of public transportation. However, the single-ride-share are skewing that equation.
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:06 am
TDub wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:52 am
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:00 am

Aren’t the militias, and even the lawmakers, welcoming armed violence regarding the issue?
http://www.mycolumbiabasin.com/2019/06/ ... negotiate/


Militias will always welcome violence. I dont believe the senators are welcoming that type of action.
Regarding that link - “while the bulk of the polluters are to be found in more densely populated areas,” at the same time all those logging trucks and dually pickups have a much bigger carbon footprint than some hipster riding a fixie bike across Portland.
I think you're confusing carbon footprint per capita vs total carbon footprint.


Also, what the hell is a fixie bike?
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Also that link wasnt necessarily provide to speak directly to the contents of the bill is more in response to the claim that the republicans were inviting, and calling for militia action. (With the possible exception of Borquist, but hes a nut).
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TDub wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:06 am
TDub wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:52 am

http://www.mycolumbiabasin.com/2019/06/ ... negotiate/


Militias will always welcome violence. I dont believe the senators are welcoming that type of action.
Regarding that link - “while the bulk of the polluters are to be found in more densely populated areas,” at the same time all those logging trucks and dually pickups have a much bigger carbon footprint than some hipster riding a fixie bike across Portland.
I think you're confusing carbon footprint per capita vs total carbon footprint.


Also, what the hell is a fixie bike?
Additionally, rural areas have a lot larger open green spaces that act as natural carbon sinks as compared to metro areas with 2 million people crammed into an area with relatively little greenspace (yes even the "green cities like portland and seattle have little greenspace as compared to rural areas)
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TDub wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:06 am
TDub wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:52 am

http://www.mycolumbiabasin.com/2019/06/ ... negotiate/


Militias will always welcome violence. I dont believe the senators are welcoming that type of action.
Regarding that link - “while the bulk of the polluters are to be found in more densely populated areas,” at the same time all those logging trucks and dually pickups have a much bigger carbon footprint than some hipster riding a fixie bike across Portland.
I think you're confusing carbon footprint per capita vs total carbon footprint.


Also, what the hell is a fixie bike?
A "fixed gear" bike is one with a direct connection between the pedal sprocket (chainring) to the rear wheel (sprocket) by the bicycle chain, which doesn't allow you to coast. If the (back) wheel is turning, the pedals are turning, and vice versa. You might have a brake on your front wheel, but you can't rely on it much, so to stop, you have to make your legs "heavy". It's a trip. It's amazingly hard, and hard to imagine until you try.



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I'm trying to find the benefit to that but....is there one?
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It’s hip?
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:18 pmIt’s hip?
^^^

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Feral wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:22 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:18 pmIt’s hip?
^^^

Because,

kore baby!

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You made me lol so hard I think I just soiled my skinny jeans!
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:26 pm You made me lol so hard I think I just soiled my mom jeans!
^^^
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