The sky is blue

[chiknbut]

Trying to contain my sadness that Nostralobster didn't let us know in advance that the yield curve was going to invert this morning, and that the Dow would fall 700 points, (so far), today.

I'm pretty sure he'll be on here in about a month and a half to let us know that he knew this was going to happen three months ago.

[ousdahl]

He must be connecting with his people in the know as we speak!

[Deleted User 266]

He put me in touch with those he knows who are "in the know". Only charged me $100.
I've made a small fortune today thanks to them.
Felt it was easier just to pay him the $100 than have to learn how to do some homework and research - as he has advised me and so many others to do.

[defixione]

He still hasn't answered my question.

[chiknbut]

He still hasn't answered my question.

You mean this one:

"So your self esteem is predicated by the actions of other people, specifically, those with which you surround yourself?"

I wouldn't expect an answer out of Lobby, though. Call it Male Feminist-tuition.

[defixione]

I was thinking more along the lines of what 'the man of the house' means.

[Deleted User 104]

He still hasn't answered my question.

I thought I answered it very clearly, but I'll explain one last time.

It means that the man is the one in the relationship and family to lead and take charge on most of the important decisions. The woman of course has her input, but she allows the man to be in his natural role of leading. Most women naturally want their man to take charge and make the plans. Of course, none of this is possible if you marry a combative, ungrateful, dominating feminist.

[DrPepper]

Yea, nobody would want to marry that. But a confident, capable, wise women? Is there something wrong with that?

Clearly no one wants to marry bitches nor dicks, Captain Obvious.
But someone to bring out the best in you and want the best for you while you, simultaneously, bring out the best and want the best for them? That could be a glorious partnership.

[Deleted User 104]

Pepper, thank you first of all for not getting hysterical and actually discussing this.

I can't disagree with anything you wrote. I just couldn't handle a really combative, controlling, ungrateful woman. I think a woman can be confident, capable and wise while letting their man lead. Most women I have known tend to prefer men make decisions, because lots of women are indecisive. Not all, but it's very common.

[twocoach]

To each their own. Everyone has a list of different characteristics that appeals to them as a spouse and partner. And everyone has thousands of people around the world who meet an acceptable percentage of items on their list. The hard part is crossing paths with one of them and having it be the right time for each of you.

My list included being stubborn and independent. I want to know that if I get hit by a bus tomorrow that my wife can get my children through it and continue to thrive. I also suck with things such as lists and calendars, preferring analytical and conceptual thought patterns instead, so a partner who was very organized with a natural tendency towards structural thought and behavior was a must. My wife runs all of our finances, pays all the bills, etc... I participate in that effort by instigating conversation about "the big picture" and help to design our financial plan given the information about it's status provided by my wife. It is a true team effort that utilizes both our of strengths.

I personally don't want a woman to rely on me to make them happy. A spouse should be an addition to an already thriving individual, not the reason an individual thrives. I found such women to be needy, weak and lacking in self confidence. That doesn't appeal to me at all.

I was fortunate to cross paths with my wife, fortunate that she was pig headed enough to pursue me and fortunate that despite living in different time zones we made the hard choices and changes necessary to stay together. It's been a great 20 years so far. Like I said, to each their own.

[DrPepper]

Excellent points, twocoach.

I’d suppose there are an equal percentage of both bossy bitches and deadbeat dickheads.
When I was young (ie a few decades ago), there was a movement in churches just begging the men to be the men they were supposed to be. The point was that the men were not leading, but rather goofing off and coasting thru life.

[ousdahl]

Trying to contain my sadness that Nostralobster didn't let us know in advance that the yield curve was going to invert this morning, and that the Dow would fall 700 points, (so far), today.

...today?

Guess what?

I can tell you who’s really at fault, now that illy’s not around...again...

[Shirley]

^^^

[chiknbut]

Excellent points, twocoach.

I’d suppose there are an equal percentage of both bossy bitches and deadbeat dickheads.
When I was young (ie a few decades ago), there was a movement in churches just begging the men to be the men they were supposed to be. The point was that the men were not leading, but rather goofing off and coasting thru life.

I'm sorry, did I miss something here?

Are we supposed to be taking Lobster seriously now?

[Deleted User 104]

Pepper and Twocoach just exchanged different ideas and opinions without name-calling (aka, having a normal conversation). They didn't condone or agree with my views, but they at least understand where I'm coming from. I think (or hope) they know me well enough on here to know that while I have some beliefs that might be offensive, I'm not just trying to troll people like Ardy.

[chiknbut]

... I'm not just trying to troll people like Ardy.

Um, right.

[ousdahl]

why would anyone wanna troll Ardy?

[chiknbut]

why would anyone wanna troll Ardy?

I know, right? Seems kinda mean.

[twocoach]

Pepper and Twocoach just exchanged different ideas and opinions without name-calling (aka, having a normal conversation). They didn't condone or agree with my views, but they at least understand where I'm coming from. I think (or hope) they know me well enough on here to know that while I have some beliefs that might be offensive, I'm not just trying to troll people like Ardy.

I dont know you at all and I 100% believe that you post content here all the time solely to get a rise out of people (by definition "trolling") but I don't think that's the case in this particular conversation.

I just think you have some poorly formed opinions of how things are based on your own comfort level that you pass of as "facts of nature".

We are all unique individuals, which you acknowledge as well,yet you lump the capabilities and skills of all women into one big dumb assumption. It's not an honest, enlightened view. It's lazy and ignorant, which sadly seem to be all-too-common traits celebrated under this current administration. Now I know why some folks think Trump speaks for them; he also sees women as primarily existing to serve his needs and desires.

[Deleted User 104]

Of course I try to get some kind of response out of people, as that's the only way to have an interesting discussion. But there's nothing I post that I don't believe.

I point out that Bernie Sanders has voted for military involvement numerous times, voting for actions that resulted in the deaths of thousands of children. I'm not saying I dislike all of his policies, but I'm just pointing out that Sanders is a "company man", and will vote for war if there is a Clinton or Obama as president This simple fact got a lot of backlash from "lazy and ignorant" people on here who did not simply do a 5 minute Google search.