One doesn't need to "start" a war to contribute to the deaths of thousands. All one needs to do is allow it to keep happening. I feel like I'm speaking to grade school children with this fact.jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:11 amWhich war did Obama start?lobster wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:55 amOh, so you finally admit that Obama was responsible for the death of thousands? I posted the same comment and people went hysterical on here.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:00 pm This is beyond sad. smfh. We've learned nothing. Nothing.
It's despicable that Bush and Obama would repeat the same insanity of the Johnson and Nixon Administrations, all the while betraying the American people and sending their children, brothers, sisters, moms, and dads off to fight and die, or come back changed forever.
... Since 2001, more than 775,000 U.S. troops have deployed to Afghanistan, many repeatedly. Of those, 2,300 died there and 20,589 were wounded in action, according to Defense Department figures...
If you find this beyond outrageous, take a minute to reflect on what it must have felt like during the Vietnam War, when there was a draft, you could find yourself being shipped off to fight before you knew it.
One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served.
Few things focus the nation's attention like a draft during a hot war.
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No arguments, old man?Feral wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:07 amLink, or you're, as usual, lame-brained and full of shit.lobster wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:55 amOh, so you finally admit that Obama was responsible for the death of thousands? I posted the same comment and people went hysterical on here.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:00 pm This is beyond sad. smfh. We've learned nothing. Nothing.
It's despicable that Bush and Obama would repeat the same insanity of the Johnson and Nixon Administrations, all the while betraying the American people and sending their children, brothers, sisters, moms, and dads off to fight and die, or come back changed forever.
... Since 2001, more than 775,000 U.S. troops have deployed to Afghanistan, many repeatedly. Of those, 2,300 died there and 20,589 were wounded in action, according to Defense Department figures...
If you find this beyond outrageous, take a minute to reflect on what it must have felt like during the Vietnam War, when there was a draft, you could find yourself being shipped off to fight before you knew it.
One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served.
Few things focus the nation's attention like a draft during a hot war.
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^^^lobster wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:36 pmOne doesn't need to "start" a war to contribute to the deaths of thousands. All one needs to do is allow it to keep happening. I feel like I'm speaking to grade school children with this fact.
There's no doubt Obama should have pulled the troops that Bush deployed to Afghanistan out abruptly like Trump abandoned and betrayed our allies the Kurds in northern Syria.
brilliant, dumass
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
Frank Wilhoit
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Well, no one was arguing that Trump wasn't guilty. We we discussing Obama. There's this weird thing with some on here that think Obama was innocent or less involved with bombing the innocent, which is false. Being a company man for any of these presidents is silly if you're trying to defend their military action.
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It's no wonder you turned to music, since your reading comprehension is so weak.lobster wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:44 pm Well, no one was arguing that Trump wasn't guilty. We we discussing Obama. There's this weird thing with some on here that think Obama was innocent or less involved with bombing the innocent, which is false. Being a company man for any of these presidents is silly if you're trying to defend their military action.
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
Frank Wilhoit
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Once again, you can't respond to anything with any real substance, old man?Feral wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:46 pmIt's no wonder you turned to music, since your reading comprehension is so weak.lobster wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:44 pm Well, no one was arguing that Trump wasn't guilty. We we discussing Obama. There's this weird thing with some on here that think Obama was innocent or less involved with bombing the innocent, which is false. Being a company man for any of these presidents is silly if you're trying to defend their military action.
Yeah, those classical and jazz professional musicians and composers are so dumb.
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Yeah, I've done it in the past. Chickin and the male feminist thing, for example. But there comes a time when it gets tiresome and time to move on. I made some statements that are easy to verify as true, and all people do is throw their poo poo at their computer screen.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:33 pmif you say so
i was really just pointing out the hypocrisy of lobs calling out other posters for name-calling
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Don't sell your self short, Lobby. Your act has been tiresome for a long time.lobster wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:45 pmYeah, I've done it in the past. Chickin and the male feminist thing, for example. But there comes a time when it gets tiresome and time to move on. I made some statements that are easy to verify as true, and all people do is throw their poo poo at their computer screen.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:33 pmif you say so
i was really just pointing out the hypocrisy of lobs calling out other posters for name-calling
And as for name calling in the past, when did you post "old man" at Shirley last? Hour ago? Two hours? Super glad it's in your past though.
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How can anyone argue that using ageism to support your argument doesn't work, when Hall of Fame posters like DC and Gusher, do it so much?
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
Frank Wilhoit
Frank Wilhoit
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My bad. I didn't realize that the numerous times you referred to Shirley as "old man" was out of respect for your elders.
I just want to pinch your cheek sometimes. Such a cutie!