2019 NFL Season

[NewtonHawk11]

Plus it's widely know to the Yahoo guys and by many that filming the press box close to around game-time is a huge no-no. And also, how convenient that the Pats outsourced this film crew so they could pass it off.

Pats don't get any benefit of the doubt. The NFL should bring the hammer down because of the repeated action and the lame ass excuses afterwards.

[Deleted User 89]

the pats are [proven] cheaters, period

[CrimsonNBlue]

The Jets ended up being 4-12 the season they had Spy Gate. Record doesn't mean shit to them.

Division opponent. Mangini.

I know a large conspiracy here helps everyone sleep better at night, but it's just too many jumps with what is known to point to anything.

I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.

The lawyerly thing to do is to analyze it separately. It's not the organization's guys and had nothing to do with the football side of things. There's already an admission that the conduct would be a violation, so you pay the small fine and everyone moves on except for the outraged AFC team fans.

[jfish26]

Division opponent. Mangini.

I know a large conspiracy here helps everyone sleep better at night, but it's just too many jumps with what is known to point to anything.

I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.

The lawyerly thing to do is to analyze it separately. It's not the organization's guys and had nothing to do with the football side of things. There's already an admission that the conduct would be a violation, so you pay the small fine and everyone moves on except for the outraged AFC team fans.

Except we're not talking about putting anyone in jail. We're talking about an organization that has committed very fucking serious integrity-of-the-game breaches before, now doing something that is some (perhaps considerably lesser) degree of wrong as, but in the exact same nature of, very very bad prior acts.

You shouldn't analyze this separately from the prior bad acts. Specifically, if, say, the Vikings would get a $100,000 fine for doing this, then the Patriots should get something MUCH more severe.

[NewtonHawk11]

Especially when it's the same owner, the same Coach/GM and same exact issue.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.

The lawyerly thing to do is to analyze it separately. It's not the organization's guys and had nothing to do with the football side of things. There's already an admission that the conduct would be a violation, so you pay the small fine and everyone moves on except for the outraged AFC team fans.

Except we're not talking about putting anyone in jail. We're talking about an organization that has committed very fucking serious integrity-of-the-game breaches before, now doing something that is some (perhaps considerably lesser) degree of wrong as, but in the exact same nature of, very very bad prior acts.

You shouldn't analyze this separately from the prior bad acts. Specifically, if, say, the Vikings would get a $100,000 fine for doing this, then the Patriots should get something MUCH more severe.

The punishment portion, fine, but analyze what actually happened here: it's not much, if anything.

[jfish26]

I'm not disputing that. It sounds like stuff that can probably be cobbled together from broadcast film anyway, substantively.

But I just don't think you can let that organization take even baby steps in the direction of the line.

[Sparko]

I think the fact they are an outlier for success in a highly competitive sport that has never seen this kind of dominance is highly suspect. How deep has been their obsession with tipping the scale? They have benefited mightily from slaps on the wrist. Like the Astros, I think the league better seriously investigate their culture and practices of deceit.

[twocoach]

The Jets ended up being 4-12 the season they had Spy Gate. Record doesn't mean shit to them.

Division opponent. Mangini.

I know a large conspiracy here helps everyone sleep better at night, but it's just too many jumps with what is known to point to anything.

I guess I just look at it differently - I think you have to punish the conduct, even if nothing happened. It's just too similar to something that was a fucking PROBLEM before, and the Patriots should be kept pretty damned tightly in their lane about things having to do with filming opponents.

So arrest a convicted and released burglar if he walks into a jewelry store during business hours and looks around. Got it. Makes sense.

[NewtonHawk11]

How in the fuck did we mix NFL discipline and the Judiciary Branch?

[PhDhawk]

How in the fuck did we mix NFL discipline and the Judiciary Branch?

Because zerocoach is an idiot.

[Geezer]

8 minutes of video on the Bengals bench.
That was a documentary all right.

[Deleted User 141]

Hey Whitt, article on ESPN on why Tannehill breakout is the real deal. I'm not sure I'm convinced, but I do like having the Miami throwaway doing what he's doing until at least tomorrow.

[Sparko]

Tannehill seemed like the real deal at ATM. He benefits from a threatening running game. Perfect fit for him.

[Deleted User 141]

Tannehill seemed like the real deal at ATM. He benefits from a threatening running game. Perfect fit for him.

This theory may indeed be tested tomorrow if Henry is less than 100%. Didnt practice all week.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I like Tannehill because he is a tough SOB.

The QB keeper a few weeks back and then the chase down tackle last week. Plays hard.

[Sparko]

And let's face it, there is a dearth of good quarterbacks available on the secondary market. Tannehill was always three-times better than Dilfer's replacement Denver over-paid for. I miss Flacco.

[NewtonHawk11]

Tight shot of the Bengals sidelines with signals and sub patterns. FOH Patriots.

[Sparko]

Mahomes is back

[KU76erfan]

Nice solid win.