Hasn't Trump been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Iranian civilians and servicemen in Iran as well as the current unrest in Iraq? Are you therefor saying that his assassination by Iran would be justified?DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:49 pmIt has no basis in reality.
Qassem Soleimani was LITERALLY responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American servicemen in Iraq as well as the current unrest among the militias he supports, funds, and arms.
His death is an UNALLOYED good and the inevitable response that American forces had promised/warned of for days.
The idea that it was Trump's emotional response to a tweet is simple-minded, insulting the American military leadership, and beneath you -- or at least, I thought it was. My mistake.
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Nope, Japhy loves his tax cuts.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:00 amI’m going to go out on a limb and say that I’m sensing some sarcasm here.japhy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:55 am You people are losing perspective here. My tax breaks are safe and the economy is still going strong today. My daughters are not in the military so I got no skin in this war game. We won the battle of Baghdad airport, wave the flag, USA! USA! USA! It's great to no longer see our president apologizing to other countries, just kicking some ass!
tiny went to military perp school and business school. He has been successful at every new adventurous endeavor he has thrown himself into. It's not like when Rummy and Cheney were in the WH. We don't have to worry about getting lead into a war by idiots who have no end game in mind. His results so far speak for themselves, he has eliminated the military threat in N Korea, Obummer couldn't do that. Iran is going to be easy. This stable genius is a successful pragmatic businessman and he will run our war machine the same way he ran his businesses, with an eye for making himself more wealthy. That will trickle down as dividends for all of us.
I think we have to continue to put our trust; much as our lord and savior Jesus Christ has, in tiny until he does something that shows us he can't be trusted.
Seriously, what could go wrong?
Defense. Rebounds.
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When the resident pro-life guy gloats about how someone’s death is an UNALLOYED good, lulz
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Didnt we leave our allies to die in Syria because we wanted to get out of this whole mess and get our troops home and weren't GOP voters in full support of that?
So now GOP voters are in full support of assassinating an Iranian official while killing 6 others as collateral damage in likely violation of international human rights laws while sending thousands of additional US troops to the region?!? What in the actual fuck?
So now GOP voters are in full support of assassinating an Iranian official while killing 6 others as collateral damage in likely violation of international human rights laws while sending thousands of additional US troops to the region?!? What in the actual fuck?
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Hey, sometimes the Deep State is right!
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Count me among those who are shaking their heads and wondering what the heck is going on. Very sad day.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:25 am Didnt we leave our allies to die in Syria because we wanted to get out of this whole mess and get our troops home and weren't GOP voters in full support of that?
So now GOP voters are in full support of assassinating an Iranian official while killing 6 others as collateral damage in likely violation of international human rights laws while sending thousands of additional US troops to the region?!? What in the actual fuck?
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We killed a legitimate military target in a country where we are legally (under both Iraqi and American law) conducting military operations (authorized by President Barack Obama), while he was there planning operations against our soldiers.kubowler99 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:37 am At the end of the day, we ASSASSINATED a sovereign nation's military leader on foreign soil. That, in and of itself, is troubling. This wasn't a rogue terrorist like Bin Laden.
How would the US respond if Iran had assassinated one of our Joint Chiefs?
To me, this seems like a US Declaration of War, done without ANY congressional approval that we know of.
Not good.
Get a grip.
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What are you talking about? What Iranians is Trump responsible for killing?twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:03 amHasn't Trump been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Iranian civilians and servicemen in Iran as well as the current unrest in Iraq? Are you therefor saying that his assassination by Iran would be justified?DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:49 pmIt has no basis in reality.
Qassem Soleimani was LITERALLY responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American servicemen in Iraq as well as the current unrest among the militias he supports, funds, and arms.
His death is an UNALLOYED good and the inevitable response that American forces had promised/warned of for days.
The idea that it was Trump's emotional response to a tweet is simple-minded, insulting the American military leadership, and beneath you -- or at least, I thought it was. My mistake.
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Sorry, I meant Iraqi. Or Syrian. Or....DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:52 amWhat are you talking about? What Iranians is Trump responsible for killing?twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:03 amHasn't Trump been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Iranian civilians and servicemen in Iran as well as the current unrest in Iraq? Are you therefor saying that his assassination by Iran would be justified?DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:49 pm
It has no basis in reality.
Qassem Soleimani was LITERALLY responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American servicemen in Iraq as well as the current unrest among the militias he supports, funds, and arms.
His death is an UNALLOYED good and the inevitable response that American forces had promised/warned of for days.
The idea that it was Trump's emotional response to a tweet is simple-minded, insulting the American military leadership, and beneath you -- or at least, I thought it was. My mistake.
You can pretty much throw a dart at a map of the Middle East and it's likely that or decades of war over there have created in the killing of soldiers and civilians from that country.
That's the damn point. They think WE are the terrorists and by our definition of it, they have a valid argument.
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THIS is a perfect response: totally devoid of fact, ignorant of background, and completely emotional.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:25 am Didnt we leave our allies to die in Syria because we wanted to get out of this whole mess and get our troops home and weren't GOP voters in full support of that?
So now GOP voters are in full support of assassinating an Iranian official while killing 6 others as collateral damage in likely violation of international human rights laws while sending thousands of additional US troops to the region?!? What in the actual fuck?
We have troops in Iraq. They are there because they were sent there by...wait for it...Barack Obama.
Of the roughly 5000 American forces in Iraq, 3500 were sent by Obama to help restore stability and defend the government against ISIS (after he removed the bulk of US troops in 2010 and 2011). Trump removed 1000 troops from Syria and you spent the next several weeks shitting little rings around yourself. He hasn't removed troops from Iraq and now you're shitting little rings around yourself because he's chosen to defend them against aggression from a foreign state.
Separate and distinct from the question of whether or not the killing of Soleimani was the best military move at this point, you people are fucking insane, driven completely nuts by your hatred of Trump.
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A. read the Twitter thread abovetwocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:05 amSorry, I meant Iraqi. Or Syrian. Or....
You can pretty much throw a dart at a map of the Middle East and it's likely that or decades of war over there have created in the killing of soldiers and civilians from that country.
That's the damn point. They think WE are the terrorists and by our definition of it, they have a valid argument.
B. There is a reason we don't publicize American presidents' travels to war zones
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He removed 1000 from Syria and left our allies to die because he allegedly wanted to bring our troops home. If it was some random deployment of troops called back home that didnt leave allies to die, I would have zero problem with it. We have recalled about 2,000 troops from Afghanistan so far this year. Have I made one complaint about that? Nope, because I fully support it.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:10 amTHIS is a perfect response: totally devoid of fact, ignorant of background, and completely emotional.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:25 am Didnt we leave our allies to die in Syria because we wanted to get out of this whole mess and get our troops home and weren't GOP voters in full support of that?
So now GOP voters are in full support of assassinating an Iranian official while killing 6 others as collateral damage in likely violation of international human rights laws while sending thousands of additional US troops to the region?!? What in the actual fuck?
We have troops in Iraq. They are there because they were sent there by...wait for it...Barack Obama.
Of the roughly 5000 American forces in Iraq, 3500 were sent by Obama to help restore stability and defend the government against ISIS (after he removed the bulk of US troops in 2010 and 2011). Trump removed 1000 troops from Syria and you spent the next several weeks shitting little rings around yourself. He hasn't removed troops from Iraq and now you're shitting little rings around yourself because he's chosen to defend them against aggression from a foreign state.
Separate and distinct from the question of whether or not the killing of Soleimani was the best military move at this point, you people are fucking insane, driven completely nuts by your hatred of Trump.
He recalled the troops from Syria not to actually being our troops home. He subsequently rented about 3,000 of them out to the Saudis a day later. You can draw your own conclusions about how much Russia benefitted from those troop withdrawals.
And he didnt just "not remove" troops from Iraq. He send 750 MORE over there after the embassy mess and will no doubt have to deploy even more after this assassination.
If you say you want to recall troops then dont keep sending MORE troops over there.
If you say you want to deescalate things then dont assassinate one of the top military leaders of a batshit crazy hostile country.
How is this complicated?
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Read some interesting theorizing by an American who lives in Europe, who wondered if someone inside Iran wanted Soleimani gone, by sending him out of home territory where he would be untouchable, onto foreign soil. In some Iranian rival's eyes, would that make it easier for things like removing sanctions, getting rid of the gung-ho guy who was known for killing? Noted that it would have been easy for us to get the message to Soleimani to take the next plane home, where he would be untouchable, unlike being on foreign soil in Iraq.
But the bait offered to Trump was too tempting not to take, as those back in Iran would have known it would be.
But the bait offered to Trump was too tempting not to take, as those back in Iran would have known it would be.
Don't inject Lysol.
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A. We all agree he was a world class scumbag and that none except his mother will cry over his death. It doesnt change the consequences of what we did. I hope it doesnt result in the deaths of many more US soldiers but I have concerns that it will.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:11 amA. read the Twitter thread abovetwocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:05 amSorry, I meant Iraqi. Or Syrian. Or....
You can pretty much throw a dart at a map of the Middle East and it's likely that or decades of war over there have created in the killing of soldiers and civilians from that country.
That's the damn point. They think WE are the terrorists and by our definition of it, they have a valid argument.
B. There is a reason we don't publicize American presidents' travels to war zones
B. No shit. But again, spraying a hornet's nest because one stung you has consequences, even if the hornet "deserved it".
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Why would he be untouchable on Iranian soil? We have admitted to targeting him and killing him. I doubt the Iranians are thinking "well, we're OK with this since it didnt happen in Iran".seahawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:24 am Read some interesting theorizing by an American who lives in Europe, who wondered if someone inside Iran wanted Soleimani gone, by sending him out of home territory where he would be untouchable, onto foreign soil. In some Iranian rival's eyes, would that make it easier for things like removing sanctions, getting rid of the gung-ho guy who was known for killing? Noted that it would have been easy for us to get the message to Soleimani to take the next plane home, where he would be untouchable, unlike being on foreign soil in Iraq.
But the bait offered to Trump was too tempting not to take, as those back in Iran would have known it would be.
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Yes. And not spraying it has consequences as well.
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I think you are missing the point here. That was before the election was in play.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:25 am Didnt we leave our allies to die in Syria because we wanted to get out of this whole mess and get our troops home and weren't GOP voters in full support of that?
So now GOP voters are in full support of assassinating an Iranian official while killing 6 others as collateral damage in likely violation of international human rights laws while sending thousands of additional US troops to the region?!? What in the actual fuck?
Now let's pardon some more convicted war criminals and get them out there on the rally circuit and toss some red meat to the rabid trumpublicans!
tiny's ego needs servicing!
DC can't do this all by his lonesome.
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