Down Ballot: Who You Got?

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Feral wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:27 pm Yea! Less potential for embarrassment for our state:

You sure he isn't working to get on the ticket with Trump in the fall?
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seahawk wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:37 pm
Feral wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:27 pm Yea! Less potential for embarrassment for our state:

You sure he isn't working to get on the ticket with Trump in the fall?
I hadn't considered that, but now that he's becoming known as a habitual liar, too, it seems like a marriage made in evangelical "Christian" heaven.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/entertai ... index.html


Not sure where to put this. But this is certainly what we need.....
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TDub wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:34 am https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/entertai ... index.html


Not sure where to put this. But this is certainly what we need.....
Haha....she's a national treasure. Okuurt?
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idiocracy was foreshadowing
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"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion. The fact Biden is running for president doesn't mean he can't be investigated by anyone. Now, whether the suspicion is justified I honestly have no idea. I have my doubts, like with almost everything that Trump does.
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion. The fact Biden is running for president doesn't mean he can't be investigated by anyone. Now, whether the suspicion is justified I honestly have no idea. I have my doubts, like with almost everything that Trump does.
Just curious, does withholding U.S. taxpayer's money in the form of aid appropriated by congress to pressure, i.e., extort*, the leader of "another country", figure into your opinion? Or does the fact that Trump was using our tax dollars for his own personal benefit, and not for America's benefit, not matter?

*Extort: obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means:
force, obtain by force, obtain by threat(s), blackmail someone for, extract, exact, coerce, wring, wrest, screw, squeeze, milk, worm something out of someone; North American & Australian informal put the bite on someone for
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Damn feral, you’re really putting the bite on illy for this one!

And illy, once you’re done answering homegirl, would you mind offering a response to the question of precedent?

That is, if Trump’s actions regarding the Ukraine are tolerated, what precedent does that set for foreign policy? What if other countries start thinking their aid is contingent upon a favor? or, that a favor might even gain them aid they otherwise weren’t expecting, or that congress didn’t approve?
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion. The fact Biden is running for president doesn't mean he can't be investigated by anyone. Now, whether the suspicion is justified I honestly have no idea. I have my doubts, like with almost everything that Trump does.
Stop asking questions and just accept that President Trump is evil, that everything he does is nefarious and malicious, destructive and underhanded. You know, become a Democrat.
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Do you think that was an appropriate action by the President?
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion.
No, it isn't.
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HouseDivided wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:01 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion. The fact Biden is running for president doesn't mean he can't be investigated by anyone. Now, whether the suspicion is justified I honestly have no idea. I have my doubts, like with almost everything that Trump does.
Stop asking questions and just accept that President Trump is evil, that everything he does is nefarious and malicious, destructive and underhanded.
Not bad advice.
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jeepinjayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:47 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion.
No, it isn't.
We don't ever work together or share info with other countries to investigate individuals? I find that hard to believe.
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Feral wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:43 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion. The fact Biden is running for president doesn't mean he can't be investigated by anyone. Now, whether the suspicion is justified I honestly have no idea. I have my doubts, like with almost everything that Trump does.
Just curious, does withholding U.S. taxpayer's money in the form of aid appropriated by congress to pressure, i.e., extort*, the leader of "another country", figure into your opinion? Or does the fact that Trump was using our tax dollars for his own personal benefit, and not for America's benefit, not matter?

*Extort: obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means:
force, obtain by force, obtain by threat(s), blackmail someone for, extract, exact, coerce, wring, wrest, screw, squeeze, milk, worm something out of someone; North American & Australian informal put the bite on someone for
Just curious, didn't we release the funds to them? Because it sure doesn't seem like we extorted them for information if we didn't get any information from them and they still got their aid...
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The whistleblower story went public, then Ukraine got their money.
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Wow, the information about Parnas and the information he's shared about Yovanovitch. Remember what she testified in the hearings? No wonder they don't want her as a witness.

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What they did to her -- the "freelance" stalking -- is fucking creepy as hell.
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:07 am
Feral wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:43 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 am It's OK to ask a leader from another country to help investigate a politician as long as there is reasonable suspicion. The fact Biden is running for president doesn't mean he can't be investigated by anyone. Now, whether the suspicion is justified I honestly have no idea. I have my doubts, like with almost everything that Trump does.
Just curious, does withholding U.S. taxpayer's money in the form of aid appropriated by congress to pressure, i.e., extort*, the leader of "another country", figure into your opinion? Or does the fact that Trump was using our tax dollars for his own personal benefit, and not for America's benefit, not matter?

*Extort: obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means:
force, obtain by force, obtain by threat(s), blackmail someone for, extract, exact, coerce, wring, wrest, screw, squeeze, milk, worm something out of someone; North American & Australian informal put the bite on someone for
Just curious, didn't we release the funds to them? Because it sure doesn't seem like we extorted them for information if we didn't get any information from them and they still got their aid...
And this is why Trump will get re-elected.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:05 am What they did to her -- the "freelance" stalking -- is fucking creepy as hell.
Is it possible that "creepy as hell" is an understatement?

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