who ya got?

[Shirley]

[Shirley]

Yang was impressive on Real Time last night:

[Deleted User 62]

Yang was impressive on Real Time last night:

I watched it. He was indeed.
He would make a good VP for someone

[DCHawk1]

Biden-Sinema.

Book it.

[Mjl]

Biden-Sinema.

Book it.

Seems like the same mistake that Democrats regularly make.

[HouseDivided]

Yang was impressive on Real Time last night:

I watched it. He was indeed.
He would make a good VP for someone

As always, my first question is who will be financing this grand gesture of largesse.

[Mjl]

Yang was impressive on Real Time last night:

I watched it. He was indeed.
He would make a good VP for someone

As always, my first question is who will be financing this grand gesture of largesse.

Value Added Tax and welfare reduction.

[TDub]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

[Mjl]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

It doesn't involve drug testing of recipients - it involves a choice between welfare and the UBI.

[seahawk]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

Why exactly would you want drug testing of welfare recipients?

[chiknbut]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

Why exactly would you want drug testing of welfare recipients?

Drug testing has, at times, been required of welfare recipients. And I believe it's showed that the vast majority are not drug users.

But that's the stigma associated with the poor - they're lazy and all they do is drink and do drugs. From my understanding the majority of people who receive public assistance are between jobs.

[Mjl]

And it ends up costing more

[Deleted User 62]

Yang was impressive on Real Time last night:

I watched it. He was indeed.
He would make a good VP for someone

As always, my first question is who will be financing this grand gesture of largesse.

We could use some of the money that we pay farmers not to farm.

We could stop occupying every country that doesn't do what we told them to do.

I would imagine that 3-400 golfs trips removed could pay for a lot.

[HouseDivided]

I watched it. He was indeed.
He would make a good VP for someone

As always, my first question is who will be financing this grand gesture of largesse.

We could use some of the money that we pay farmers not to farm.

We could stop occupying every country that doesn't do what we told them to do.

I would imagine that 3-400 golfs trips removed could pay for a lot.

We could use some of the money that we pay farmers not to farm.

Maybe. But then your food prices would skyrocket as family farms shut down and availability drops off.

We could stop occupying every country that doesn't do what we told them to do.
No argument there. Would love to see this.

I would imagine that 3-400 golfs trips removed could pay for a lot.
I agree that the trips are excessive and wasteful. Wouldn't make a dent in the overall expense, but I agree with the point.

[seahawk]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

Why exactly would you want drug testing of welfare recipients?

Drug testing has, at times, been required of welfare recipients. And I believe it's showed that the vast majority are not drug users.

But that's the stigma associated with the poor - they're lazy and all they do is drink and do drugs. From my understanding the majority of people who receive public assistance are between jobs.

I asked because I believe that Rick Scott tried it in Florida. Turned out that there was less drug use among welfare recipients than the general population, and that has been true in other states.

[TDub]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

Why exactly would you want drug testing of welfare recipients?

Because i am all for my tax dosrs going to someone truly in need. I do not want my tax dollars going to support a habit. And yes i know not all welfsre recipients are drug users, i never said that they were. Some are, i know of some that are. I dont think that staying clean is too stringent of a requirement for recieving state provided income.

[HouseDivided]

Welfare reduction, and incuding mandatory drug testing for recipients seems like a good idea. It also seems like the opposite directions most democrats are heading. Havent seen this idea promoted by anyone. Had it been?

Why exactly would you want drug testing of welfare recipients?

Because i am all for my tax dosrs going to someone truly in need. I do not want my tax dollars going to support a habit. And yes i know not all welfsre recipients are drug users, i never said that they were. Some are, i know of some that are. I dont think that staying clean is too stringent of a requirement for recieving state provided income.

Racist!

[TDub]

Stupid phone. Ignore the typos.

[ousdahl]

I think we've been over this, but - what about the constitutional issue? That is, what about the fact a drug test constitutes an unreasonable search of a person? It's effectively treating welfare recipients like criminals.

And what constitutes "welfare," anyway? Do you test only the folks on food stamps? What about rich folks with their tax breaks -- you think Japhy is gonna be cool with pissing in a cup as a prerequisite to his servicing? You think those types aren't even more stoned than the poor folks?

Heck, if you really wanna crack down on welfare queens, how about corporate handouts? Should we start drug testing business executives and boards of directors?

Or how about foreign aid? Should we start withholding that much unless the leadership of other countries submits to urine analysis?

and, as has been mentioned, what to make of the fact that drug tests are often unnecessarily expensive and not cost-effective?

[Deleted User 89]

reducing social services like welfare is just plain dumb

what should happen is those in need of such assistance should be helped so that they get to the point where the service/s isn’t needed anymore

reduce the demand...don’t cut the supply