Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response

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HouseDivided wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:15 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:10 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 pm The ACA certainly can't compare with the Trump/republican repeal and replace plan, that covers everyone, is cheaper, and provides better care.
Nobody knows as much about healthcare
Healthcare professionals are for anything that guarantees them payment - even if it is at the expense of the taxpayer. Not sure that is expertise so much as self-interest.
Stop projecting, Psych.

Not everyone has a gaping maw where their soul should be, just because you do.
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HouseDivided wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:15 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:10 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 pm The ACA certainly can't compare with the Trump/republican repeal and replace plan, that covers everyone, is cheaper, and provides better care.
Nobody knows as much about healthcare
Healthcare professionals are for anything that guarantees them payment - even if it is at the expense of the taxpayer. Not sure that is expertise so much as self-interest.
"Nobody Knows as Much About Healthcare as Me".

Just....let that fester. Maybe 5 minutes.
Let's see if your response could be more tuned to what my post was.


.........probably not I guess
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:27 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 pm The ACA certainly can't compare with the Trump/republican repeal and replace plan, that covers everyone, is cheaper, and provides better care.
Hey, I broke the system. So you fix it!

pArtY oF PERSONaL responsiBiLiTY!
Right, the system was great before.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:27 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 pm The ACA certainly can't compare with the Trump/republican repeal and replace plan, that covers everyone, is cheaper, and provides better care.
Hey, I broke the system. So you fix it!

pArtY oF PERSONaL responsiBiLiTY!
Maybe take a breath?
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jeepinjayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:45 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:15 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:10 pm

Nobody knows as much about healthcare
Healthcare professionals are for anything that guarantees them payment - even if it is at the expense of the taxpayer. Not sure that is expertise so much as self-interest.
"Nobody Knows as Much About Healthcare as Me".

Just....let that fester. Maybe 5 minutes.
Let's see if your response could be more tuned to what my post was.


.........probably not I guess
Nope. Drawing a blank. Can’t crack your cryptic code.
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See if this helps....


And yes, that IS indeed Captain Orange screeching his credentials.

And the slack-jawed bumpkins hang on every single word.
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jeepinjayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:48 pm See if this helps....


And yes, that IS indeed Captain Orange screeching his credentials.

And the slack-jawed bumpkins hang on every single word.
Oh, I see. He says dumb stuff. Thanks. Didn’t realize until now.
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Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:24 pm Republicans learned nothing from their "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" moment during hurricane Katrina, but this time they're gambling with the health of millions of Americans should this or the next infectious disease epidemic be particularly virulent.

The fact that it might not happen is hardly an excuse for being totally unprepared.
Seems that Trump's cuts to CDC that no doubt pay for that storm unresistant wall to protect us from viruses have also affected state and local health departments and their ability to be of assistance in case of an epidemic.

At CDC, a reduction of that magnitude equates to a $750 million spending cut over fiscal year 2019. APHA member John Auerbach, MBA, president and CEO of Trust for America’s Health, said the proposed CDC cuts not only threaten federal public health capacity, they would have a “devastating” impact on state and local public health departments, which depend heavily on CDC dollars flowing down to the community level.

http://thenationshealth.aphapublication ... t/49/3/1.2
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Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:06 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:27 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 pm The ACA certainly can't compare with the Trump/republican repeal and replace plan, that covers everyone, is cheaper, and provides better care.
Hey, I broke the system. So you fix it!

pArtY oF PERSONaL responsiBiLiTY!
Maybe take a breath?
Says the poster blaming a fat old man for everything that ever happened or will ever happen.

Got it.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:58 am
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:06 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:27 pm

Hey, I broke the system. So you fix it!

pArtY oF PERSONaL responsiBiLiTY!
Maybe take a breath?
Says the poster blaming a fat old man for everything that ever happened or will ever happen.

Got it.
If it hurts your feelings so much to see Donald Trump criticized, maybe you're in the wrong forum?
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Mjl wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:04 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:27 pm
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 pm The ACA certainly can't compare with the Trump/republican repeal and replace plan, that covers everyone, is cheaper, and provides better care.
Hey, I broke the system. So you fix it!

pArtY oF PERSONaL responsiBiLiTY!
Right, the system was great before.
I paid $800/month for two separate policies. $400 for one for the rest of the family; and $400 for me -- the high-risk policy, given my pre-existing condition (coverage for which was, in fact, guaranteed in 36 states). $1000 deductible per person or $3000 for the family.

Today, a single ACA policy for all of us would cost in the neighborhood of $2500/month, with a minimum $5000 family deductible.

To avoid that, my wife went back to work, where she could get health coverage. Her share (after the employer pays most of it, natch) is $735/month -- so only $65/month less than it cost us to have TWO plans in 2012.


The first "A" in the "ACA" was...ummm...a lie.
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Feral wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:04 am
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:58 am
Feral wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:06 pm

Maybe take a breath?
Says the poster blaming a fat old man for everything that ever happened or will ever happen.

Got it.
If it hurts your feelings so much to see Donald Trump criticized, maybe you're in the wrong forum?
I'm not worried about him.

I'm worried about you.
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#compassionateconservatism
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Feral wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:12 am #compassionateconservatism
#stoopidfuckingprogressivism


z'at how this works?
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DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:06 am
I paid $800/month for two separate policies. $400 for one for the rest of the family; and $400 for me -- the high-risk policy, given my pre-existing condition (coverage for which was, in fact, guaranteed in 36 states). $1000 deductible per person or $3000 for the family.

Today, a single ACA policy for all of us would cost in the neighborhood of $2500/month, with a minimum $5000 family deductible.

To avoid that, my wife went back to work, where she could get health coverage. Her share (after the employer pays most of it, natch) is $735/month -- so only $65/month less than it cost us to have TWO plans in 2012.


The first "A" in the "ACA" was...ummm...a lie.
Plural of anecdote is not data. I’m sure the millions of people who now have insurance under the ACA are clamoring to give it up, so much so that the party who wanted to repeal it got major electoral gains in 2018 practically begging for repeal.

By your metric the tax act of 2018 has been an unmitigated disaster because my tax liability actually went up. I’m sure you’re working hard for it’s repeal
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No. Your tax liability going up was a feature not a bug.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:14 pm Fucking ACA is/was a disaster.

Just as designed.
Pence seemed to like it. At least in this clip.
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I forgot to close my garage door last night. I blame Trump.
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