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Jamie Dixon turning down UCLA is a head scratcher.
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I thought leaving Pitt for TCU was a head scratcher. Guy just wants to coach at the alma mater I guess. You've got guys like Dixon turning down better jobs to coach at his school, all while Self is turning down blank checks to not go back to his school.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:25 am Jamie Dixon turning down UCLA is a head scratcher.
Well wasn't he going to get taxed on his buyout? $9M payout, which was $4M in taxes. UCLA can blame California laws for that.
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NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:29 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:25 am Jamie Dixon turning down UCLA is a head scratcher.
Well wasn't he going to get taxed on his buyout? $9M payout, which was $4M in taxes. UCLA can blame California laws for that.
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Buyout goes to the school.
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I think California laws say differently. They treat that as a gift to individual. That's what made the talks stop. IIRC
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If Dixon was going to get any kind of package from TCU on departure, it would be setoff by his higher salary at UCLA. Would that be subject to Cali state taxes instead of Texas state taxes? I honestly don't know, but it would be a little surprising given contract is based in Texas.

Not to mention, I can't imagine state taxes on $9M being $4M. Probably closer to $1M.
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https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/2019/ ... with-team/

The latest LA Times report indicated that despite the comments from TCU officials, UCLA remained optimistic through the day of the NCAA national championship game that a resolution could be reached regarding the estimated $9 million buyout on Dixon's TCU contract -- something that had surfaced as stumbling block days prior as TCU wouldn't budge on lowering the amount.

Dixon, who was first reported on April 1 as a leading candidate for the UCLA vacancy along with then Cincinnati head coach Mick Cronin, was said to have "deeply wanted" the job and also remained hopeful that his hefty buyout wouldn't be too much to overcome. But negotiations reportedly came to a close for good on April 8 when a California provision that taxes buyouts as a gift -- in this case $4 million in taxes for Dixon, even with a restructured contract, according to the LA Times -- was brought to the table.
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NDballer13 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:28 am I thought leaving Pitt for TCU was a head scratcher. Guy just wants to coach at the alma mater I guess. You've got guys like Dixon turning down better jobs to coach at his school, all while Self is turning down blank checks to not go back to his school.
I think it's Alma Mater + he saw a tough job in Westwood.

The difference between he and Shaka turning it down: Dixon is a good coach and would have had UCLA fighting.

I guess at some point you just want to do what is comfortable, but from outside looking in: TCU vs. UCLA, Ft. Worth vs. LA, I mean, no question which one I'd sign up for.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:33 am If Dixon was going to get any kind of package from TCU on departure, it would be setoff by his higher salary at UCLA. Would that be subject to Cali state taxes instead of Texas state taxes? I honestly don't know, but it would be a little surprising given contract is based in Texas.

Not to mention, I can't imagine state taxes on $9M being $4M. Probably closer to $1M.
I am glad I'm not a UCLA fan. Everything is in place to have a ridiculously great, comprehensive athletics program...and all it costs is money...and they won't spend it.

A lot of that is not UCLA's fault per se, but the UC system's distaste for disproportionate spending at one place versus another. But, god, at some level a rising tide raises all ships.
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NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:35 am https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/2019/ ... with-team/

The latest LA Times report indicated that despite the comments from TCU officials, UCLA remained optimistic through the day of the NCAA national championship game that a resolution could be reached regarding the estimated $9 million buyout on Dixon's TCU contract -- something that had surfaced as stumbling block days prior as TCU wouldn't budge on lowering the amount.

Dixon, who was first reported on April 1 as a leading candidate for the UCLA vacancy along with then Cincinnati head coach Mick Cronin, was said to have "deeply wanted" the job and also remained hopeful that his hefty buyout wouldn't be too much to overcome. But negotiations reportedly came to a close for good on April 8 when a California provision that taxes buyouts as a gift -- in this case $4 million in taxes for Dixon, even with a restructured contract, according to the LA Times -- was brought to the table.
Probably written by a Texas Republican. ;)
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jfish26 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:37 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:33 am If Dixon was going to get any kind of package from TCU on departure, it would be setoff by his higher salary at UCLA. Would that be subject to Cali state taxes instead of Texas state taxes? I honestly don't know, but it would be a little surprising given contract is based in Texas.

Not to mention, I can't imagine state taxes on $9M being $4M. Probably closer to $1M.
I am glad I'm not a UCLA fan. Everything is in place to have a ridiculously great, comprehensive athletics program...and all it costs is money...and they won't spend it.

A lot of that is not UCLA's fault per se, but the UC system's distaste for disproportionate spending at one place versus another. But, god, at some level a rising tide raises all ships.
I can imagine that this is very true.

And, you're right, sure hoops and football is a different beast, but keep pumping money into baseball and all the olympic sports in the rest of the state.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:40 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:37 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:33 am If Dixon was going to get any kind of package from TCU on departure, it would be setoff by his higher salary at UCLA. Would that be subject to Cali state taxes instead of Texas state taxes? I honestly don't know, but it would be a little surprising given contract is based in Texas.

Not to mention, I can't imagine state taxes on $9M being $4M. Probably closer to $1M.
I am glad I'm not a UCLA fan. Everything is in place to have a ridiculously great, comprehensive athletics program...and all it costs is money...and they won't spend it.

A lot of that is not UCLA's fault per se, but the UC system's distaste for disproportionate spending at one place versus another. But, god, at some level a rising tide raises all ships.
I can imagine that this is very true.

And, you're right, sure hoops and football is a different beast, but keep pumping money into baseball and all the olympic sports in the rest of the state.
The most acute issue is that UC Berkeley athletics is pretty much flat broke, and they want to be at the front of the line for a new/redone football stadium. Each of Berkeley and LA considers itself the flagship of the system, and so this standoff has essentially frozen everything. So even if, say, Russell Westbrook or someone wanted to build something on Pauley that would essentially fund a coach splash...it wouldn't make it through the regents.
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pdub wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:57 am http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology

Midwest
5 B12 teams in.

16 Murray St

8 Wiscy
9 Arkansas

5 Penn St
4 Nova
3 Michigan State
2 Ville
Villanova is a tough 4 seed.

But this year the difference between a 2 and a 4 is pretty slim.
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Yeah. There's 3 really good teams (Kansas, Duke, Baylor) and then 4-16 is all about the same. All the same teams and talent level.
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NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:24 am Yeah. There's 3 really good teams (Kansas, Duke, Baylor) and then 4-16 is all about the same. All the same teams and talent level.
Gonzaga might be more like 1-3 than 4-16...but we don't know cause they play in a joke of a conference.
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I think you have to factor the Zags as one of those really good teams.
If 4-16 is the same, I sure wouldn't want my 3 or 4 to be the Zags.
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Eh, their conference stinks. And the major games they've played they are a bit above average.

I'm looking at their NCAA tournament record more in depth. I just don't think their conference gets them ready for NCAA tournament play. They've been above a 8 seed 14 times I think, been to 1 Final 4. And been to the 2nd weekend just 7 times being a top 32 seed. That's not good.
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Probably will be SDSU’s 2 seed.
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I don't know if there's anyway NCAA will make San Diego State and Gonzaga as the 1-2 in the same bracket. I don't think they want it because

1. TV ratings
2. Want the big dogs to make it out of each bracket. Don't want a mid-major to make it that far and putting them both in the same bracket increases that chance.
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I don’t know, it just seems the easiest way to settle it. They’re not both 1 seeds. Give them the strongest 3.

West has lowest ratings anyway.
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